These are terrible points, anyone with common sense knows you cant just strictly use any stat model traditional or analytics.
Michael Wilbon: Black Folks and analytics don't mix
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These are terrible points, anyone with common sense knows you cant just strictly use any stat model traditional or analytics.
Agreed.
David_TheMan
Banned
you know him personally. If you get a chance can you ask him why he felt the need to try to paint Sean Taylor like a thug. Why he felt the need to go on PTI and claim that he wasn't surprised this man was murdered in his home trying to protect his family?
This isn't a niche forum about sports, its pretty generalist. I've talked to blacks who know advanced metrics about bball and football and never once did anyone look at that person as crazy or disregard it totally. Like I said before typically its used as an aid in a argument, not as the sole argument as some stat nerds would prefer. So trying to invalidate facts that black americans do indeed understand and use analytics is false.
On top of that I'll help you out "black people do ___________" is a over generalization.
"_____ people do _________" is always a generalization
Over generalization is a logical fallacy.
I've seen it so much that I am generally weary when someone claims they are being "real" on race and start using over generalizations and don't use nuance
I quoted and posted that right away on my thread on this too. If your understanding of the game is so worthless that you can't figure out why points/possession is more important than points/game, you shouldn't ever have been allowed to post this article.
That doesn't work. You can't claim the sample size is too small them claim there aren't many factors...if there aren't many factors, then the sample size is far more than large enough.
Kobe took 26,000 shots in his career. Andrew Wiggins has already taken 2,500 shots and he's barely out of his teens. You can't tell me that analytics isn't going to be able to describe useful things with that data.
Chrishaune
Veteran
The game is changing.......If you want to be a part you have to keep up with the changes. I'm sure there are black people in some of the team offices.......That doesn't excuse the lack of black coaches around the league when a majority of the players are black......So when we see that plantation mentality "you do the work, I'll take care of the business"......We should point it out.
onthereal
All Star
I always love when blacks in the media speak for all blacks.
OG Talk
Archived
People that say they hate analytics really don't.. They just hate the people that are presenting the data.. Which is understandable, because the average analytic conference looks like a casting call for Girls or Broad City or the staff at Pitchfork...
But the use of analytics isn't new at all. It's been around for decades.. It just wasn't given a proper "label"... It's just like pimps and hoes has always been around.. Now they are just labeled "life coaches, "hosts" or "brand ambassadors...
The pretentiousness from people that couldn't make a left hand layup is what turns a lot of the jocks off..
thatrapsfan
Superstar
This was a pretty shoddy piece. There's an interesting piece to be written about "analytics" that he almost hooked into when he talked about the hiring trends in front offices, which is that by painting something as "advanced" one can change the credentials for certain positions so that a certain group is predestined to take up the bulk of the jobs and phase out plenty of people who can grasp the concepts but aren't well-versed in the new lingo. Same way so many dummies are in law and business - by learning the coded language, not by virtue of intelligence.
But the whole "nikkas don't be doin this" and "nikkas really believe that" trope is tired whether employed by black or white writers, and almost always flies in the face of my personal experience.
But the whole "nikkas don't be doin this" and "nikkas really believe that" trope is tired whether employed by black or white writers, and almost always flies in the face of my personal experience.
The American
Defending America against cacs
Yall nikkas don't understand how much white people LOVE comments like these. Nothing makes them happier than sambos who are all "We jus not as smart as white folk!" or "What about black on black crime" or "Where da white women at!".
It will never change. Whites eat this shyt up and believe it 100%. I've seen the whole "black IQ is lower than white IQ" stat 10000 times. Cacs love posting that shyt. Wilbon just provided whites more ammo for them to think they r superior.
It will never change. Whites eat this shyt up and believe it 100%. I've seen the whole "black IQ is lower than white IQ" stat 10000 times. Cacs love posting that shyt. Wilbon just provided whites more ammo for them to think they r superior.
Broke Wave
The GOAT
You need analytics as a coach or GM to build the most efficient gameplan and give your team the best chance to win but... Rigid adherance despite the reality on the floor is what is making the game look stupid. You need to be adaptive and make adjustments.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
This is so stupid. How does Wilbon get away with writing nonsense like this?
OG Talk
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I'm exaggerating the relationship.. I've actually just met him twice.. But he remembered me and my son the 2nd time and talked to him for like 45 minutes in a hotel lobby.. He came off as 100% old school Chicago n1gga.. Cool as hell and dropped a lot of jewels on my son..
But if I run into him again I'll let him know that The Coli don't fukk with him...