Mayweather Vs. Duran

[Julius Skrrvin]

Duran's skill level will master Floyd's defensive skill level?

I don't see it.

Yes. Duran was very skilled, not just offensively but defensively. Not only did he have great infighting skill, he excelled at the middle range and could box very very well. If you have any doubt, watch his 3rd fight with DeJesus or his Ernesto Marcel fight. Duran might have more trouble with a more mobile version of Floyd, like i said the lightweight version for example. The Welterweight version would get steamrolled for Duran. Duran would cut the ring on him and swarm him, you think that upperbody movement would hold up under the calculated assault Duran could lay down when he was on point? Dude also doesn't have the firepower to dissuade Duran either. Outboxers beat duran using a hit and run attack to frustrate, not countering out of a stable stance like Floyd typically does. Whitaker would beat Duran every time for example.


Ray Arcel praised him to no end, and the guy handled fighters like Ezzard Charles and Benny Leonard.

 

[Black_Jesus]

You're a retard. You clearly read Cotto's own words regarding matching up with Mayweather and you still post this.

I don't see why people respond to you. I just took an L for doing so.

“When you call yourself the best boxer in the world you have to fight with the best. There are other names at 147 pounds and if Mayweather does not have the courage to get in the ring to fight with me, my career has to continue. I won’t wait for him.” Cotto 08

And here's your L

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Duran of the DeJesus fight by a wide Decision, and Montreal Duran TKO's Floyd at 147.

Floyd has never fought any infighter with Duran's skill level, no one even close really. I like Floyd, and I think his combination of natural gifts and smarts would see him well against a lot of ATGs (he'd probably beat Arguello for example), but Duran is a bad style matchup for him especially at welterweight.

 

[NYC Rebel]

“When you call yourself the best boxer in the world you have to fight with the best. There are other names at 147 pounds and if Mayweather does not have the courage to get in the ring to fight with me, my career has to continue. I won’t wait for him.” Cotto 08

And here's your L

Then why was Arum on record the year prior saying he didn't want Cotto to fight Mayweather because he wasn't ready?

Why did Cotto recently say they never pursued a fight with May?

 

[Black_Jesus]

Then why was Arum on record the year prior saying he didn't want Cotto to fight Mayweather because he wasn't ready?

Why did Cotto recently say they never pursued a fight with May?

To answer your first question...They were referring to 2005 at 140...

2nd question...How could they persue a guy who has been crying(literally) retirement since the Baldomir post fight press conference...

But the real question you should be asking is WHY was Floyd not persuing that fight and WHY was he so hell bent on "retiring" at that point is career...

But you know we all know the answer to that

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

clowns with no arguments or knowledge to kick

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Then why was Arum on record the year prior saying he didn't want Cotto to fight Mayweather because he wasn't ready?

Why did Cotto recently say they never pursued a fight with May?

Fam stop. Leave that dude bee, he just doesn't get it. Save yourself, you already know what it is.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Fam stop. Leave that dude bee, he just doesn't get it. Save yourself, you already know what it is.

You cannot argue, debate, or reason with THE TRUTH...
So yea what ski hat says... save yourself

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

clowns with no arguments or knowledge to kick

There is nothing to argue about. No way that Duran can win a decision against Floyd at lightweight. He "might" be able to get a KO but Floyd chin is underrated so I doubt it.

Duran fought 9 times at welter and the only real fight he had was SRL so what work did he put in in welter that would make you think he could "realistically" KO Floyd?

 

[Skip b]

There is nothing to argue about. No way that Duran can win a decision against Floyd at lightweight. He "might" be able to get a KO but Floyd chin is underrated so I doubt it.

Duran fought 9 times at welter and the only real fight he had was SRL so what work did he put in in welter that would make you think he could "realistically" KO Floyd?

Underrated............Dude has 43 fights only been hurt bad twice and never touch the canvas , Floyd's chin is ATG

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Underrated............Dude has 43 fights only been hurt bad twice and never touch the canvas , Floyd's chin is ATG

I agree but nobody talks about it so thats why i consider it underrated.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

There is nothing to argue about. No way that Duran can win a decision against Floyd at lightweight. He "might" be able to get a KO but Floyd chin is underrated so I doubt it.

Duran fought 9 times at welter and the only real fight he had was SRL so what work did he put in in welter that would make you think he could "realistically" KO Floyd?

Whip Palomino, Cuevas, and Leonard who were all quality fighters.

Duran is the greatest lightweight of all time. You could make an argument for Benny Leonard or Joe Gans. If you were talking head to head I would say Sweet Pea might be the goat at that weight. I find it hilarious you're making the "who did duran fight at welter argument" when it is generally agreed that generation was the best WW gen since the 40-50s at the time. And Duran was very successful in it after having whipped a ton of lightweight champions and quite a few fights under his belt.

How many fights at lightweight did Floyd have? You need some perspective, you look like a stan.



EDIT: you might be right about Duran not being able to KO Floyd, but tbh I dont think Floyd has ever faced anyone with the offensive arsenal Duran has. it's not about "chin", its about overall damage received over a fight. I dont think Duran would Flash KO dude, but he could beat him down for a ten count.

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Whip Palomino, Cuevas, and Leonard who were all quality fighters.

Duran is the greatest lightweight of all time. You could make an argument for Benny Leonard or Joe Gans. If you were talking head to head I would say Sweet Pea might be the goat at that weight. I find it hilarious you're making the "who did duran fight at welter argument" when it is generally agreed that generation was the best WW gen since the 40-50s at the time. And Duran was very successful in it after having whipped a ton of lightweight champions and quite a few fights under his belt.

How many fights at lightweight did Floyd have? You need some perspective, you look like a stan.



EDIT: you might be right about Duran not being able to KO Floyd, but tbh I dont think Floyd has ever faced anyone with the offensive arsenal Duran has. it's not about "chin", its about overall damage received over a fight. I dont think Duran would Flash KO dude, but he could beat him down for a ten count.

Palimino was solid nothing spectacular though and Cueves fight was technically light middleweight, and dude was not on the level Palimino and certainly not on the level of Leonard.


Your right about Floyd at lightweight he didnt have a ton of fights either but
IMO Phillip Ndou is as good if not better than anyone on Duran's record at lightweight though. I think Floyds speed,reach,defence, ring generalshipand overall technical ability as well as him having solid to good power at lightweight, plus a great chin would carry Floyd past Duran. Ill tell you one thing it would be a better fight than if he fought Pac.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

nikka are you crying right now??

All I know for certain is that when the bytch went into retirement, it changed the coarse of history... Margs and Cotto wouldn't have happened.. and if Floyd was a true champ he would have fought the best in the division, who at the time would've been Cotto..

Let's everyone think for a moment.. If you are the p4p king and you have the #2 guy in your same division
both of you coming off nothing but wins.. You're already starting to look like a bytch from ducking 1 opponent who's calling you out for an 8 million dollar fight... But now you have the perfect opponent who's also in your division and undefeated.. How could you even allow him to fight anyone else??

You have Manny Pacquiao... the only other fighter you'll ever encounter that is just as big a cash cow as you, but you allow him to fight Clotty, Shane, Cement Gloves, Marquez(his toughest opponent) and Timothy Bradley?? How could you jeopardize the biggest fight this generation??

The answer is YOU ARE A bytch... SIMPLE

You say I have a vendetta?? No sir, just a good memory and I pay attention..

If Floyd doesnt retire he rematches dlh cuz it was a "mere split Decision " Cotto still fight Margarigo then so stfu

You are right about one thing Cottos people didnt do they job watching the hands bein wrapped....they are part to blame for the beating cotto took

 

[HARLEM AL]

Yes. Duran was very skilled, not just offensively but defensively. Not only did he have great infighting skill, he excelled at the middle range and could box very very well. If you have any doubt, watch his 3rd fight with DeJesus or his Ernesto Marcel fight. Duran might have more trouble with a more mobile version of Floyd, like i said the lightweight version for example. The Welterweight version would get steamrolled for Duran. Duran would cut the ring on him and swarm him, you think that upperbody movement would hold up under the calculated assault Duran could lay down when he was on point? Dude also doesn't have the firepower to dissuade Duran either. Outboxers beat duran using a hit and run attack to frustrate, not countering out of a stable stance like Floyd typically does. Whitaker would beat Duran every time for example.


Ray Arcel praised him to no end, and the guy handled fighters like Ezzard Charles and Benny Leonard.

Not even going to shyt on Duran but