MICHAEL JORDAN SAYS IT AGAIN .. "KOBE > LEBRON..5 BEATS 3"

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

So now the playoffs dont count?

"Finals stats" lol


Selective statistics used by bronies to push a false narrative lol

Nikkas forget a 22 year old kobe was injured on purpose by jalen rose and still put on show for game 4 and when it mattered that series.

Several years later, Lebron shot 22 on 38% in 2007 and the only excuse is "but but but boobie Gibson" nikka if they was good enough to get to the finals, they was good enough to win.

Remember Bron stans claim it's a team sport, so boobie and em was just as important in getting Bron to the 2007 finals.

Several years after that, Lebron wasn't even the 2nd best player in 2011 and the 5th best player behind Wade, bosh, Dirk and Jason terry

Several years after that. Miami got beat by the largest margin of victory by the Spurs who were seconds away from beating em the year prior.

Several years after that

You think I liked spending the past 10 years watching this nikka lose? I don't want to do this, even though more than likely I'll be doing it again next year June when that 6 FINALS L train stops by bron's legacy, unless D-wade travels with the cavs for all finals games

 

[10bandz]

TBH I can't really hold the 2007 Finals against Bron he didn't play all that great but was 22 as the leader of his team going up against the Spurs who were already 3 titles deep at that point. Would've been nice to get a win or 2 but can't expect him to win that series at all.

The 2011 Finals is the one where there's just no excuse. Thats like -1 ring thats how bad he choked. So he really only got 2 rings.

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

TBH I can't really hold the 2007 Finals against Bron he didn't play all that great but was 22 as the leader of his team going up against the Spurs who were already 3 titles deep at that point. Would've been nice to get a win or 2 but can't expect him to win that series at all.

The 2011 Finals is the one where there's just no excuse. Thats like -1 ring thats how bad he choked. So he really only got 2 rings.

Naw people hold 2000 against Kobe though he was a injured 21-22 year old. Atleast in my opinion I'm not giving Lebron passes except maybe 2015, but his stans was high in mighty when it looked like Lebron was taking 2015 from the warriors then went to a million excuses when he lost.

 

[Swagnificent]

He won 60+ games with a severely Shaq clogging the lane. Nice try though.

Shaq barely played and that Cavs team was build around LeBron. It had shooters that spaced the floor and guys who played defense.

Those Lakers teams were build around Shaq. And him dominating the post.

LeBron can't play with a dominant post player. Look at what he did to Chris Bosh.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

So what you're saying is your opinion is more valuable than Jordan's opinion when it comes to basketball?

my opinion based on facts that he can be suported with FACTIAL stats are more important than Jordan's agenda driven stance....who also lacks evaluation on able to scout real talent. To bang the point home even further, remember when Jordan said this?

Michael Jordan Breaks Down Blueprint for Defending LeBron James

When LeBron goes right, he usually drives; when he goes left, he usually shoots a jumper. It has to do with his mechanics and how he loads the ball for release. "So if I have to guard him," Jordan says, "I'm gonna push him left so nine times out of 10, he's gonna shoot a jump shot. If he goes right, he's going to the hole and I can't stop him. So I ain't letting him go right."

For the rest of the game, when LeBron gets the ball and starts his move, Jordan will call out some variation of "drive" or "shoot."

it's wrong and funny as sh1t

Was Jordan right about defending LeBron?

Video tracking data from Synergy Sports allows us to provide a statistical scouting report on just how James plays in certain situations. What are his tendencies? Where is he most effective?

We took a look at James in two key areas in the half-court in which he primarily hurts teams: in isolation and in the post.

LeBron Tendency In Isolation
James has three basic options at the start of any isolation action. He can drive left, drive right or shoot early.

He drives on 62 percent of his isolations, favoring the left over the right side. He takes an early jumper on 38 percent of his isolations.

So how do his tendencies change depending on which direction he goes? And which is most effective?

When he goes left

LeBron drives left on just over one-third (34 percent) of his isolation plays. When he goes left, his most common decision is to pull up for a jumper. It’s moderately effective, scoring on roughly 45 percent of his attempts

When he drives left AND attacks the basket, he is practically unstoppable, scoring on more than 85 percent of his plays, either from a made basket or free throws. On a points-per-play basis, James leads the NBA in drives to the basket when going left.

When he goes right

James' tendencies change when he goes right. Just as Jordan said, “when he goes right, he’s going to the bucket,” doing so on more than half of his drives.

However, he isn’t nearly as effective finishing at the rim going this direction. While still very good, his right drives to the basket “only” result in points roughly 60 percent of the time.

The Verdict

The numbers don’t agree with Jordan when it comes to James being in isolation.

Was Jordan right about defending LeBron?

LeBron James went left on game-winner, proving Michael Jordan wrong, youth coach right

"That theory is wrong, I guess," James said of the Jordan report.

According to their data, James drove left 52 percent of the time he found himself in an isolation situation this season and has shot 56.3 percent on those drives. Where does that field goal percentage rank in the NBA? Try first.

...

James scored an average of 1.13 points when going left, an efficiency that ranks him first in the league as well. Contrary to Jordan's opinion, the numbers say that James is actually better going left than right (he averages 48.5 percent shooting and 0.941 points going right). ... According to Synergy tracking, when James went left, he drove to the basket more often than he pulled up for a jumper.

LeBron James went left on game-winner, proving Michael Jordan wrong, youth coach right

What about Charles Barkley?

Chuck is damn flip flopper

Shaq?

^^2015

Wade?

^^2015

Bird?

2012 and then

Dominique?

2013

Dr.J?

2013

Pippen

Is your non-expert opinion more valuable than those guys too ?

thecoli.com yall

see above and this thread---> for wy I posted those reference dates

SCOTTIE PIPPEN ON LEBRON: "I DONT THINK HE'S SURPASSED KOBE AT ALL. HE'S MORE LIKE ME THAN LIKE MJ"

 

[IllmaticDelta]

So now the playoffs dont count?

"Finals stats" lol


Selective statistics used by bronies to push a false narrative lol

we talking about finals because that's where the ring in won

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

we talking about finals because that's where the ring in won

you can't forget HOW you got to the Finals, and the competition you faced along the way.


lol lebron stans

 

[surv2syn]

Well I guess Bill Russel is the goat then by MJ logic.

Jordan such a bytch sometimes....but in fairness, if someone said that to MJ, he wouldnt argue. MJ said himself there is no GOAT, only the best in each particular era. Bron has his weaknesses and failures but you still have to look at this thing with logic. Horry has more rings and more clutch shots than Bron but that dont make him better. Bron is the best ever in my book at making a team better and making them into a contender. Its just that he isnt that big shot guy every time.

 

[Champ_KW]

how am I a LeBron groupie? I didn't even know I was a fan. let alone a groupie.
we cant discuss basketball on here without being dikkriders? that's how I know not to take you seriously on anything involving kobe, from here on out. youre just being a fan.

pau gasol was arguably the best 2nd-option in the league back then, and he was also arguably the best offensive post player.

why couldn't you imagine LeBron winning a title with gasol, when we've already seen what LeBron does with less? kobe is the one that's never won anything without a stacked team.

smush, Kwame and Walton were not the 2nd, 3rd or 4th options for kobe. so why are you bringing them up? youre not about discussing basketball. youre about cheerleading.




i'd rather lose in the finals than lose in the 1st round like Jordan.
and Jordan won his rings in a weak era.

I don't even put the highest esteem in Jordan. theres older guys that should rank higher.
and kobe shouldn't even be in the discussion. hes not a top 10 player.

It's odd to hear people shyt on Jordan's era when the best group of centers played in his era, best crop of PGs played in his era, greatest collection of coaches coached in his era.....the list goes on. And the words weak should never show up in a discussion regarding Bron cause the East is historically bad. A few years back, the Mavs had to win 49 games, came down to the last game, just to make the playoffs in the west.....and that would've been good for 3rd in the East. Cut it out. I wouldn't lose in the 1st round playing those bums ass squads either.

 

[GOAT]

Don't like either of these nikkas, but in terms of legacy it's hard to argue with this. Depends on what you value you. Personally, give me results over excuses. Hard to consider a man the greatest who goes into Finals series' preemptively hyping up the other team/making excuses for when he loses in a couple of weeks. I just can't respect that mentality.

 

[Bilz]

Shaq barely played and that Cavs team was build around LeBron. It had shooters that spaced the floor and guys who played defense.

Those Lakers teams were build around Shaq. And him dominating the post.

LeBron can't play with a dominant post player. Look at what he did to Chris Bosh.

Shaq was their starting center You LeBron haters are always talking about how he defers too much yet you think he would have a problem having a dominant center he could just dump it in to?

And Bosh was a dominant post player now? He really only started taking threes in the last year of the LeBron heat years. He took even more threes after LeBron left.

I suppose we are going to say guys like Joel Anthony, Varejao, Mozgov, old Shaq, Haslem, JJ Hickson, Ben Wallace, and Tristan Thompson spaced the floor?

 

[IllmaticDelta]

you can't forget HOW you got to the Finals, and the competition you faced along the way.


lol lebron stans

why do kobe numbers get worse vs the East?

 

[Wacky D]

How is Jordan a hype machine??

go ask that question to a knowledgeable outspoken oldhead in that 60 & up age range.

and watch them go off

most of them hate Jordan & david stern.

Please stop breh, you're the same guy who said Horace Grant was part of a big 3 The fact you said it and actually think it negates your opinion on anything MJ/Kobe/LeLoss related.

for that era, and the way teams were built - yes.

tell the whole story and stop acting like a fakkit.

It's odd to hear people shyt on Jordan's era when the best group of centers played in his era, best crop of PGs played in his era, greatest collection of coaches coached in his era.....the list goes on. And the words weak should never show up in a discussion regarding Bron cause the East is historically bad. A few years back, the Mavs had to win 49 games, came down to the last game, just to make the playoffs in the west.....and that would've been good for 3rd in the East. Cut it out. I wouldn't lose in the 1st round playing those bums ass squads either.

Jordan won all his rings in the expansion era breh.

and no, that wasn't the best era for centers.

 

[Kimo_bud]

5 >>>>>>>>> 3*

Simple math for y'all dumb coli nikkas

 

[Champ_KW]

go ask that question to a knowledgeable outspoken oldhead in that 60 & up age range.

and watch them go off

most of them hate Jordan & david stern.




for that era, and the way teams were built - yes.

tell the whole story and stop acting like a fakkit.





Jordan won all his rings in the expansion era breh.

and no, that wasn't the best era for centers.

Lies. Name a crop of centers better than Ewing, Dream, Robinson, Shaq, Mourning, and Mutumbo.