Misconceptions Concerning Sports That Irk You The Most

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Nah, I've seen stats on this, you were right the first time. A 3 is more efficient than anything from 10-23 feet. The closer you are to the pain the the easier it is to contest your shot so players generally aren't more efficient from 10-15.

A 50% midrange shooter gets 100 pts/fga a 35% 3p shooter gets 105 pts/fga


Most people dont know that the regular ol Iso Post Up is horribly inefficient too.

Now if there is some misdirection and all of that beforehand its different, but to just come down and throw it in the post and say :ufdup: go get us a bucket is hard as hell. Yet thats another staple of what we want to see when we are sideline coaching
 

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Most people dont know that the regular ol Iso Post Up is horribly inefficient too.

Now if there is some misdirection and all of that beforehand its different, but to just come down and throw it in the post and say :ufdup: go get us a bucket is hard as hell. Yet thats another staple of what we want to see when we are sideline coaching

Post up Iso's are useful in a half court set because it's easier to manage the pace of the game when only one player is active on offense especially if that player is efficient and rarely turns the ball over. But yeah I'd imagine only the best iso ballers are able to make the most of it.
 

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*QB throws a 5 yard hitch.

*WR breaks 10 tackles and runs 60 yards for the TD

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ANNOUCER ON THE REPLAY: let's watch this amazing TD by the QB

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Most people dont know that the regular ol Iso Post Up is horribly inefficient too.

Now if there is some misdirection and all of that beforehand its different, but to just come down and throw it in the post and say :ufdup: go get us a bucket is hard as hell. Yet thats another staple of what we want to see when we are sideline coaching

I think that depends on when the stats were taken too. Cause if it's in the last 10 years during a time that the elite post scorers disappeared then of course it would seem to be an inefficient play. But you can't tell me that with Hakeem or Shaq down low isn't effecient. Plus do those stats measure shots created by a post iso that creates for others and free throws as well.

Same thing I wonder about the mid range shot. As we know the mid range game has largely disappeared. So if you compare the stats for a midrange jumper today versus mid 80s I wonder if the midrange jumper will appear nearly as inefficient.
 

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*QB throws a 5 yard hitch.

*WR breaks 10 tackles and runs 60 yards for the TD

ANNOUCER: awesome read, pre snap adjustment and throw by the QB

ANNOUCER ON THE REPLAY: let's watch this amazing TD by the QB

Me::comeon:






People kept giving Tebow the credit like HE stiff armed Ike Taylor and out ran the other CB to the endzone.

Tebow threw a quick 15-20 yard slant.....Thomas all did the hard work and didnt receive the credit afterwards:mindblown:
 
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@Homeboy Runny-Ray The 08' suns were another great Offensive team:yeshrug:

Again Nash's situation is similar to James harden, when he finally got his own team he showed you just how great he was. And it's true dantoni has flopped everywhere. He flopped in NY and he's flopping with the Lakers with a top 5 player in Kobe. He was never able recreate the same success without Nash, and Nash was able to get to the WCF in 2010 without Mike coaching

His system was basically give the ball to Nash and let him do every thing.

yea, but we're not talking about the '08 suns. we're talking abou an '08 nash. he had a weak year as soon as they switched up the system. then when alvin gentry took over and brought that style of play back to phoenix, nash was suddenly nash again. go figure.

and with that said, its not about d'antoni. im not trying to make pringles out to be a genius at all. you talk about 2010, but youre ignoring the fact that when gentry took over, he implemented a system similar to d'antonis. come on man. the chit is obvious.

lol @ the harden comparison. for one, we already knew what harden could do. more importantly, the comparison doesnt make sense. nash was the starting point guard in dallas. everything ran thru him. nobody was holding him back or hindering him from doing anything. the bottom line is the system enhanced his career, as well as others in phoenix. not just him.

and youre conveniently ignoring how d'antoni had felton looking like an elite point guard and how he had alot of bums looking important. theres people that played under d'antoni in phoenix & new york that are :eat: extremely well off of contracts they signed off the back of being dressed up in d'antonis system.

Nah they were a better team because they went farther in the playoffs. And Ai had three 30 point game with the Pistons and I don't remember him having many classic games when he was with them. If you looked at the playoffs the year before you would see that AI wasn't the same anymore. And again this aint a knock on Chuck but to say he was the same player in Detroit and Memphis that he was even in his first year with the Nuggets is preposterous. You talking about that Nuggets team not being better cause they only had a few more wins. But the chemistry was there with them and they clicked a lot better with Chauncey then they did with AI.

so they were a better team simply because they were fortunate enough to play against weaker competition? what kind of special shoe logic is this?:laugh:

i dont know, nor care how many 30 point games iverson had. youre too focused on googling stats. at some point, you have to have an understanding of the game.

by your logic of looking at the '08 playoffs, i guess carmelo became :flabbynsick: that year as well. im not saying that iverson was in 2001 form on any of these teams. not even the nuggets. but the idea that you can go from being the 3rd best point guard in the league, to a guy that doesnt deserve to start in a matter of mere months is tom-foolery.

the team chemistry was better with chauncey? for one, there were a number of other key changes to the nuggets that year outside of the chauncey/iverson trade. secondly, the nuggets offense was putting more points on the board before chauncey got there than they did with him. what people dont realize is that in addition to billups, they also added utility players.

now do i think that the team clicked a lil bit better with chauncey? of course. but that has nothing to do with iverson's departure, and everything to do with the fact that the nuggets lacked an impact point guard. that has nothing to do with iverson.

everything isnt A & B buddy. sometimes you have to think outside the box and apply critical thinking. people that dont do this are seen as gullable and are the main people that get taken advantage of.

D'Antoni's system is basically just pick up the pace, spread you out, and run a lot of pick-and-roll. He has things up his sleeve but most of the time it's not comprised of complicated plays.

im not saying that pringles is some sort of guru at all.

nash clearly benefited from the style of play. its not even just d'antoni, but alvin gentry as well.

3 more W's in the West was usually the difference between seeing the Rockets instead of the Spurs in the first round. a Chauncey Billups led team took the regular season seriously and didn't piss away games against bottom dwellers.

i totally agree. not arguing this at all. ive even said this in a previous thread about the nuggets before.

but that doesnt mean that they were a much better team.

*QB throws a 5 yard hitch.

*WR breaks 10 tackles and runs 60 yards for the TD

ANNOUCER: awesome read, pre snap adjustment and throw by the QB

ANNOUCER ON THE REPLAY: let's watch this amazing TD by the QB

Me::comeon:

BEST POST IN THIS THREAD.

HANDS-DOWN!!

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Tim Tebow to D. Thomas 80-yard TD pass (Dave Logan radio call) - YouTube



People kept giving Tebow the credit like HE stiff armed Ike Taylor and out ran the other CB to the endzone.

Tebow threw a quick 15-20 yard slant.....Thomas all did the hard work and didnt receive the credit afterwards:mindblown:

the one that burns me even more, is the one where sanchez threw that lil @$$ pass to santonio. my man caught the ball and basically killed himself going like 60 yards for the winning touchdown. iirc, that play was even better than the demaryus thomas chit.

but when they showed the highlights, i believe it was phil simms who immediately yelled out that "mark sanchez MADE that play" with such authority. i couldnt believe that chit.

Marvin Harris...I mean #88 didnt lke Peyton? :bryan:

i think some people tend to get carried away with the fact that marvin & peyton werent buddies.

and you know how that goes. the more people use them as an example of "duos that didnt hang".......sooner or later, the public percieves them to be enemies.
 
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*QB throws a 5 yard hitch.

*WR breaks 10 tackles and runs 60 yards for the TD

ANNOUCER: awesome read, pre snap adjustment and throw by the QB

ANNOUCER ON THE REPLAY: let's watch this amazing TD by the QB

Me::comeon:
thats not a misconception, its blatant qb dikkridin by the media and the sheep


Im genuinely surprised people arent proppin up qb tossing the ball to RBs yet :snoop:
 

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yea, but we're not talking about the '08 suns. we're talking abou an '08 nash. he had a weak year as soon as they switched up the system. then when alvin gentry took over and brought that style of play back to phoenix, nash was suddenly nash again. go figure.

and with that said, its not about d'antoni. im not trying to make pringles out to be a genius at all. you talk about 2010, but youre ignoring the fact that when gentry took over, he implemented a system similar to d'antonis. come on man. the chit is obvious.

lol @ the harden comparison. for one, we already knew what harden could do. more importantly, the comparison doesnt make sense. nash was the starting point guard in dallas. everything ran thru him. nobody was holding him back or hindering him from doing anything. the bottom line is the system enhanced his career, as well as others in phoenix. not just him.

and youre conveniently ignoring how d'antoni had felton looking like an elite point guard and how he had alot of bums looking important. theres people that played under d'antoni in phoenix & new york that are :eat: extremely well off of contracts they signed off the back of being dressed up in d'antonis system.



so they were a better team simply because they were fortunate enough to play against weaker competition? what kind of special shoe logic is this?:laugh:

i dont know, nor care how many 30 point games iverson had. youre too focused on googling stats. at some point, you have to have an understanding of the game.

by your logic of looking at the '08 playoffs, i guess carmelo became :flabbynsick: that year as well. im not saying that iverson was in 2001 form on any of these teams. not even the nuggets. but the idea that you can go from being the 3rd best point guard in the league, to a guy that doesnt deserve to start in a matter of mere months is tom-foolery.

the team chemistry was better with chauncey? for one, there were a number of other key changes to the nuggets that year outside of the chauncey/iverson trade. secondly, the nuggets offense was putting more points on the board before chauncey got there than they did with him. what people dont realize is that in addition to billups, they also added utility players.

now do i think that the team clicked a lil bit better with chauncey? of course. but that has nothing to do with iverson's departure, and everything to do with the fact that the nuggets lacked an impact point guard. that has nothing to do with iverson.

everything isnt A & B buddy. sometimes you have to think outside the box and apply critical thinking. people that dont do this are seen as gullable and are the main people that get taken advantage of.



im not saying that pringles is some sort of guru at all.

nash clearly benefited from the style of play. its not even just d'antoni, but alvin gentry as well.



i totally agree. not arguing this at all. ive even said this in a previous thread about the nuggets before.

but that doesnt mean that they were a much better team.



BEST POST IN THIS THREAD.

HANDS-DOWN!!

:congratulations:



the one that burns me even more, is the one where sanchez threw that lil @$$ pass to santonio. my man caught the ball and basically killed himself going like 60 yards for the winning touchdown. iirc, that play was even better than the demaryus thomas chit.

but when they showed the highlights, i believe it was phil simms who immediately yelled out that "mark sanchez MADE that play" with such authority. i couldnt believe that chit.



i think some people tend to get carried away with the fact that marvin & peyton werent buddies.

and you know how that goes. the more people use them as an example of "duos that didnt hang".......sooner or later, the public percieves them to be enemies.

It is possible to be starting player one day and a bench player the next. Players with AI's style of play get old overnight like its nothing. And was the West really that much weaker in 2009 than in 2008 that we dismiss the Chauncey for AI trade. And looking at that roster from 2008 to 2009 I only see one move the Nuggets really made and that was the BILLUPS trade.
 

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It is possible to be starting player one day and a bench player the next. Players with AI's style of play get old overnight like its nothing. And was the West really that much weaker in 2009 than in 2008 that we dismiss the Chauncey for AI trade. And looking at that roster from 2008 to 2009 I only see one move the Nuggets really made and that was the BILLUPS trade.

lets not play dumb. he wasnt just a starting player. he was a top tier SG. you dont go from being top 3 at your position to a washed-up has-been overnight.

the west was considerably weaker in '09 in comparison to '07 & '08. the funny thing is, the west was better in 2010 than it was in 2009 as well, and they failed to win a playoff series that year.

im not dismissing the chauncey trade at all. it was just overblown by the media and its gullable listeners. and they only had the one hot year. when the west stepped it

if you think that the only move the nuggets really made in '09 was the billups trade, then you dont understand basketball.:comeon:
 

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The idea that Pacman Jones deserved a 1 year suspension for throwing money in a strip club, cause that's all he did, when we really look at he facts.
 

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The 2011 Colts tanked. Thats why the 2012 Colts had such a quick turnaround. Even though they cleaned out the front office, coaching staff, and flipped half the roster.

That SB Rings / Playoff wins are a good way to compare QBs.

That QBs should automatically get a huge boost in perception if they win a SB. Example: all of a sudden people calling Flacco elite.
 
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