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Man, people literally thought the GOP was finished.

I still don't thin they can win a major presidential election. maybe I'm being naive, and maybe the midterm elections matter even more. The people that need to turn out for the left to win the midterm elections just either can't, or don't.

It's hard for a lot of people that would vote left to even be able to get off work to go vote in presidential elections, forget midterms. Also there's a sense of apathy. People don't care as much about big elections, but will still go out. For midterm elections it can be hard to get people to think it matters.

Say what you will about neocons and the far right, but those motherfukkers go vote man. Every fukking time. The white women and gay people that didn't show up for this election should show up in 2016.

I just don't understand how the GOP hates every fukking body besides rich white men yet they always find a way to either win or just barely lose.
 

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i honestly believe the gop wins were made possible by the racial vitriol and trolling by the extremist right over the past few years. really motivated their base to get out and vote against the bogey man aka "obama policies". this was as much about the trayvon and mike brown incidents as anything else imo.

not looking forward to the next few years. obama may be forced to go full dgaf mode with executive power or swing further to the right center. gop will try their best to shred his legacy and road block all non gop policy until 2016. smh

What I don't get about Obama is why does he try so hard to appease the GOP when they're going to crucify him anyways?
 

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I thought the Dems ran a decent campaign with Carter and Nunn, but they ran trash campaigns on every other state wide office I don't think I saw an ad for any of the other state offices at all

Carter was a terrible candidate, I voted for Deal. Him lying about wanting a household cap income on HOPE sealed it for me. I'm not voting against my own interests.

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/

This mufukka Perdue.... :snoop:
 

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What's 2016 going to look like?
Pretty good actually for Hillary. Republicans didn't win Senate races in any blue state and they didn't improve with minorities :ehh:

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What states are they gonna flip to reach 270 against Hillary? :mjlol:
Democrats start with at least 210 electoral votes guaranteed (no need to even campaign in those states). Republican states bring tiny electoral college votes (their only big state is Texas).
Remember, Obama still would've won without Ohio, Florida and Virginia!
Plus, Hillary will perform way better than Obama with white voters (especially white women).

Republicans have a clear disadvantage in presidential elections now. Mitt Romney won the deep South by comical margins with white voters and it didn't matter one bit. He won the white vote by the same margin as Ronald Reagan in 1980 but still lost.
In the past, democrats always tried to moderate their stances to appeal to those voters. Obama proved that democrats can now win the presidency and not care about the South.
The GOP's southern strategy has ended at the presidential level, after 40 years of dominance.
 
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Carter was a terrible candidate, I voted for Deal. Him lying about wanting a household cap income on HOPE sealed it for me. I'm not voting against my own interests.

http://www.politifact.com/georgia/

This mufukka Perdue.... :snoop:
yeah thought Carter was a reach as a candidate (than again any dem they would have put up was going to be a reach)
 

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My biggest gripe with Obama was that he tried to cater to the Republicans, he forgot who got him elected.

Dems didn't once try to give incentive the Middle Class Voters to vote, took them for granted.

Took Blacks and Young Voters for granted too.
 

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My biggest gripe with Obama was that he tried to cater to the Republicans, he forgot who got him elected.

Dems didn't once try to give incentive the Middle Class Voters to vote, took them for granted.

Took Blacks and Young Voters for granted too.
Minorities simply failed to show up... Republicans didn't gain on them in this election (they lost 80 percent of their votes, just like in 2012).

The problem for democrats is they rely on voters who are notoriously flimsy when it comes to midterm elections (minorities and young). Those voters only care about presidential elections. Apparently, midterms aren't sexy enough... It's been going on for decades.
The same voters who make them win the White House are also the ones who doom them in midterms.
One of Obama's biggest failures is not working to improve their sense of civic duty. What's the point of electing the president if you don't give a fukk about local and congressional races?
 

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not in comparison to 2006 and 2010

PG County didnt come out either.

considering that he only won 3 counties, you can't actually be upset at them

The GOP had targeted several battleground districts — in Baltimore County, Southern Maryland and the Eastern Shore. With most votes counted, Republicans were poised to pick up two seats in the Senate, and seven in the House of Delegates.

Before the election, the state GOP laid out a dream scenario: Elect Republican Larry Hogan as governor and pick up five seats in the House of Delegates. That number would give them ability to block any efforts by Democrats to override the governor's veto.

They surpassed that goal Tuesday night.
 

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What I don't get about Obama is why does he try so hard to appease the GOP when they're going to crucify him anyways?

i'm not sure he's trying to appease the gop, but maybe he's trying to come off as "bipartisan" or trying to play the quid pro quo game in an effort to get at least some policy decisions made.

obama found out the hard way that boehner and moderate republicans in the senate and house don't have the influence or balls to affect bipartisanship and compromise. the tea party effect is too much for them to overcome and there's no way they'll put their neck on the line at this point.

i don't expect to see a more moderate gop for another year or two when they will have to tone down their bs if they want any chance at winning the 2016 presidential election or keeping or gaining any seats in the 2016 senate elections. until then they will do their best try to make life hell for obama and democrats which may force his hand to do exactly what the gop wants him to. which they will frame as a unilateral effort to force through policy.
 

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im confused breh?

Im not upset at all.

Nah not saying you're upset, just saying we can't always depend on MoCo and PG.

Just started reading this article, I think it makes some very good points http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-governors-race-20141104-story.html

What this election made clear is that Mr. O'Malley's dominance in state politics was an anomaly, on the order of Schaefer's a generation before. The alignment he produced between progressives, African-American Democrats and voters with union ties now appears fragile, not inevitable. Maryland's progressives were electrified by Del. Heather Mizeur's run for governor, but many were turned off by Mr. Brown's starkly negative campaign. African-Americans mainly remained loyal to the party, but some key leaders in that community did relatively little to build enthusiasm for a man who would be the state's first black governor. And conservative Democrats abandoned Mr. Brown in droves in favor of Mr. Hogan's messages on the economy and taxes.
 

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Nah not saying you're upset, just saying we can't always depend on MoCo and PG.

Just started reading this article, I think it makes some very good points http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-governors-race-20141104-story.html
I will say this, all party dominance is an anomaly. If one candidate can bring everyone together, everyone comes together. Thats how things have always worked in this country and in Maryland.

A Kennedy lost an election in Maryland because she couldnt carry what Glendenning had.


Saying that, even with all of those factors, a democrat should not lose as badly as Brown did. He ran a bad campaign and is a bama on top of it.
 
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