Meet one of the biggest c00ns in history

[BlackMajik]

We literally came from Africa though.


It's where my ancestors came from and it wasn't that long ago, barely 4 centuries

That's...not what I was talking about

 

[Wiseborn]

Nigerians down bad for this. How you gonna celebrate a slave trader?

this is the reason Africa is fukked they failed to take accountability for their actions.

They owe us reparations too

 

[Bonk]

Economic system, far more nuanced than "yall" would think

Her story isn’t as nuanced as that. She was an Egba (Yoruba subgroup) socialite that was mostly a palm oil merchant. And at the time, there was a civil war amongst Yoruba subgroups due to the fight for supremacy after the fall of Oyo Empire. The Egbas were also fighting against Dahomey subjugation on the western flank.

So, due to her connection with palm oil trade - she brokered a deal with European traders whereby she was selling war captives as slaves in exchange for fire arms and ammunitions to fight the war. A lot of princes, warriors and kings from all sides were sold during this period in exchange for fire arms and ammunitions (some were also able to buy mercenaries with the sold captives).

She stopped selling slaves after she found out what was being done to them and led a war against European slave traders hence she was banished from Lagos by the Europeans. And they cut her power and influence. What she did towards the end of her life is why some still celebrate her but she was a very powerful woman. You can read books on history of the Yoruba and there’s one that was written by the son of an Oyo Prince who was sold into slavery but ended up returning to Lagos after slavery was abolished.

This is a summary of her life here: Madam Efunroye Tinubu (ca. 1805-1887) •

 

[Neuromancer]

Nah we need to learn a bout the history the Dahomey amazons are the most fiercesome warriors they became slave traders because they said never again would they be sold into slavery they were constantly raided by the oyo empire

None of this is an excuse.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

Not all your skinfolk are your kinfolk.

Take down her statues and only remember her with contempt if warranted. This is why it’s good that history has been made more accessible.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

@Ugo Ogugwa
@Amestafuu (Emeritus)
@NigerianDonDada
@Nigerianwonder

i have no parts in any slave history because I'm from Africa. Have nothing to say and I don't really care about this discussion breh. just another game of c00n olympics

 

[JadeB]

The concept of race did not apply back then. People would separate based on being in different tribes. There's still tribalism all over the world to this day.

Doesn't make it right at all, but this is how they most likely rationalized selling there own. Y'all applying our thought process to folks from over 5 centuries ago.

We know that and certainly most educated Nigerians know that. It's just foul that we (Nigerians, especially older ones) commemorate her and other slave traders. Fortunately, there is fast-growing pressure to remove statues and namesake of her and others in Nigeria now.

 

[Benjamin Sisko]

Yeesh

 

[Peter Popoff]

A lot of her descendants post on the coli especially in TSC and JBO.

 

[JadeB]

Nigerians down bad for this. How you gonna celebrate a slave trader?

this is the reason Africa is fukked they failed to take accountability for their actions.

They owe us reparations too

I wouldn't go that far but I recognize wealthy people and their descendants that benefited from the suffering of others less privileged than them deserve to give reparations to those who suffered.

 

[Bonk]

A lot of her descendants post on the coli especially in TSC and JBO.

She was a barren woman with no kids - so she had no direct descendants.

Those with her last name are descendants of her slaves (she was a very powerful woman and had many slaves) and they picked her last name to keep her name alive.

 

[Wiseborn]

I wouldn't go that far but I recognize wealthy people and their descendants that benefited from the suffering of others less privileged than them deserve to give reparations to those who suffered.

That’s what I’m talking about direct reparations to those affected and a revised Liberia or ADOS homeland that’s is a territory of the United States.

ADOS maintain their citizenship in the country that they built but autonomy in their own land

 

[JadeB]

She was a barren woman with no kids - so she had no direct descendants.

Those with her last name are descendants of her slaves (she was a very powerful woman and had many slaves) and they picked her last name to keep her name alive.

Including the Governor of Lagos State who attempted to run for president during the last election cycle.

 

[Will Ross]

Slavery existed in Africa but it was nothing on the level of the inhumane barbaric chattel slavery that we went through here where we were treated worse than animals.

Slavery in Africa was indentured servitude. You worked for free until you paid off your debts etc etc.

If, and I say IF, our ppl sold us to white ppl, they could not have known what we were in for once we touched down on America's shores. They had no way to know that we would be raped, brutalized, etc etc. They thought it was the same as slavery among black ppl in Africa, where if someone was your indentured servant, you could trade them between each other.

I'm still saying IF though, because I honestly do not believe that our ppl sold us to these devils. I think that's something they made up.

What you're saying does not make sense.
if you believe slavery in Africa was just indentured servitude than why would you think it was a lie that they sold people to whites?
l

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

What you're saying does not make sense.
if you believe slavery in Africa was just indentured servitude than why would you think it was a lie that they sold people to whites?
l

One reason is because of the way I've heard white ppl bring it up. Whenever I hear about it, it's used as a gotcha that they employ to try to deflect blame from what their fathers did to us. That's their primary use for it. And you know the saying, that the "winner writes the history books". Why would I believe their take on that part of our history? They have incentive to lie.