Men should be allowed to legally opt out of being a parent

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

If you swap semen with the bytch you got what you deserved plain and simple. If you arent smart enough to beat natures way of procreating you deserve to be railroaded by the system



No they shouldnt but at the the same time they should do everything in their power to PREVENT it happening and you should do the same for ther reasons than procreating

When we're talking about stories about guys using and discarding condoms but she's fishing in garbage to impregnate herself with the condom residue, then that's more than reasonable responsibility on the mans part. I think at that point, you have to hold the woman in that equation squarely responsible for her actions after he took steps to avoid pregnancy in that situation. If it's her body, I don't see why it should not be her responsibility as well.

 

[Amy Traphouse]

I can't get past dude's thinking that having a baby is like some ticket out the hood.

$200 a month in cs, a crappy gov't apartment, and a food stamp card with about $400 a month is nothing to aspire for.

Anyways, giving dudes that "right" to opt out pf bring responsible for a child only opens the door for more irresponsible dudes to run up in multiple broads raw. they have no consequences so why shoud they protect themselves? any problems they have that stems from their actions could either be taken care of with a few pills or simply signing their rights away.

I swear ya'll talk down on single parents or how kids were raised up wrong due to a single parent enviroment then wanna take away major factors which makes the situation worse.

vasectomies are only about $500 bucks I think and can even be done at your local planned parent hood, most of ya'll balling as nikkas need to go ahead and get snipped having b*stard kids will never be an issue for you.

plenty typos, oh well.

 

[MikelArteta]

 

[MikelArteta]

I can't get past dude's thinking that having a baby is like some ticket out the hood.

$200 a month in cs, a crappy gov't apartment, and a food stamp card with about $400 a month is nothing to aspire for.

Anyways, giving dudes that "right" to opt out pf bring responsible for a child only opens the door for more irresponsible dudes to run up in multiple broads raw. they have no consequences so why shoud they protect themselves? any problems they have that stems from their actions could either be taken care of with a few pills or simply signing their rights away.

I swear ya'll talk down on single parents or how kids were raised up wrong due to a single parent enviroment then wanna take away major factors which makes the situation worse.

vasectomies are only about $500 bucks I think and can even be done at your local planned parent hood, most of ya'll balling as nikkas need to go ahead and get snipped having b*stard kids will never be an issue for you.

plenty typos, oh well.

 

[winb83]

Its swaggless dudes who dont have a clue but talk like they know the deal, just likehis last thread about stay at home moms.



All I want to know is how is 12% of my salary more than having to raise a child by yourself or even having it in your company? If the female has custody she is PAYING as well with time and energy, you dudes will die a life filled full of fapping and loneliness thinking like this



Please tell me what breaks the woman gets having to raise that child, please I beg you?


If you were that smart we wouldnt be having this conversation



Independent costing how much and with what morals. Come on dude you are backpedaling now. Sex done the right way and the wrong way does cause pregnancy whats your problem?



fukkboy there needs to be an ejaculation for this to happen.... Sperm banks absolve these issues

you aren't even arguing any point i'm making all you're doing is making logical fallacies by calling me swagless aka personal attacks and making the irrational arguments like a man chose to fukk her so he should be on the hook.

the point is pre and post sex if a woman doesn't want to be a mother or have any obligation to the child she can opt out. if she chooses to keep the child and raise it that's her decision.

if she can have that luxury why can't a man be given the same option? and when i say this you totally ignore it and go back to the same canned response.

you know what a victim is? its a person that has to suffer because of the decision of another. you know what makes a man a victim in this case? the fact that once the pregnancy is discovered the women can still decide to terminate it or walk away from the responsibility of the child and he can't.

i'll clearly show you how a man in this situation is a victim. if she gets knocked up and he wants the baby and she doesn't and gets the abortion she robbed him of his child and he had no say so. he couldn't make her birth the child give him custody and pay him child support for a baby she didn't want. she made a choice and he had to suffer the result.

 

[winb83]

I can't get past dude's thinking that having a baby is like some ticket out the hood.

$200 a month in cs, a crappy gov't apartment, and a food stamp card with about $400 a month is nothing to aspire for.

Anyways, giving dudes that "right" to opt out pf bring responsible for a child only opens the door for more irresponsible dudes to run up in multiple broads raw. they have no consequences so why shoud they protect themselves? any problems they have that stems from their actions could either be taken care of with a few pills or simply signing their rights away.

I swear ya'll talk down on single parents or how kids were raised up wrong due to a single parent enviroment then wanna take away major factors which makes the situation worse.

vasectomies are only about $500 bucks I think and can even be done at your local planned parent hood, most of ya'll balling as nikkas need to go ahead and get snipped having b*stard kids will never be an issue for you.

plenty typos, oh well.

who said it was a ticket out the hood? all i said was that a woman could potentially gain from having a child. if she doesn't have shyt that stuff you listed is more than she had.

you argue about my solution opening the door for more irresponsible men what about the irresponsible women birthing children right now with no means to provide for them? care to demonize them as well?

vasectomies are forever. one day a man may decide to have his own biological kids. are you saying he shouldn't have that option just because he doesn't want kids right now?

again all you're doing is shifting all the blame and responsibility on the man then you have the nerve to suggest he use an extreme solution that can't be reversed and all this to basically say that a man shouldn't be considered equal to a woman in the realm of having kids. that a man shouldn't get the same option she gets.

 

[theGoldmangod]

The dude is neither birthing a kid after 9 months nor aborting it out of his system. I can see why he wouldn't get a say

Not saying its fair but I bet women don't think it's fair they gotta push that big head baby out their pussie while I'm in the waiting room like

It's life. Take your lumps bytch nikkas

 

[Un-AmericanDreamer]

The dude is neither birthing a kid after 9 months nor aborting it out of his system. I can see why he wouldn't get a say

Not saying its fair but I bet women don't think it's fair they gotta push that big head baby out their pussie while I'm in the waiting room like

It's life. Take your lumps bytch nikkas

Ironically, what we're talking about is similar to abortion. It's financial abortion. Men are terminating financial ties from families they never consented to in the first place.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

you aren't even arguing any point i'm making all you're doing is making logical fallacies by calling me swagless aka personal attacks and making the irrational arguments like a man chose to fukk her so he should be on the hook.

Logical fallacies did you just say that Big E Smalls? And yes, fukking naturally ends in procreation fukking and not protecting yourself ends in procreation take your pick.

the point is pre and post sex if a woman doesn't want to be a mother or have any obligation to the child she can opt out.

So can you NOT BUSS IN HER and there wont be any problems. An ounce of prevention...

if she chooses to keep the child and raise it that's her decision.

And if you are taken to court for 12% you got off the hook...

if she can have that luxury why can't a man be given the same option?

She still has to raise the child despite what you do or dont do

you know what a victim is?

Do I know what a victim is or a SELF inflicted victim because there is a hard black and white line between the two.

its a person that has to suffer because of the decision of another.

No one suffers because you decided to engage in unsafe practices with a woman you shouldve stayed away from to begin with. FOH

you know what makes a man a victim in this case? the fact that once the pregnancy is discovered the women can still decide to terminate it or walk away from the responsibility of the child and he can't.

If she talks "adoption" he has no recourse if he wasnt there at birth. If she terminates it that is between her and her maker, in either situation he has no recourse recourse is when she has it and takes him to court for shyt he should be doing...

i'll clearly show you how a man in this situation is a victim. if she gets knocked up and he wants the baby and she doesn't and gets the abortion she robbed him of his child and he had no say so.

Reincar much are you his apprentice and what point does this make towards the initial premise of your thread?

he couldn't make her birth the child give him custody and pay him child support for a baby she didn't want. she made a choice and he had to suffer the result.

Why buss in her then, thats your fault. I Suffer every time I read this I imagine a super emo dude saying this are you a beta male, are you scorned to thinking like this because this shyt aint healthy my G

 

[theGoldmangod]

Ironically, what we're talking about is similar to abortion. It's financial abortion. Men are terminating financial ties from families they never consented to in the first place.

He consented when he fukked her. I know the way sex works as should most cats that engage in it. Once a man buss, it's pretty much a wrap for him in the baby making process. If I know that going in, I can't logically complain after the fact. Like I said, take your lumps son. If you that worried bout "financial abortion" hold your dikk till you find a good girl you can trust and wife.

 

[AAKing23]

Although I feel men should be accountabale for who they bust in, I also feel like women should be held acountable for who they let bust in them.



And what better way to do that than to allow the man to opt out of being the father. This would certainly make chicks think twice about just letting any nikka run up in it and would probably reduce the amount of "oops babies" that we currently have.

 

[winb83]

The dude is neither birthing a kid after 9 months nor aborting it out of his system. I can see why he wouldn't get a say

Not saying its fair but I bet women don't think it's fair they gotta push that big head baby out their pussie while I'm in the waiting room like

It's life. Take your lumps bytch nikkas

i'm not saying he should get a say whether or not the child is born. i'm saying he should get a say whether or not he has any liability or responsibility to a child if he doesn't want such.

 

[OG_StankBrefs]

How bout just stop raw doggin random bishes. Pretty simple solution.

 

[CrimsonTider]

I can't get past dude's thinking that having a baby is like some ticket out the hood.

$200 a month in cs, a crappy gov't apartment, and a food stamp card with about $400 a month is nothing to aspire for.

Anyways, giving dudes that "right" to opt out pf bring responsible for a child only opens the door for more irresponsible dudes to run up in multiple broads raw. they have no consequences so why shoud they protect themselves? any problems they have that stems from their actions could either be taken care of with a few pills or simply signing their rights away.

I swear ya'll talk down on single parents or how kids were raised up wrong due to a single parent enviroment then wanna take away major factors which makes the situation worse.

vasectomies are only about $500 bucks I think and can even be done at your local planned parent hood, most of ya'll balling as nikkas need to go ahead and get snipped having b*stard kids will never be an issue for you.

plenty typos, oh well.

c/s the disdain for welfare and single moms on this site is something I will never understand.

who said it was a ticket out the hood? all i said was that a woman could potentially gain from having a child. if she doesn't have shyt that stuff you listed is more than she had.

you argue about my solution opening the door for more irresponsible men what about the irresponsible women birthing children right now with no means to provide for them? care to demonize them as well?

vasectomies are forever. one day a man may decide to have his own biological kids. are you saying he shouldn't have that option just because he doesn't want kids right now?

again all you're doing is shifting all the blame and responsibility on the man then you have the nerve to suggest he use an extreme solution that can't be reversed and all this to basically say that a man shouldn't be considered equal to a woman in the realm of having kids. that a man shouldn't get the same option she gets.

Yeah that stuff might be a "gain", but you have to subtract the time/money she nows has to spend on raising a child which is going to 100% of time not make welfare a "come up"

 

[AAKing23]

How bout just stop raw doggin random bishes. Pretty simple solution.

True, but we all know nikkas ain't gon stop doing that