Maybe I'm getting old but this NBA2K draft they just had is goofy as hell

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My only complaint is that they should've used their real names in the announcements, as that would've come off more professional on camera. Otherwise, they're getting paid for a skill that they won't have forever, so strike while the iron's hot :manny:
 

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Yo, esports can be so cheesy at times.

Imma keep working on street fighter though for when they really start giving out real salaries :wow:

That street fighter shyt is serious as hell. When the retro drops later this year, shyt gone be too real...
 

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But scouts and gm's evaluating video game players :dwillhuh: isn't that a little much?

Nah. 2K isn't "real basketball" and has loads of straight dumb Bullshyt but different skill sets / archetypes really matter. I play competively in my free time and there are levels to this shyt.

You got guys who are trash at the game but put up stupidly goof stats because they're good at abusing exploits but they get shown up when they play against people that know how to counter exploits. You got dudes that have great basketball IQ and can make a team better without needing lots of touches.

Some players need constant touches to get into rhythm, some players don't know how to properly shade in a zone defense, some players aren't great at communicating (Which is huge), some players aren't natural leaders, etc.

Sounds crazy but if you play pro-am consistently, you'll see that there are levels to this shyt.
 

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Nah. 2K isn't "real basketball" and has loads of straight dumb Bullshyt but different skill sets / archetypes really matter. I play competively in my free time and there are levels to this shyt.

You got guys who are trash at the game but put up stupidly goof stats because they're good at abusing exploits but they get shown up when they play against people that know how to counter exploits. You got dudes that have great basketball IQ and can make a team better without needing lots of touches.

Some players need constant touches to get into rhythm, some players don't know how to properly shade in a zone defense, some players aren't great at communicating (Which is huge), some players aren't natural leaders, etc.

Sounds crazy but if you play pro-am consistently, you'll see that there are levels to this shyt.
:gucci: So why you ain’t get drafted sir
 

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Youre not wrong but the fukk shyt about E-Sports is that the skill and difficulty level of E-sports is insultingly low compared to physical sports.

In Physical Sports, you are at odds with your own body, the physical layout of your arena, the literally billions of factors that make up your physical opponent, officiating, and not to mention having the physical and skill gifts to even be there among hundreds of other factors.

In E-Sports something like 90% of these factors dont change. Its just a matter of knowing how the AI and Physics Engines will behave and how to exploit those behaviors.

That's absolutely not true. Go watch competitive Starcraft, competitive Overwatch, competitive Siege, etc.

If I put you into a game with an pro DBZF player, you'd get turned into absolute Swiss cheese. Technical execution, frame knowledge, set ups, understanding the nuances of the game, etc.

We've seen guys like Daigo struggle as they get older, despite being revered as gods of their craft, because their bodies simply aren't as quick anymore.

The skill level is stupidly high in these games. Things average players don't even take into account or know about matter HUGE in truly competitive play.



This is stupidly hard to do. I can't even put it into words how quick he's moving and the decisions he's making while planning against another human opponent who has his own plans. There is nothing low-skill about this.

The average player maybe does 2-3 actions per minute. Championship players do up to high 200s or low 300s APM.

Believe me. In most e-sports, they're playing against other humans and not dealing with the AI at all
 

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:gucci: So why you ain’t get drafted sir

Same reason why a dude might be great at your high school but nothing when he jumps into bigger oceans and compared to other players. I'm a solid player but being a pro-level gamer is an entire lifestyle and these dudes are beyond good. You talking about the top 1% of players in the world.
 

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Same reason why a dude might be great at your high school but nothing when he jumps into bigger oceans and compared to other players. I'm a solid player but being a pro-level gamer is an entire lifestyle and these dudes are beyond good. You talking about the top 1% of players in the world.
Nah they most likely just use overpowered animations can’t no one convince me there’s anything simulation about 2k18.
 

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:mjlol: At nikkas acting like this shyt ain’t lame cause money is involved. OP is right, this shyt is extra as fukk. And I still cop 2k every year. But this some goofy ass shyt man, ain’t no way around it.

Side note, my homeboy works for the Hawks and he had got a job offer last year from the Orlando Magic for head of e sports or some shyt. He was like hell naw:mjlol:

He trying to be on some real gm shyt. But I was like low key that do seem like a fun ass job
 

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I dont think I'm too old for it, but I think its weird considering how many bugs 2K has and games in general have in them. Bugs that make yo want to slam ur controller sometimes.

That's different from being an athlete whos in control of yourself.

Not to mention ur playing on Internet connection which at any moment could slightly lag or drop.

I wouldn't want money on the line with all these issues.
 

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Nah they most likely just use overpowered animations can’t no one convince me there’s anything simulation about 2k18.

Nah, it's hard to cheese certain animations consistently on the high levels. The combine checked for that. Using overpowered snatch backs to whore out threes or shots was an easy way to get looked over. Those overpowered animations work in conjunction with hall of fame badges like limitless range/posterizer or cheese blow by animations.

It's nowhere near simulation. I don't actually think it's e-sports ready at all.
 
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