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No one player can make u a winner in baseball.
Mike Trout pose to be MLB's next GOAT and about to miss his 5th straight playoffs in a row....
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This isn't basketball where one player can change everything.
Trout can't control eight other batters on his team, or getting pitched around.
What exactly is he supposed to do? Answer that.
Trout can't control eight other batters on his team, or getting pitched around.
What exactly is he supposed to do? Answer that.
It's a locker room sport more than others as it's more of a marathon and not a sprint, lead the troops. It's not that difficult when you are a superstar. You have to have good leadership skills. The locker room is critical.
That's what I am talking about. These nikkas on here like, what can you do. I've said it throughout the thread. You didn't want to let Bonds down, even if you didn't like him in the locker room. You didn't want to let Griffey Jr. Sometimes those things transcend into other areas where it simply doesn't for Trout. Remember that show on Fox Sports with John Salley, Tom Arnold and the Baseball cacs, even they used to talk about it on the regular
Think about it, when cold pizza used to cover Baseball, it was big deal if a legit superstar in their eyes wasn't leading his team to success. Now in 2019, well Baseball is not a team sport, look at his WAR. I love analytics as much as the next nikka, hell I believe it's right in Basketball in a number of areas and I believe it has a strong place in Baseball but it leaves out the locker room, it leaves out how valuable aura is. No one is denying Trout as one of the most talented players to put on cleats. But damn, lead nikka!
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I disagree. He can't be the only reason you win rings but he can change the locker room and lead you to success with his passion and energy. I've seen too many cases over the last 30 years.
Tell me the superstars who can't win and at least take his teams to the playoffs in Baseball?
Yelich team hasn't been good in two years but he is in the wild card race still and last year was in the playoffs.
Betts team had the best record in Baseball
Miggy teams in Florida and Detroit won games.
Superstars win. Mike Trout doesn't. If the nikka that nice with it. He would get them there. Mad Max Scherzer pitches like once every 5 nights but in the dugout and locker room, he constantly amps up his teammates. I will post a video from Washington NBC sports but in an analytics era, these things seem to go unmentioned. It's disgusting to me. It's almost like everyone is giving Trout this pass so he can pass Bonds and they can officially erase his history from all time. Baseball ain't this nice. Superstars win
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angels 25th in era, bottom 10 in runs allowed , below average defensively along with middle of the pack or closer to the bottom in several other categories and this clown talking about “just lead the locker room 
” man shut your dumb ass up
The angels suck trout can’t play 8 other positions,pitch and hit.
” man shut your dumb ass up The angels suck trout can’t play 8 other positions,pitch and hit.
But but his team suck tho....angels 25th in era, bottom 10 in runs allowed , below average defensively along with middle of the pack or closer to the bottom in several other categories and this clown talking about “just lead the locker room
The angels suck trout can’t play 8 other positions,pitch and hit.
they haven't sucked in the other 8 years tho. What's you excuse now? But but but pitching 
bytch name one superstar that can't make his team a winner in the regular season in a decent scope? That's normally a commonality with MVP candidates in Baseball,
unless you Trout. 
Silly thread. All the other teams and players he is mentioning were built to succeed not all on the shoulders of Acuna, Bellinger, Yelich etc. Baseball is not a sport you can solely judge on win/loss record and the reason his hitting stats prop him up because that's literally the easiest way to compare players. A hitter vs a pitcher is an individual battle, his teammates have no impact on those outcomes. If they never get on in front of him, he has no RBIs. If they never hit behind him, he has no runs. This is not where Trout is judged as being great, its because hes literally one of the greatest hitters the league has ever seen since he came into the league. There are no numbers you can post or anecdotal evidence you can muster up that changes that.
Trout has played on significantly worse teams than anybody mentioned. That isnt his fault and I dont know what MLB player you could swap with trout that would make the Angels a playoff team. The best players trout has played with will never be confused as top players in the league. An old Torii Hunter? Howie Kendrick? Mike Napoli? Josh Hamilton? Over the hill Pujols? Justin Upton? Ervin Santana might be the best starting pitcher hes had on his team
Everyone wants to see him in the playoffs but people also understand context and one player arent overcoming teams like the Astros and A's in their own division until their team is built better.
Trout has played on significantly worse teams than anybody mentioned. That isnt his fault and I dont know what MLB player you could swap with trout that would make the Angels a playoff team. The best players trout has played with will never be confused as top players in the league. An old Torii Hunter? Howie Kendrick? Mike Napoli? Josh Hamilton? Over the hill Pujols? Justin Upton? Ervin Santana might be the best starting pitcher hes had on his team
Everyone wants to see him in the playoffs but people also understand context and one player arent overcoming teams like the Astros and A's in their own division until their team is built better.
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But but his team suck tho....
bytch name one superstar that can't make his team a winner in the regular season in a decent scope? That's normally a commonality with MVP candidates in Baseball,
Sammy Sosa was hitting 50-60 hrs with 140 rbis and the cubs were losing 95 + games
man go sit yo ass down somewhere You forgot about McGwire in Oakland/st Louis and bonds in frisco? Griffey wasn’t leading Seattle no where either bozo , they made the postseason twice in Griffey’s 10 years there
Anderton Simmons is one of the best defensive fielders in BaseballSilly thread. All the other teams and players he is mentioning were built to succeed not all on the shoulders of Acuna, Bellinger, Yelich etc. Baseball is not a sport you can solely judge on win/loss record and the reason his hitting stats prop him up because that's literally the easiest way to compare players. A hitter vs a pitcher is an individual battle, his teammates have no impact on those outcomes. If they never get on in front of him, he has no RBIs. If they never hit behind him, he has no runs. This is not where Trout is judged as being great, its because hes literally one of the greatest hitters the league has ever seen since he came into the league. There are no numbers you can post or anecdotal evidence you can muster up that changes that.
Trout has played on significantly worse teams than anybody mentioned. That isnt his fault and I dont know what MLB player you could swap with trout that would make the Angels a playoff team. The best players trout has played with will never be confused as top players in the league. An old Torii Hunter? Howie Kendrick? Mike Napoli? Josh Hamilton? Over the hill Pujols? Justin Upton? Ervin Santana might be the best starting pitcher hes had on his team
Everyone wants to see him in the playoffs but people also understand context and one player arent overcoming teams like the Astros and A's in their own division until their team is built better.
Forget about Ontani?
The names are endless, it's like all we get is excuses for Trout.
Baseball like other professional sports is fairly balanced on average especially with the luxury tax penalties which we didn't have in the 90s. If you are a superstar, much less one the caliber of Trout, your gravity should ascend your at bat and it always has.
You really think the Brewers are that good? Talent wise, you got racist Hader, aging star in Braun but are they really that talented? Cain helped the locker room tremendously. To me, these teams with the exception of teams like the Stros and Red Sox last year aren't head and shoulders above the rest. It's more to it. A lot of you guys are clearly missing the point.
To say Yelich just got a better squad to me is still bullshyt. He gets more out of them. Cain knows how critical the locker room is from his time with the Royals. They didn't have as much talent as the Halos when they swept them. They just knew how to win. Ya'll underestimate the things you see in the dugout, locker room and on the field chemistry impact on winning for a marathon sport like Baseball
Griffey made the playoffs twice on Seattle and he didn't show up at in 97. He didn't make the playoffs again until he was washed up. Talking about Jeff Kent like he was a bum and not one of the best offensive 2nd basemen of all time. Acting like the braves are only there because of Ocuna Jr, he is a big part but that lineup is fukking stacked. What a horrible fukking post
BigE214
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A-Rod was on the same shyt when he was in Texas.
It's funny though cause the Angles ran the division for so long and they always had hittin and pitching. With a top 5 you'd they'd own the AL West. They had some teaaaams but so did the Rangers and now the Astros. That's how baseball go
It's funny though cause the Angles ran the division for so long and they always had hittin and pitching. With a top 5 you'd they'd own the AL West. They had some teaaaams but so did the Rangers and now the Astros. That's how baseball go
Sosa wasn't a leader of men. He was just a prop like Mark. Those nikkas was all about numbers. They never had winning as a priority. That's one reason I am glad the steroids era came to an end. Look at the nikka now,Sammy Sosa was hitting 50-60 hrs with 140 rbis and the cubs were losing 95 + games
You forgot about McGwire in Oakland/st Louis and bonds in frisco? Griffey wasn’t leading Seattle no where either bozo , they made the postseason twice in Griffey’s 10 years there
He was then and is now just a spectacle. He was never someone I look at as a superstar. Maybe you did but I watched WGN like the rest of us when those 2PM EST games come on with Harry Carey. He just wasn't that player. Mark Prior to me was that player. I loved him and Kerry Wood. Heck, Baez is that player too. Tremendous leadership qualities. I like Theo. He understands the value of analytics but he understands the locker room and dugout and the importance of building a ballclub. Some of these new GMs who are Moneyball centric have no clue like so of you nikkas
You keep bringing up the Angels talent in the lineup and ignoring the fact their rotation is absolute trash.