Middle Class Black Rap is the future.

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The industry doesn't believe gangster rap or street oriented rap can have big commercial success anymore(in simple terms, white people aint buying it). That's why they rarely push these rappers. I mean meek is basically the only young street rapper in the mainstream and I don't even think he went gold.

Cheif keef flopping was a prime example
 

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nikka what the fukk are you talking about? What in the world does that have to do with anything?

I don't live in the Hood anymore, I'm personally okay. But I know PLENTY of people doing TERRIBLE. My cousins and uncles can't even afford to put food on the table or pay their rent.

Shame that you can't help them out. I mean, kids today on average have it better than your cousins and uncles' generation. They grow up with i-Pad's, HDTVs, and so on.
 

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Maybe its an up-north thing :yeshrug:

That Project High-rise is far worse than any projects down south. Down south, you have space to yourself and have a backyard. Up there, forget it. Can't even park a damn car.
it is no mystery.
why all the talent in rap in that time.
to even now...
all were primarily gangsta rap groups.
all built off the idealogy of the ice cube dead homies style track being on every record.
on top of the pr purposeful attack of people who offered duality like krs.

it became the guy who said,..

where I am from,..
if you are soft you're lost....

was made into the undesireable and attacked personality.
as his duality was attacked and made a mockery of.
plus, any cautionary tale based rapper, or rapper who offered a cultural aspect.
to go along with a possible street oriented message.

meaning a guy like g rap, was even negatively looked at, in general.
all because he symbolized the duality of the mecca of hiphop.
by being a technical marvel, and wordsmith.
so, the government attacked anything or anyone.
through and by any means, to demean any culturally associated artist.
who could offer clarity.

so a record like the edge of sanity,..
was not generally recognized by the new age rap fan, they narcissistically tampered with and created.
when, a record like that offered distinct content to help.

on top of the systematic attack of hiphop's mecca, NEW YORK.
into an utter wasteland of confusion.
at such an extreme point of no return.
using capitalism and personalities who have never operated in the culture's or the mecca's best interest as well.



art barr

I was saying that shyt for the longest. Gangsta rap was a weapon to keep the masses distracted and mentally fukked up. People who say that Hip Hop is all about "the streets" and the negativity of it, have no clue-or no respect-of their origins.
 

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Shame that you can't help them out. I mean, kids today on average have it better than your cousins and uncles' generation. They grow up with i-Pad's, HDTVs, and so on.

I help when I can, I'm not rich myself. I'm doing well enough to live decent.

And the amount of electronics made now has nothing to do with quality of life.

Poverty level in the US is high as hell man.
 

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I help when I can, I'm not rich myself. I'm doing well enough to live decent.

And the amount of electronics made now has nothing to do with quality of life.

Poverty level in the US is high as hell man.

Its high as hell, but even the worst person is living better than 25 years ago when the hoods were literally 3rd world countries. Plus the internet changed how a lot of people think, too.
 

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Kanye already established the middle class rap lane, though an argument can be made that he has since moved on to spit more bourgeois rap nowadays. While I am not a fan of these tight jeans wearing weirdos they're currently pushing down our throats, I can't say that black youths don't need more positive rappers. I just can't fick with these über-gangster rappers that glorify senseless violence in our neighborhoods. They're not good for our people. They're not pushing a message that benefits us at all. The difference between a Rick Ross and jay z as opposed to the nikkas in Chicago and everywhere else that this mindless gun clapping rap is dominant is that Ross and jay rhyme about moving beyond that dumb street shyt to something better. If you listen to jay or Ross or nas, they are telling nikkas to elevate their minds beyond the idiotic shyt that doesn't make nikkas any money. A nikka like chief keef doesn't motivate young nikkas in Chicago to get money. People like him spit garbage to influences fatherless nikkas to smoke loud all day and worship guns. :snoop: shyt is retarded. So I have to disagree with you. The kids need these middle class rappers.

Also, meek mills is NOT spitting the same shyt as the wu or jay or biggie. :comeon:


rick ross, kanye, and jay perpetrate this condition.
jay is the main person who perpetrated this in direct defiance of the principles of the mecca, breh.
him, ye [told you not to go to college, and titled it college drop out. while selling out the very culture. that nurtured him in a grassroots mode. to go to ny, and sell his soul to the jiggy movement. when culturally he knows way better. especially given the fact. he showcased the polo bear. which is demdare's mascot, and dem dare is not about that bullshyt he is on. on top of stiffing the dem dare members who brought him to the dance. so, he could even know about lo. on top of making an offbrand non-culturally aware brand of emo. that stripped away the cultural significance and responsibility of an entire genre]. jaz[sellout fake will smith bullshyt originally], and the entire jiggy movement.
is about not accepting full cultural responsibility in favor of being an extreme capitalist.
rick ross, is completely a living fairy tale.
that further perpetuates this.
as he willingly moves in the industry giving up.
the independent mantra, and publishing ownership.
that the person who signed him as a solo artist was all about.

as both are the continued evolution of bytch nikka fake fraud cultural sellouts.
nuffin they talk about is evolution.
it is about being a bytch nikka for capital, period.
while sacrificing the very foundation, and culture.
behind what created why they are where they are.


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Its high as hell, but even the worst person is living better than 25 years ago when the hoods were literally 3rd world countries. Plus the internet changed how a lot of people think, too.


NO,...
the original braintrust and culture ideal of the internet has been stolen away.
the world is even worse now than it was.

as we have the means to allow everyone an opportunity to flourish.
yet, purposefully this government systematically.
creates poor people as an exact science.


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I can't believe this nikka said nikkas in the hood aren't broke anymore...what country do you live in? nikkas are STARVING and broke as fukk right now. There's no jobs, hustling drugs isn't what it used to be, so nikkas gotta find other side hustles (CC scams, bank scams, hustle shirts, dvds, haircuts, whatever) just to get by.

You nikkas stay exposing yourselves.
What do you mean by "get by?"
 

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Which Troy Ave are you listening to?

Not Troy Ave himself, just people who acted like him that had a fabricated story about the hood, crime, selling shyt, etc., that was popular back then for all up and coming rappers. It wasn't until Kanye West and social media that changed everything up.
 

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But that shyt stagnated and got phased out on its own. It had its heyday, but that shyt being phased out is merely karma on what the hood did to phase out the socially conscious rapper of the early 90s.


it is not karma...
it is the government systematically snuff'n it all out.
let's put it like this...

they have a bop'n movement, now.
yet, people rejoice about how many views it has on youtube.

yet, if you think about it....
the views on youtube are a small miniscle number of spins/views.
as opposed to when the government was investing in rap for the prison economy system.

sicko mob
fiesta
has 1.4 close to 1.5 million views.

yet, that is only singular views....
not ownership of the actual record.
the record is not a real generation of capital for them.
when compared to the actual old industry numbers.

as 1.5 million views are singular spins.

back when rap was in the golden age...
rap sold 500K records for a group like epmd, on a whole album.
which you took home and spun as many times as you wanted to after purchase.
yet, we are duped into giving credence to spins.
which only reflect on spins.
as opposed to the infinite number of spins.
when you actually owned the actual record.

do you see the difference between then, and now.....

the government has studied and narcissistically created a way.
to eliminate the dispersal and acquisition of funds for rap.
while giving us a false new placebo, based on numbers.
that are not indicative of anything substantial.
there is no karma in that.
that is just systematically showing dominance and owning us.
to the point,..
it creates a divisive model.
where it creates a complex, that ruins what the message could be or is.
let alone, if you get the message.

karma has nuffin to do with it..




art barr
 

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The industry doesn't believe gangster rap or street oriented rap can have big commercial success anymore(in simple terms, white people aint buying it). That's why they rarely push these rappers. I mean meek is basically the only young street rapper in the mainstream and I don't even think he went gold.

Cheif keef flopping was a prime example
they flopped cause they suck. :mindblown:
 

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it is not karma...
it is the government systematically snuff'n it all out.
let's put it like this...

they have a bop'n movement, now.
yet, people rejoice about how many views it has on youtube.

yet, if you think about it....
the views on youtube are a small miniscle number of spins/views.
as opposed to when the government was investing in rap for the prison economy system.

sicko mob
fiesta
has 1.4 close to 1.5 million views.

yet, that is only singular views....
not ownership of the actual record.
the record is not a real generation of capital for them.
when compared to the actual old industry numbers.

as 1.5 million views are singular spins.

back when rap was in the golden age...
rap sold 500K records for a group like epmd, on a whole album.
which you took home and spun as many times as you wanted to after purchase.
yet, we are duped into giving credence to spins.
which only reflect on spins.
as opposed to the infinite number of spins.
when you actually owned the actual record.

do you see the difference between then, and now.....

the government has studied and narcissistically created a way.
to eliminate the dispersal and acquisition of funds for rap.
while giving us a false new placebo, based on numbers.
that are not indicative of anything substantial.
there is no karma in that.
that is just systematically showing dominance and owning us.
to the point,..
it creates a divisive model.
where it creates a complex, that ruins what the message could be or is.
let alone, if you get the message.

karma has nuffin to do with it..




art barr

Even if you are right about that shyt, technology is the one that made it possible without the middleman.
 
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