Microsoft is planning major Xbox lay offs next week and also ceasing some Xbox operations in some European regions due to restructuring

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@Fatboi1 i didn’t say anything about sony in the post you ran away from.

You know they release revenue numbers right?

One doesn’t have to “believe” anything.

It’s a fact that the brand is as big as it’s ever been, both on xbox consoles and elsewhere.

The question is why do some of you not believe reality?
:usure:

The second post is a question to you.

You can answer both if you want.

You won’t because it makes you HAVE to address realty.

We all know you cult members don’t like reality.
 

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@Fatboi1 i didn’t say anything about sony in the post you ran away from.


:usure:

The second post is a question to you.

You can answer both if you want.

You won’t because it makes you HAVE to address realty.

We all know you cult members don’t like reality.
You didn't post anything about Sony except for the three links about Sony/Playstation and Sony stans.

JESUS :mjlol:
 

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Genuine question,

Do you HONESTLY believe that the Xbox brand is bigger than ever and is not failing whatsover? You truly believe that everything going on(layoffs, game cancellations/studio closures, major first party titles being put on Playstation etc.) is just bullshyt narratives from Sony stans and that the XBOX brand(XBOX, not MICROSOFT as a whole), is thriving and is even better positioned for the future?

Please answer this, again without resorting to whataboutism or mentioning Sony/Nintendo. Just from a gun to head point of view, is the XBOX brand going strong? Again, NO WHATABOUTISM.

Folks never recovered from 2013 and been living in their pocket universe since.
 

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You didn't post anything about Sony except for the three links about Sony/Playstation and Sony stans.

JESUS :mjlol:
You know they release revenue numbers right?

One doesn’t have to “believe” anything.

It’s a fact that the brand is as big as it’s ever been, both on xbox consoles and elsewhere.

The question is why do some of you not believe reality?

Sony stan’s pretend to be blind and dumb in order to keep up with their alternate reality :wow:
 

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It literally goes hand in hand, doofus :mjlol:
No darkwing, either you have to acknowledge and admit MS is 1st place and they have "shrunk" the industry in terms of having more under the MS umbrella.

Or they are actually in 3rd place and haven't shrunk the industry


Mixing the 2 literally doesn't work mathematically, and anything outside of Xbox is in 1st place in gaming is wrong :manny:
 

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No darkwing, either you have to acknowledge and admit MS is 1st place and they have "shrunk" the industry in terms of having more under the MS umbrella.

Or they are actually in 3rd place and haven't shrunk the industry


Mixing the 2 literally doesn't work mathematically, and anything outside of Xbox is in 1st place in gaming is wrong :manny:

I don’t think you know what the term “shrunk” means in this situation.

they mass consolidated 3 publishers and closed those 3rd party studios under their leadership and have shrank each individual studio on top of it with layoffs. The industry is literally significantly smaller post acquisition spree from Microsoft.

and it’s not going to stop as long as they keep pushing AI
 

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Sony stan’s pretend to be blind and dumb in order to keep up with their alternate reality :wow:
If I asked you a question and then you respond with a loaded question and your new trade mark "cult member" nonsense, you already admitted you failed. You're just here to waste time as always and fluff up a thread with empty rhetoric. Carry on :yawn:
 

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If I asked you a question and then you respond with a loaded question and your new trade mark "cult member" nonsense, you already admitted you failed. You're just here to waste time as always and fluff up a thread with empty rhetoric. Carry on :yawn:
I didn’t respond with a question.

I responded with an answer then i asked you a question.

Like i said you refuse to engage with the answer because you know you have no angle so you deflect and run away.
 

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Genuine question,

Do you HONESTLY believe that the Xbox brand is bigger than ever and is not failing whatsover? You truly believe that everything going on(layoffs, game cancellations/studio closures, major first party titles being put on Playstation etc.) is just bullshyt narratives from Sony stans and that the XBOX brand(XBOX, not MICROSOFT as a whole), is thriving and is even better positioned for the future?

Please answer this, again without resorting to whataboutism or mentioning Sony/Nintendo. Just from a gun to head point of view, is the XBOX brand going strong? Again, NO WHATABOUTISM.
1st off, you can't sperate Xbox from MS. The absolute biggest hurdle to Xbox's brand is that it's a Microsoft piece of hardware.


I'll give you a hint of how I stay on top of the noise, narratives and opinions.


The financials :manny: the truth can always be found in the money trail. Not the surface level arm chair numbers used to cause FUD either.

I've been invested in MS since they were 35 bucks a share, I've followed gaming financials and the market for decades now.


On top of that I've been blessed enough (somehow) to sit in meeting after meeting for BILLION dollar companies, from acquisition, to hostile take overs, billion dollar negotiations at what looks like a table full of Illuminati members. I've had the privilege to sit and be part of meetings with the CEO's, CFO's, CIO's, CMO's, CLO's...

I've been HAD to be present for information that was highly sensitive, I've watched the listed above be mad stressed out day in and day out, because one day they have to get in front of people and tell them the truth in a open in way but still be the truth, and then turn around and do exactly what they said but not in the way they knew people would interpret it.

:hubie: I'm not built for that life, but it opened my eyes to how major corporations work from the top top down, so maybe it's just a case of things that Microsoft reports seems pretty standard from where I sit.


I have no reason for concern especially when it comes to Xbox gaming, like I said I'm more confident/pleased with it from an investors side and consumer side than I have ever been and the fact that gamepass team didn't get TOUCHED at all tells me than the numbers must be in line, add to that that hardware was double downed on and gamepass still hasn't gone up in price yet this year tells me that the game pass/console ecosystem is extremely valuable to them in manners that they probably don't even really want to share with the Ops. Let them catch up, just like with "MAU's"

:manny:
 

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I don’t think you know what the term “shrunk” means in this situation.

they mass consolidated 3 publishers and closed those 3rd party studios under their leadership and have shrank each individual studio on top of it with layoffs. The industry is literally significantly smaller post acquisition spree from Microsoft.

and it’s not going to stop as long as they keep pushing AI
I don't understand what shrunk means in the manner you are using it because those publishers didn't get closed down.

You could have had a point if publisher and studios weren't closing and laying off thousands of people since COVID ended, but multiple times a year we get reports of studio closures and game cancellations, but for some reason you are trying to cherry pick MS as being a outlier when it comes to layoff. Which ironically enough they are, but not for the reasons you keep trying to say.



Do you think based on what Zenimax and ABK have released, (even with the support of MS) that those studios in the climate we've been in and are in now would have survived with no cuts, closers or cancelations? Or fewer? Or been better off for employees and gamers?

:patrice:
 

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I don't understand what shrunk means in the manner you are using it because those publishers didn't get closed down.

You could have had a point if publisher and studios weren't closing and laying off thousands of people since COVID ended, but multiple times a year we get reports of studio closures and game cancellations, but for some reason you are trying to cherry pick MS as being a outlier when it comes to layoff. Which ironically enough they are, but not for the reasons you keep trying to say.



Do you think based on what Zenimax and ABK have released, (even with the support of MS) that those studios in the climate we've been in and are in now would have survived with no cuts, closers or cancelations? Or fewer? Or been better off for employees and gamers?

:patrice:

Is there another company that spent 80+ billion dollars buying publishers i don’t know about? You can’t say microsoft is doing this because of AI and also that those publishers and studios would have had layoffs anyway lol

the reason for the 9000 employee layoff, in your quote before is because of Microsoft pushing AI. Which now affects the studios at Activision/Blizzard/King, Zenimax, etc.
 

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Didn't watch the video, but this is the sucky thing about working for billion dollar corporations. You are literally always expendable, doesn't matter if the company is doing good or bad
:mjlol: 9000 isn't people isn't something to sneeze at brother no matter howyou both side it. Even Sega didn't do this
 

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This is before the most recent round of layoffs
 
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