Men should be allowed to legally opt out of being a parent

Bigen King

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You sound just as stupid as the chick at my job who says every pregnancy should be accompanied by a paternity test. Who the fukk is going to pay for those b*stard children. There is a whole bunch of fail with this premise

1. Why are fukking with a chick RAW that if you got her pregnant you would leave your seed.
2. What man WILLINGLY walks away from his NEXT generation which begs the question was your father present in your life
3. Why would you want another man raising your child
4. Being able to opt out is talking the easy bytch made way out.
5. When the bytch on welfare its a nikka like me paying taxes that is gonna feel the crunch for you bringing in another air breather dead to society little b*stard ass child


Yall nikkas need to grow the fukk up but I doubt a beta ass male as yourself gets p*ssy anyway so carry on with your bitter repertoire, nikka like you are destined to stay swagless and p*ssyless

Find out you sharing that girl at the wrong time!

nikkahs in the waiting room, waiting for the results from the paternity test!

like :whew: come here baby:hug:!
 

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You have the game messed up men actually have rights as fathers. In most states neither parent have custody. Now if it goes to court thats something different. Stop assuming everything against men out here because its not. Men have rights just like women. Judges also are quick to award visitiation to men as well. Before it even goes to court both parties are required to go through mediation to get the matter resolved before even entering a courtroom. Its not all about the woman but you wouldn't know that because you assume without have the actual experience.
 
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1. doesn't have to be raw. you can do everything right and still knock a woman up. condoms are 95% effective meaning one in every 10-11 times used they're statistically inclined to fail. this is with 100% proper use.

Last I check 99% and if you use better discression the odds go way up

2. why can a woman have that option to walk away but not a man. we all make mistakes and accidents happen why should a man who has no desire to be a parent be forced into the role by another person?

Prevention and heading problems are the prevention to accidents if nikka made better decision with their partners the odds again go way down. Most of you nikkas are defensive. The shyt that is wrong with this is you are already one step behind.....

3. if you don't want to be a parent what difference does it make who raises a child you have no desire to have? why do people give children up for adoption? everybody isn't parent material either.

Since when was it hot to walk away from something you caused and didnt want to happen. Man the fukk up and raise you seed so they arent a drain on society like the rest of our people. our race wont get any better with you fukkers looking for a way out of shyt you contributed to. You enjoyed that shyt when you came. Enjoy that shyt for the next 18 years....

4. and being forced into parenthood is acceptable?

If you run someone over with your car and are charged with vehicular manslaughter were you forced to take that charge? Same goes for trying to beat the last few seconds WHEN YOU KNOW YOU CUMING FOH...

5. you gonna sit up here and act like right now society doesn't enable women who have no business having children to do so?

You act like you didnt fukking contribute YOUR 23 chromosomes to the kid either. bytches dont get pregnant alone....

these chicks are on welfare now and your tax dollars are paying for the shyt.
And its nikkas like you who want to walk away from their child that keeps this shyt going..

i know a chick that's basically homeless and got knocked up by a dusty nikka with no job. who's gonna pay for that kid?

You and I but if you continue to perpetuate this kind of thinking the problem will never get solved it will only force more people to being criminals to provide for children they cant afford or dont have help with

she has no job and nor does he. the government gonna pick up that tab. you act like a motherfukker paying $250 a month for a kid or some shyt is keeping these chicks off welfare and section 8 anyway.

This is "a whole nother" topic, where the government plays a part as well. You are mixing two separate issues
 

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if women faced the same legal consequences as men a lot of these children wouldn't be born. they'd be forced to be more responsible or face a penalty. as the game is now if a broke chick has a baby that child becomes a source of income for her and a way to a better life.

she can collect a monthly check from a guy and have the government subsidize her parenthood. now if the man could just walk away and not have to pay and the government raised the standards for aid then all of a sudden she faces a dilemma where if she produces a child she can't afford she could be assed out.

our legal system shouldn't be encouraging irresponsible behavior from anyone but yet it is. i also feel paternity test should be legally mandatory.
 

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im going this route myself...whoever i have kids with will not be involved in their lives. just my personal choice.
 
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if women faced the same legal consequences as men a lot of these children wouldn't be born. they'd be forced to be more responsible or face a penalty. as the game is now if a broke chick has a baby that child becomes a source of income for her and a way to a better life.

Its your seed its yours and her responsibility to raise that child.

she can collect a monthly check from a guy and have the government subsidize her parenthood. now if the man could just walk away and not have to pay and the government raised the standards for aid then all of a sudden she faces a dilemma where if she produces a child she can't afford she could be assed out.

Stay on topic you are mixing two issues....

our legal system shouldn't be encouraging irresponsible behavior from anyone but yet it is. i also feel paternity test should be legally mandatory.

A paternity test assumes there is a nikka there claiming the child....


im going this route myself...whoever i have kids with will not be involved in their lives. just my personal choice.

Sounds like you will be raising bitter gringos....
 

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if women faced the same legal consequences as men a lot of these children wouldn't be born. they'd be forced to be more responsible or face a penalty. as the game is now if a broke chick has a baby that child becomes a source of income for her and a way to a better life.

she can collect a monthly check from a guy and have the government subsidize her parenthood. now if the man could just walk away and not have to pay and the government raised the standards for aid then all of a sudden she faces a dilemma where if she produces a child she can't afford she could be assed out.

our legal system shouldn't be encouraging irresponsible behavior from anyone but yet it is. i also feel paternity test should be legally mandatory.

TROOF! :whew:
 

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like a one time deal right before the baby is born he should be allowed to legally relinquish all rights and responsibilities (including any child support) when it comes to the child.

i say that because at any point if a woman becomes pregnant she can do as she pleases legally and the man has no say so. she can get an abortion if she wants, she can carry the child to term and give it up for adoption or she can choose to keep the child.

if he puts on his condom and it bust and she gets pregnant even if he does not want to be a parent from that point on the man's only choice is to accept whatever the woman decided even being forced against his will to be a parent.

the attitude is oh well you shouldn't have had sex if you don't want to be a parent. ok i get that but why then doesn't the woman face the same recourse?

Is this true? if so, link.

The mom can give the child u for adoption even if the father wants custody of the child?
 

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Last I check 99% and if you use better discression the odds go way up



Prevention and heading problems are the prevention to accidents if nikka made better decision with their partners the odds again go way down. Most of you nikkas are defensive. The shyt that is wrong with this is you are already one step behind.....



Since when was it hot to walk away from something you caused and didnt want to happen. Man the fukk up and raise you seed so they arent a drain on society like the rest of our people. our race wont get any better with you fukkers looking for a way out of shyt you contributed to. You enjoyed that shyt when you came. Enjoy that shyt for the next 18 years....



If you run someone over with your car and are charged with vehicular manslaughter were you forced to take that charge? Same goes for trying to beat the last few seconds WHEN YOU KNOW YOU CUMING FOH...



You act like you didnt fukking contribute YOUR 23 chromosomes to the kid either. bytches dont get pregnant alone....


And its nikkas like you who want to walk away from their child that keeps this shyt going..



You and I but if you continue to perpetuate this kind of thinking the problem will never get solved it will only force more people to being criminals to provide for children they cant afford or dont have help with



This is "a whole nother" topic, where the government plays a part as well. You are mixing two separate issues
Male Condom : American Pregnancy Association
How effective is a male condom?
The typical use of male condoms, which is the average way most people use them, has a failure rate of 14-15%. This means that 14-15 people out of every 100 will become pregnant during the first year of use. Spermicidal agents increase the effectiveness to over 95% when used correctly and consistently. You should take a pregnancy test if you are experiencing any pregnancy symptoms.
condoms are not 99% effective

as for the rest of your arguments they can be summed up as oh well you shouldn't have been fukking so since the accident happened as a man you should pay for it.

all i'm suggesting is allow men to opt out or force women to face the same consequences men do. all you're suggesting is the status quo which is a system that enables women to be irresponsible yet punishes men regardless of him being irresponsible or not.

at any point a woman can opt out of parenting yet the man can't? why is this acceptable to you?
 
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Male Condom : American Pregnancy Association

condoms are not 99% effective

as for the rest of your arguments they can be summed up as oh well you shouldn't have been fukking so since the accident happened as a man you should pay for it.

Its all about cause and effect once you understand this the less you will make these types of arguments

all i'm suggesting is allow men to opt out or force women to face the same consequences men do. all you're suggesting is the status quo which is a system that enables women to be irresponsible yet punishes men regardless of him being irresponsible or not.

If she gives it up for adoption I am not responsible anyways and no you cant give it up if the father WANTS custody...

at any point a woman can opt out of parenting yet the man can't? why is this acceptable to you?

If he isnt there yes, if he is there no court is going to put a child into the system if the man is willingly going to take care of it.
 

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Is this true? if so, link.

The mom can give the child u for adoption even if the father wants custody of the child?

If paternity has not been established you are not the father. Paternity can be established by DNA or signing of the birth certificate.

So if she puts the child up for adoption and you have not established paternity, you will have to go thru the system to get your child.

And even if you do establish paternity, there is still no guarantee you will get your child back if the child has been placed in that home for quite some time.

Each state is different, but ultimately follow the same theme, so you'd have to do some research.
 
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If paternity has not been established you are not the father. Paternity can be established by DNA or signing of the birth certificate.

So if she puts the child up for adoption and you have not established paternity, you will have to go thru the system to get your child.

And even if you do establish paternity, there is still no guarantee you will get your child back if the child has been placed in that home for quite some time.

Each state is different, but ultimately follow the same theme, so you'd have to do some research.

Virginia isnt this way

A coworker of mine took care of a child for years all to have the parent druge, dealer grandma, drug addict mother and prescription drug addict father come back and get the child
 
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