@Matt504 wants to explain why he wants Black people to be sterilized

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Meh...

You have a somewhat valid point here..
You can make legit points in shytty ways

This forum is def anti self accountability.... everyone else has to HYON but when it comes to brehs' fukk ups they are everyone else's fault

Thats no excuse for invoking eugenics to make a point though
 

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The "Overpopulation" myth has debunked many times over.

The west over consumes. It is not overpopulated.

If you have a group of 8 people sharing a pizza, and 1 greedy fukk takes 6 slices, that does not mean there are too many people in the group.

It means 1 person is eating too damn much
Right...you're still left with a lot of people, too little food, and zero recourse (greedy fukk has no intentions on sharing, and you have no power to change it.)

Wouldn't be an issue if the size of that group was only three people, leaving two people with a slice each, would it? :sas2:
 

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I see your point about the bolded....but sterilizing people who can't afford children is some bullshyt....you need to allow people to either sink or swim when it comes to that....thats the way it's always been....sterilizing won't solve any issues...

I mean in the posed theoretical it would minimize the amount of people raised in outright SHYT situations and that would have considerable positive affects in minority communities.

There is no neat solution to this. Yes current children take a L. Hopefully the next generation adapts to the environment. If a parent abandons the child take them and put them in a state run boarding school like the one in India for the untouchables. Garner both parents wages for upkeep of the school. Like child support to the government.

The issue with this is historically that L becomes everyone problem when the children grow and decide to rob/steal from/abuse/kill me or mine (or anyone really) out of spite or as a derivative of not knowing better

Having children and creating life is an inalienable human right and the driving force behind all living organisms. Consequently, eugenics are one of the most serious violation of human rights possible.

While I disagree, I appreciate your logical and concise, nonemotional response. Repped.

I will say this... if you are a pedo, child abuser, heavy drug abuser, rapist...then yeah you probably shouldn’t bring kids into this world. Especially if you are pedo...you should have your genitals removed with a rusty knife. But sterilization because of income is insane

It's not just income, but moreso all the characteristics/that people with low income tend to have that yields a low success rate in terms of children making it to the middle class. My parents are an extreme exception to the rule, they raised me and brother on roughly 30K yearly between the two of them in San Diego. But they were highly educated therefore knew how to stretch money/save/invest. My older breh now has his own business and is 6 figs (no certs, and he's 5'11, sorry) but he graduated with no debt either/didn't take loans. I'm on the path for the same sans running a business as I don't have the make-up for it character wise.

I agree. Talking about responsibility gets people pissed off..

No kidding IRL or online, whenever I use accountability the averse reactions are pronounced
 
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Right...you're still left with a lot of people, too little food, and zero recourse (greedy fukk has no intentions on sharing, and you have no power to change it.)

Wouldn't be an issue if the size of that group was only three people, leaving two people with a slice each, would it? :sas2:

So you somehow got the power to enforce eugenics laws on the majority of the human population, but somehow preventing the wealthy from hoarding all the wealth is a bridge too far...

:mjlol:
 

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So you somehow got the power to enforce eugenics laws on the majority of the human population
Literally no one here is in support of, or advocating for eugenics. Just a limit on offspring, similar to the China one child policy but with a higher cap :pachaha:

somehow preventing the wealthy from hoarding all the wealth is a bridge too far...
In America, it may as well be.
 
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Literally no one here is in support of, or advocating for eugenics. Just a limit on offspring, similar to the China one child policy but with a higher cap :pachaha:


In America, it may as well be.


Controlling a person's right to have children based on income is eugenics.

you can call it whatever you want if it helps you sleep at night.

:yeshrug:
 

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Not even worth entertaining a back and forth with Matt about this issue. It legitimizes his position just by entertaining it.

I’m personally of the belief that people who spout eugenicist arguments should be euthanized so we can move on the work of building a better society; a better society being based around being less judgmental and more empathetic.

If you want to dream of magical solutions to systemic problems I’d start with taking out the nazis.
 
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Being someone born in NC where the legislature had to be dragged by the knuckles to compensate women who were sterilized against their will as late as the 70s, when I was born, gives me an extreme amount of pause. They didn't take the last involuntary sterilization law off the books until 2003. Not 1903. Not 1953. Not 1983. 2003. This century.

NC DOA : Welcome to the Office of Justice for Sterilization Victims
 
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