When are you going to talk about all these great hitters that overcome terrible starting pitching with their locker room presence? Or are we going to ignore that half of baseball?
	
		
			
		
		
	
			
			Pujols the GOAT. He’s got the MVP’s and more than just pennantsBarry did win shyt tho, he won pennants. This ain't Basketball or Football. Pennants mean a fukking lot.
Only 5 teams even make the playoffs in both leagues and back then, it was just 2 80s and 90s and 4 in the 2000s. Playoffs is a major accomplishment.
Exactly. They haven’t been the worse team in the world they just aren’t a good team . And with the new baseball you don’t need a ace you need a bunch of new style hitters and a bullpen to be competitive. Look trout is a great player but he doesn’t have the Bonds effects where teams gameplan to stop bonds and doesn’t have a deep playoff run to his record either and is turning 30. I’m not saying he’s the goat ever until he does it on the biggest stageSimmons
Ontani
Fletcher
Calhoun
They had Justin Upton
Kinsler
Escobar before the injuries
Maybin when he was effective more consistent
Not to mention even, outside of this year. The pitching depth wasn't awful. They just lacked a true #1 or #2. Middle of the rotation guys but that's never stopped teams with superstars from winning. In the playoffs or in making the playoffs of course but not in the regular season.
Breh, they know. But like I said before. Cacs have ruined the conversation on Baseball. It used to be about real shyt. Old nikkas at the barbershop would be breaking shyt down. A lot of them dead. Old cacs too.Ok but @#1 pick has a good point . Why are we calling trout the goat and most valuable but also saying he can’t do anything about a bad team . So then are we looking at things in a vacuum and pretending it’s not pressure on a player on a winning team to perform than say a player on a losing team ? Idk . But advanced metrics are getting kind of out of control
He’s not. Imagine Trout playing in that band box.i think yelich on the brewers is a bigger star than he is

Simmons had a higher WAR then Trout one year, did he have a winning record that season. The answer is: No
Its obviously clear its there. The Brewers are over .500 with below average baseball team in the thick of the playoffs wild card spot in one of the TOUGHEST divisons in Baseball

Ah yes...the Mike Trout is the best baseball player in the world but his team never even remotely competes for a playoff spot let alone a championship...BUT you can't really expect Mike Trout to impact the Angels ability to win because "baseball players can't effect the game like that"...
Now you trolling. Prior prime window was small af but when he was great, it carried the team. Sosa was a superstat. But not a superstar. He was a spectacle. You trying to say I think Prior is better than Sosa which no way in hell is possible. His prime was small af. Sosa played a lot of years. It's like comparing Derrick Rose with Kevin Love pre ClevelandSimmons had a higher war by .4 the year trout tore his thumb ligament and missed 6 weeks
We just gonna agree to disagree , you said sosa wasn’t a superstar but mark prior was
They added great players who were historically great at their positions for that season and won. They only won 72 games the next year Bonds retired and Lincecum won the Cy Young. They added Buster Posey in the draft. Bumgarner came and shined. Had the best staff in Baseball with a very good offense and dominated baseball. Great players who fit in numbers win championships. Just facts... you act like the same team but without Bonds won titleshow did Bonds "impact winning" when the Giants won 3 titles as soon as he left?
You know nothing about baseball. One player can never lead a team to the playoffs it’s not the Nba or Nfl.
Why do nikkas pretend Bonds didn’t use roids lol