Men should be allowed to legally opt out of being a parent

winb83

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Logical fallacies :what: did you just say that Big E Smalls? And yes, fukking naturally ends in procreation fukking and not protecting yourself ends in procreation take your pick. :hula:


So can you NOT BUSS IN HER and there wont be any problems. An ounce of prevention...


And if you are taken to court for 12% you got off the hook...


She still has to raise the child despite what you do or dont do



Do I know what a victim is or a SELF inflicted victim because there is a hard black and white line between the two.


No one suffers because you decided to engage in unsafe practices with a woman you shouldve stayed away from to begin with. FOH :pacspit:



If she talks "adoption" he has no recourse if he wasnt there at birth. If she terminates it that is between her and her maker, in either situation he has no recourse recourse is when she has it and takes him to court for shyt he should be doing...



Reincar much are you his apprentice and what point does this make towards the initial premise of your thread?



Why buss in her then, thats your fault. I Suffer every time I read this I imagine a super emo dude saying this are you a beta male, are you scorned to thinking like this because this shyt aint healthy my G
at any stage nobody can force a woman to be a mother or have any liability or responsibility to a child. none. not 12% or any %.

why shouldn't a man be given that same option? why shouldn't a man be able to opt out of parenthood, responsibility, or liability at any stage that a woman can do it at?

i'm not saying a man should be legally able to force an abortion on a woman or something unreasonable. i'm saying as a compromise give a man the ability to opt out if a woman vetos his abortion vote.
 

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How bout just stop raw doggin random bishes. Pretty simple solution. :ld: :yeshrug:
how bout just stop acting like birth control doesn't fail people and all accidental pregnancies are the result of negligence or irresponsibility.

what's your answer to the scenario of the Tabasco sauce in the used condom? if that guy didn't put that in there. if he just assumed she was a decent human being and tossed his used condom in the trash and she inverted it and stuck it up her cooch? instead of getting her insides burned like she did he could be due to be a father in 9 months.

oh i guess its his fault for being a normal person and not being paranoid as fukk in that case right?
 

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This makes no sense because every man with half a brain would give up the rights just as a precautionary measure. After the kid is born you know the woman is still going to let the man see his child if he wants so its a win win for the man. You dont legally owe anything to the kid or mother yet you can still be around your kid.
 

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how bout just stop acting like birth control doesn't fail people and all accidental pregnancies are the result of negligence or irresponsibility.

what's your answer to the scenario of the Tabasco sauce in the used condom? if that guy didn't put that in there. if he just assumed she was a decent human being and tossed his used condom in the trash and she inverted it and stuck it up her cooch? instead of getting her insides burned like she did he could be due to be a father in 9 months.

oh i guess its his fault for being a normal person and not being paranoid as fukk in that case right?

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Whoa whoa...hold da fukk up nikka. :wtf:

All i said was doods shouldn't be raw doggin hoes nowadays just based on gettin burnt alone. Potential pregnancy should also be in da forefront of summa dese nikka's minds before goin in unprotected. lol Geezus breh. fukkin relax. :huhldup:
 

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Why don't nikkas just grow up?

You put your dikk in a woman condom or no condom you have a chance at creating life

Its called responsibility, nobody is forcing you to have sex
 

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The dude is neither birthing a kid after 9 months nor aborting it out of his system. I can see why he wouldn't get a say :manny:

Not saying its fair but I bet women don't think it's fair they gotta push that big head baby out their pussie while I'm in the waiting room like :myman:

It's life. Take your lumps bytch nikkas

Agreed. I don't think that the OP is trying to limit the females decision making ability. She will continue to reserve the right to decide whether she wants to keep or abort.

The OPs argument is that the man does not have any recourse once the female is pregnant. He does not have an option to abort in order of absolving himself of responsibility.

Your argument it seems is that since the women has to carry the baby, it is her decision. The OP is not debating this. The question now becomes what does the woman carrying the baby have to do with a man deciding he wants to relinquish all responsibility and ties to the child in her body? How do they coincide?

Something to ponder
 

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Why don't nikkas just grow up?

You put your dikk in a woman condom or no condom you have a chance at creating life

Its called responsibility, nobody is forcing you to have sex

why is it when men want to opt out, this is the type of response we get


but when women want to opt out, and get abortions. they're looked at like some type of pro-choice hero :why:
 

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why is it when men want to opt out, this is the type of response we get


but when women want to opt out, and get abortions. they're looked at like some type of pro-choice hero :why:

Its enough "men" optin out as it is....

You act like an abortion is always 100% a womans choice

Lots of people go half, the man pays for it all, or the woman is persuaded into it
 

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Its enough "men" optin out as it is....

You act like an abortion is always 100% a womans choice

Lots of people go half, the man pays for it all, or the woman is persuaded into it

no, what's happening is women are trying to pin babies on men who didn't want to be fathers to begin with. seems like the culture of trapping men with that responsibility always goes unspoken.

i agree in accountability, but i'm sick of this man-up attitude y'all spewing. women can use bc, abort, or adopt; they can opt out at any time. it's us who have absolutely 0 legal say in the matter.

like i said earlier, birth control for men is coming; so this shyt wont even be an issue pretty soon. these hoes are going to have to find another way to lock dudes down.
 

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Its enough "men" optin out as it is....

You act like an abortion is always 100% a womans choice

Lots of people go half, the man pays for it all, or the woman is persuaded into it
an regular abortion is always 100% a woman's choice. now if she gets pushed down some stairs or kicked in the stomach that's different.
 

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a woman that agrees with me

no, what's happening is women are trying to pin babies on men who didn't want to be fathers to begin with. seems like the culture of trapping men with that responsibility always goes unspoken.

i agree in accountability, but i'm sick of this man-up attitude y'all spewing. women can use bc, abort, or adopt; they can opt out at any time. it's us who have absolutely 0 legal say in the matter.

like i said earlier, birth control for men is coming; so this shyt wont even be an issue pretty soon. these hoes are going to have to find another way to lock dudes down.
this shyt is basically like if you go on a plane you accept the fact that the plane could crash and you could die. now we have the technology to teleport anyone off the plane if its going down. if you're a woman and the plane is crashing you can teleport off at any time if you're a man and the plane is going down well tough luck you can't teleport off cause you decided to accept whatever fate the plane gave you when you boarded.

there are people in this thread defending that sort of logic. their whole argument is it doesn't matter if a woman has a choice at any point and every point because some time early on you were given a single point to make a choice so that's equal.
 
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this shyt is basically like if you go on a plane you accept the fact that the plane could crash and you could die.
Right so you decide whether or not you will fly...

now we have the technology to teleport anyone off the plane if its going down. if you're a woman and the plane is crashing you can teleport off at any time if you're a man and the plane is going down well tough luck you can't teleport off cause you decided to accept whatever fate the plane gave you when you boarded.

Stay on topic nikka. You are making use cases based on your irrational argument. The plane crashing and me teleporting has nothing to do with me fukking and WILLINGLY LAYING DOWN AND BUSSING in a chick. Your argument falls apart with each post. Thats like saying nikka the plane is crashing but I aint gonna use this teleportation device. Read. I know I am going to cum but I aint pulling out but I want this bytch and the courts to let me off even though I knew what I was doing

there are people in this thread defending that sort of logic. their whole argument is it doesn't matter if a woman has a choice at any point and every point because some time early on you were given a single point to make a choice so that's equal.


FOH read above....
 

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I'mma have to disagree. If it's your kid, you need to take care of it. If you are having sex you have to prepare for the repercussions of that as a man. There DOES need to be paternity tests after birth though.
 
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I'mma have to disagree. If it's your kid, you need to take care of it. If you are having sex you have to prepare for the repercussions of that as a man. There DOES need to be paternity tests after birth though.

This is why this whole argument/thread wreaks of failure. Not sure about the paternity tests after birth though who pays for it? Taxpayer or you? Is it govt subsidized? If not then by all means have at it? If I have to cover iresponsible nikkas then I aint for that shyt.
 
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