MCHG had the biggest stage ever to deliver for hip-hop, and did not do so

[Harry B]

1. Well, I didn't realize that.

2. You dismiss his "drugs dealer music" but not his "I'm obsessed with money music"

3. I ain't mad at that nikka for being rich. Sure, I wish that wasn't one of his main rap topics but that's a criticism for all of rap. My main point is that one black individual having money does not equate to black wealth. That's all.

4. The promotional campaign, albeit different than what we've seen previously, was tremendous. You really going to pretend the Samsung deal wasn't monumental.

Come on, @Harry B, you know you a dikkriding stan that loves the attention.

I stan Jay, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less and sometimes I just try to have a real convo if the thread-starter seems like he's trying to say something real.
This time it was the latter. But obviously people like you, who I've never heard of will be on my dikk on some dikkrider bla bla bla.

When I say something "positive" about Jay, I'm a stan. But when I say something that's not positive it's nothing, sometimes I might even get called a stan for that.
Like when I called the album a 3.5 album but that the review was ass. I got called a stan by wack posters as yourself. So I might as well have fun with it and have cats like you and your coalition of dumb smart mishaps mad as fukk.

 

[CrimsonTider]

It did no favors for hip-hop, when it had the chance to kick down another big door.

Samsung/Jay took up a several minute advertisement during a great NBA Finals, which was probably watched by 20 million people or whatever. How many artists(I can't remember any) have taken up a spot of that magnitude on national TV to announce a new album??? This was a step below only the SuperBowl in terms of eyes watching.

HUGE stage, we're talking people who've never even heard of Jay-Z are being exposed to him at that moment, hearing/seeing him talk for the first time....other people who only know of his name from pop culture or that he's Bey's husband....other people who have a default disposition to thinking rap music is garbage. They're not gonna watch BET/MTV/VH1 channels to seek out Jay Z, they're being fed this right on their own time.

Then the name, Magna Carta Holy Grail.....that's a heavy name for an album. People are seeing this and expectations are growing.

We learn the album is going to be given away(initially) free via a smart phone app to a million ppl, which immediately opens up a MUCH larger audience of people who may never have previously purchased or sought after a Jay Z album. But since it's free they'll take it, and they want to see what the hype is all about. My cousin, I don't think has any Jay Z albums and she had it on her phone when I saw her on the 4th.

So the album drops, very lackluster(IMO), and that's not even saying it's not possible to live up to the hype....it's just not that good. And now ppl are like, "THIS is what the big deal was all about?! This is what ppl consider to the best?"

Thoughts???

There is no way an album with concepts like Oceans, Picasso,Heavens and Nickel and Dimes didnt deliver

These songs are lyrical masterpieces with concepts that very few artist are able to pull off effectively

This album is brilliant and the production, lyrics and content are some of the best of Jay z career.

If anything MCHG is what real hiphop heads want from a rap album.

One that can make you bob your head and in the next track make you think.

All with quality production

I always said placing the title of greatest ever on someone as shallow and vapid as Jay-Z does a great disservice to the culture...The pre-release hype over this dud is just another example of that.. Trayvon's killer is about to go free and the "biggest figure and living legend" is rapping about European art and Miley Cyrus twerking..Whenever I hear someone say Jay-Z is the greatest, I know they don't love hip hop and more than likely hate Black people...

If you think that song is about Miley Cyrus twerking then you aren't listening right

 

[Big Skilly Films]

I negged you because im a b1tch n1gga..

 

[Insensitive]

Criticism is fine but to go as far as implying
liking Jay-Z means you don't like Hip Hop
or black people is completely absurd bullshyt.

 

[T.he I.nformant]

I stan Jay, sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less and sometimes I just try to have a real convo if the thread-starter seems like he's trying to say something real.
This time it was the latter. But obviously people like you, who I've never heard of will be on my dikk on some dikkrider bla bla bla.

When I say something "positive" about Jay, I'm a stan. But when I say something that's not positive it's nothing, sometimes I might even get called a stan for that.
Like when I called the album a 3.5 album but that the review was ass. I got called a stan by wack posters as yourself. So I might as well have fun with it and have cats like you and your coalition of dumb smart mishaps mad as fukk.

The brehs call me T.I.P or T.I. for short. I don't want to hear you saying you never heard of me no more, now, ya hear?