Max Kellerman: "LeBron created a Superteam with Miami. KD just raised him one"

[Biscayne]

He averaged 29, 10, 7, 2 steals in 47% shooting in 2012

He averaged 29.7 points in 2016 a negligible difference

Which is close to what Curry produced in last year's finals.


Compare putting up 28, 8 and 9 on 40% 3 point shooting to Wade scoring 19-5-4 brehs


Hell Kyrie averaged 29 in last year's finals and 27 before that. But DWade and Bosh struggle 20's was saving LeBron






Now that that's over, tell us why Durant couldn't win with 2 all stars and a 3 time defensive e first teamer in Ibaka.


Why couldn't Durant put his team over the jump when Russ outplayed Wade and Body was hobbled in 2012

All you're pointing out is that Curry also averaged more points per game in last year's finals than any of LeBrons 4yrs in Miami. You're proving my point. KD's fit within Golden States system was so much more seemless than the Big3. Thus neither KD nor Steph had to sacrifice much in the way of individual stats and production. The ONE year we saw Wade be allowed control of the offense and play to the level of prime Wade, we saw LeBron individual numbers suffer and we saw how bewildered he was with playing off the ball and not being able to control fee offense, and thus changes were made to the system. Wade's "struggle 20's" after 2011 is what made the system work and is what propelled LeBron to where he is. Wade 2yrs after 2014 and 2yrs older was averaging another "struggle 20" on the 2016 Heat and led them within one game of the ECF. Yet I'm to believe the reason why his individual stats dipped in 2012, was because he was too old? He had 40 against the pacers that year in the playoffs. Plus his defense and the collective defense of Miami on James Harden is a huge part of why Miami won in 2012. I don't know if you forgot, but Harden stuggled off the bench in those finals..

On the flipside, why did the thunder get progressively worse even with two all stars playing alongside KD?



"This offensive gap is a bit misleading, however, and his absence shouldn’t derail a championship run by Golden State, though it does make it much more difficult."

KD even before winning his ring in golden state was always regarded as the heir apparent to LeBron. While curry's game is the cog that makes the Golden State offense work, KD is the best individual player on the team and his presence took GS to that unbeatable level. Y'all said it yourselves, he joined the team he was up 3-1 on. And that team in turn got beat by cleveland. If they were so beatable and all it took was a career playoff run from Kylie and LeBron to bear them, than why should KD's value to GS be diminished?



He was a game away from beating that 73-9 team, he joins them and then beats the same Cavs ream that beat GS the year prior. No harm no foul.



You keep comparing Wade's production and stats to Curry's, but have yet to compare 2017 Finals MVP Kevin Durant production and stats to LeBrons production and stats in his 4 finals appearances in Miami. Why is that?



We gonna act like Miami didn't need Wade's struggle 20. Or his struggle 40 Against Indy. Or his struggle 30 against SA in game 4.

Both teams were superteams. KD just did it with a team that was the perfect fit for what they needed.



Golden State is a Super-er team if that's what you whiners/bron stans wanna hear.

 

[Osmosis]

If Miami was a super team than the 2008 Celtics and 2004 Lakers were as well.

 

[madness]

after MVP voting comes in, KD will have played with the last 3 NBA MVPs, along with a Defensive Player of the Year in his prime...yet nikkas wanna talk about Bron cheating

 

[G.O.A.T Squad Spokesman]

after MVP voting comes in, KD will have played with the last 3 NBA MVPs, along with a Defensive Player of the Year in his prime...yet nikkas wanna talk about Bron cheating

What does KD playing with Westbrook and Harden have to do with anything?

 

[Thegospel]

If Miami was a super team than the 2008 Celtics and 2004 Lakers were as well.

Celtics didn’t have 3 guys in their prime. Nether did LA

 

[Juven]

miami had rivals. they lost in 2011. spurs were going toe to toe with them in 2013 and beat the brakes off them in 2014.

GS since they got KD, as far as we've seen, really has no peers. they went like 16-2 in the playoffs last year? remains to be seen whether rockets will actually test them for real

The spurs were up like 20 points before Kawhi Leonard went down

 

[Leonard Washington]

Boston started it with their Big 3

 

[Gravity]

The analysis isn’t whether or not the team performed up to a certain standard. It’s the intent. That’s what you guys aren’t getting. Bron, just like KD, intended to stack the dack when he went to Miami, and did so in Cleveland as well. The intent was to play with 2 other all-stars and create more talented teams than the rest of the league. KD just outdid him, and Bron fans mad his window is closed. You’re basically more mad that GS is so good then you are at KD. I dont buy the “he left to go to a team that beat him” argument because 1) the thunder were not in some rivalry with GS, it was 1 fukking series ultimately and 2) none of you Bron Stan’s cared when Ray Allen jumped ship to Miami.

Im not “mad” at any of these people. You’re the feminine clown with your emotions into it. Your point of view is ultimately based on your fanboy love for kobe. You hate Lebron because he’s recognized as being better than kobe.

Just look at your argument dude. “This isn’t about what actually happened in the court, this is about intent”. You sound like a bytch not a basketball fan. I’m not about to sit here and argue with you about “intent”. I talk facts as in what actually happened. The facts are that that heat team wasn’t a “superteam”. That team was heavily reliant on Lebron to play at an mvp level and at times he had to reach all time great levels just for them to get to the finals. Without Lebron that heat team wouldn’t have been a championship contender. GS went to back to back finals, got a ring and set the reg season wins record all without kd. That’s nowhere near the same as what Lebron did and it doesn’t matter who says it.

Hey, kd had every right to make the decision that he made. At the same time, people have every right to their opinions about his decision. Trying to defend his decision from people making valid criticisms of it by lying and hating on the next man is just sucker shyt. Every time you clowns try and defend kd’s decision Ima just kill you with his own admission.
Kevin Durant: I thought championship would fill void, but it didn’t

 

[NvrCMyNut]

One of the reasons I could never get behind Lebron is that the media has always tried to create his legacy, rather than reporting on him making his own like they do with all other sporting greats. The attempt in the last few years at rewriting history to make Lebron into an underdog is pathetic.

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

miami wasn't a superteam though they had 3 good players and the rest were old role players

Lol


Three top-5 lottery picks from the same draft (2003) whom were also in the top 4 in PER the previous season before joining up. (In their primes)





Wade and Lebron also led the league in PER in 2008, Bosh was 14th.





“Not a superteam”



Considering the trash ass eastern conference led by the al horford hawks and kyle lowry raptors, and by the standards of the 2010 NBA season, that was definitely a super team.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Im not “mad” at any of these people. You’re the feminine clown with your emotions into it. Your point of view is ultimately based on your fanboy love for kobe. You hate Lebron because he’s recognized as being better than kobe.

Just look at your argument dude. “This isn’t about what actually happened in the court, this is about intent”. You sound like a bytch not a basketball fan. I’m not about to sit here and argue with you about “intent”. I talk facts as in what actually happened. The facts are that that heat team wasn’t a “superteam”. That team was heavily reliant on Lebron to play at an mvp level and at times he had to reach all time great levels just for them to get to the finals. Without Lebron that heat team wouldn’t have been a championship contender. GS went to back to back finals, got a ring and set the reg season wins record all without kd. That’s nowhere near the same as what Lebron did and it doesn’t matter who says it.

Hey, kd had every right to make the decision that he made. At the same time, people have every right to their opinions about his decision. Trying to defend his decision from people making valid criticisms of it by lying and hating on the next man is just sucker shyt. Every time you clowns try and defend kd’s decision Ima just kill you with his own admission.
Kevin Durant: I thought championship would fill void, but it didn’t

You have the intellect of a child. you cant downplay intent when your entire argument is based on it. You’re upset KD intended to stack the deck, thus closing Bron window. You can’t say intent doesn’t matter, the entire country is ran off of the concept of content. Majority of felonies are based off “intent”.

 

[BiggWebb79]

You don't say "not 1, not 2, not 3....." for teams that aren't super teams

That was a prep rally, you do know what prep rallys are right.

 

[Loose]

If Miami was a super team than the 2008 Celtics and 2004 Lakers were as well.

I don't consider none of those superteams they were really great teams with a big 2 or 3. I always thought other teams had a chance against mia bos lakers etc. This warriors team? They should sweep the playoffs year in year out, salary wise no team can match up besides maybe bos considering rookie deals

 

[ELESDEE616]

All you're pointing out is that Curry also averaged more points per game in last year's finals than any of LeBrons 4yrs in Miami. You're proving my point. KD's fit within Golden States system was so much more seemless than the Big3. Thus neither KD nor Steph had to sacrifice much in the way of individual stats and production. The ONE year we saw Wade be allowed control of the offense and play to the level of prime Wade, we saw LeBron individual numbers suffer

KD's ppg are also down.


He went from 28 ppg with OKC to 25 ppg with GS

Lebron went from 29.7 to 26.7

You really don't think before you type do you.



Of course Durant fits more seemlessly in Golden Stats offense. He's a spot up jump shooter who doesn't create nor make his teammates better as to why he struggled when he played with 2 MVPs and a defensive allstar in OKC

In GS Curry and to a lesser extent Draymond is the guy who creates and runs the offense.

Durant gets to be the sidekick he always wanted to be.

Wades "struggle 20's" after 2011 is what made the system work and is what propelled LeBron to where he is.

You know what you are right, if it wasn't for LeBron trying to defer to Wade and Bosh in 2011 we wouldn't have the killer we have now

It was Wade's inability to close out the Mavs that gave us the GOAT

I concede that point


LeBron still carried them nikkas 2012-2014

2012 Eastern Conference Finals

LeBron James

33.6 ppg, 11 rpg, 4 apg

52.7% FG

Dwyane Wade

21.4 ppg, 6 rpg, 5 apg

44% FG

On flipside, why did the thunder get progressively worse even with two all stars playing alongside KD?

Progressively worse. They were 1 game away from the finals

3-1

ewas a game away from beating that 73-9 team, he joins them and then beats the same Cavs ream that beat GS the year prior. No harm no foul.

bytch nikka take. Real nikkas don't respect it.

oueep comparing Wade's production and stats to Curry's, but have yet to compare 2017 Finals MVP Kevin Durant production and stats to LeBrons production and stats in his 4 finals appearances in Miami. Why is that?

Because the difference in production between KD and LeBron isis neglib compared to Curry averaging a triple double and Wade averaging 19 ppg



You said it yourself Curry is the Cog that makes the Warriors go. Did Wade make the Heat go?

So exactly what is your argument?

e gonna act like Miami didn't need Wade's struggle 20. Or his struggle 40 Against Indy. Or his struggle 30 against SA in game 4.

The Heat needed every bit of Wades struggle points. Same way Durant needed to play with the 2 best shooters of all time to win a ring

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Durant is Bron's karma.Bron thought he created a cheat code, but only ended up cheating himself in the end.