Naw....don't give Pip extra credit for not being a bytch. The Jordan rules didn't deter MJ so they shifted their bullying tactics to Pippen. Migraines and getting pushed around made it easier to best the Bulls. They finally won when Pippen stopped being a bytch and responded well to the rough stuff. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Naw....don't give Pip extra credit for not being a bytch. The Jordan rules didn't deter MJ so they shifted their bullying tactics to Pippen. Migraines and getting pushed around made it easier to best the Bulls. They finally won when Pippen stopped being a bytch and responded well to the rough stuff. Nothing more, nothing less.
MicIsGod
They like what that mean
No one talks about this. He been doin this for years too.Most of Bron stats just be straight stat padding these years, nikka really playing entire 4th quarters in blow outs against the Hawks
MooseMouthMthafuga
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This article is all over the place. The '93 suns were a force because of what KJ did three years before, what the fukk did you post??
Fair enough, in 2007 LBJ and the Cavs had to deal with Tim Duncan, who 4 seasons ago almost had a quadruple-double in the closeout game of the Finals
Keep ducking that the spurs and warrors to LeBron are more competitive than all the competiton MJ faced. Keep ducking LBJ had to go toe-to-toe with a 73 win team. Keep ducking LBJ had to face maybe one of the most offensive efficient teams in a postseason (2014 Spurs).
This article is all over the place. The '93 suns were a force because of what KJ did three years before, what the fukk did you post??
Fair enough, in 2007 LBJ and the Cavs had to deal with Tim Duncan, who 4 seasons ago almost had a quadruple-double in the closeout game of the Finals
Keep ducking that the spurs and warrors to LeBron are more competitive than all the competiton MJ faced. Keep ducking LBJ had to go toe-to-toe with a 73 win team. Keep ducking LBJ had to face maybe one of the most offensive efficient teams in a postseason (2014 Spurs).
Don't stop there....what about the Dirk and a bunch of aging midgets series? JJ Barrea is able to put his kids thru private school thanks to Bron.
That same team of Dirk and aging midgets swept the defending champ Lakers, beat the next year WC champs OKC Thunder 4-1 on the way to beating the next two time champ Miami Heat
So yes, lets bring up Dallas
But yeah lets bring up the '96 sonics, who beat...............
Oh the Utah Jazz, who beat...............
Oh the Knicks, who beat...............
Oh the Pacers, who beat...............
Oh that Phoenix team, who beat...............
but but but Bulls 7-game series
homie always look like he bout to take the wildest bite of some cake!Whenever they need ratings they bring up the Bron vs MJ debate
Why they always have Steven A looking silly in all the thumbnails?
The MJ vs Bron argument is one that always lacks context. The biggest missing piece that people are missing is, Jordan came, dominated, and WON as a shooting guard in an era of dominate post play. In today's game, the best perimeter, pick and roll, shooting players/teams are the most successful. To flip that on it's head, back then the teams with a dominate post player generally won, your Wilt's, Russell, Kareem's, etc. There's always been great point guards (guys with the ball) and centers (guys close to the hoop to score). Yes, that's an antiquated measure now, but back then that was the recipe for success. Jordan came in and dominated the league as an outlier at the time. It's not like he won 3 and lost 5.....he literally DOMINATED the league from the 2 guard position. Most of his peers are ring-less because of him. To get a better understanding of how great you'd have to be to dominate the league from an outlier position, the equivalent is a post player shutting out all the dominate perimeter, pick and roll, 3 point shooting players from winning in today's game. Can you imagine Curry, KD, Bron, etc getting shut out of a ring because they can't overcome the Demarcus Cousin's hurdle??? That's what all the great bigs of his era had to deal with in a time where dominate post play was the recipe for success. It's bigger than stats when talking about MJ and Bron. MJ, when given the proper context, is greater because HE "beat basketball". He was a shooting guard amassing points and hardware at the rate big men had prior to him. Bron hasn't "beat" basketball yet. Once Bron found his winning mojo and was anointed as the most dominate force in basketball, we've seen 3 point shooting/pick and roll teams beat him (GSW 1st time), we've seen aging superstar and a bunch of ragtags beat him (Dallas), we've seen "coaches system" beat him (Spurs), and we've seen "the guy right across from you" beat him (KD and GSW). There are too many ways to be great, win, dominate, etc that don't involve Bron in his own era, let alone spanning other eras. When MJ was on the scene, you couldn't be the greatest scorer of your era because MJ had 10 straight scoring titles. You couldn't be the greatest perimeter defender of your era cause MJ was out here giving you 200 steals and 100 blocks from the guard position. You couldn't be the ultimate winner of your era because MJ was out here winning 6 rings going to war with the likes of Will Perdue and Bill Wennington during the era of the largest concentration of great big men ever. MJ literally beat basketball. Bron is just great amongst many in his era.
stepbackj34spud
Top 75 All-Time
No he isnt.
That same team of Dirk and aging midgets swept the defending champ Lakers, beat the next year WC champs OKC Thunder 4-1 on the way to beating the next two time champ Miami Heat
So yes, lets bring up Dallas
But yeah lets bring up the '96 sonics, who beat...............
Oh the Utah Jazz, who beat...............
Oh the Knicks, who beat...............
Oh the Pacers, who beat...............
Oh that Phoenix team, who beat...............
but but but Bulls 7-game series
That's where we are with it.....Dallas is the standard for greatness now? Everyone and the mama know that Dallas team was inferior to the Heat team, but now you wanna act like they were a dominate force? Ok man. Even the most extreme Bron stans let the Dallas argument ride because there's no excuse for it. You're a different breed.
stepbackj34spud
Top 75 All-Time
So we gonna sit here and ignore that inferior team had maybe the GOAT playoff run or nah?? So let's act like Dallas beat scrubs in the West, is that where we are with it, they were inferior to the Lakers and OKC too, but they lost one game COMBINED playing both. Of course on paper they dont hold a candle to the Heat, but they won regardless.
And answer the other part of my post
Jazz/Knicks/Sonics/Pacers/Suns beat.............................................
Wait a minute....you can't say "of course on paper" then try to have an "off paper" conversation. What Dallas achieved "off paper" was great, yeah. But that does not make them the better team than the ones you listed "on paper". That Dallas team was not better than any of those teams you're trying to shyt on. You using the Mavs path to beating Miami as some kinda badge of honor for Bron is downright disgusting. And you'd be the main one in here spinning the other way when Bron's path to the Finals out East is discussed.
Uh yes it does, because outside his first title win, MJ didn't beat any teams that have proven they can win a title. None of those MJ matched up with MJ did what that '11 Mavs teams did. Again, I'm just saying LBJ had more competition than MJ, that's a fact. Not one of those squads from the 90s proved they can get over the hump in MJ's absence, FACT. His two year absence again was the Knicks taking on a silver platter, and they fumbled it, THREE TIMES!!! in '96 NYK should have won at least one, for their matchup would have been even sweeter and shown to the world that MJ was in fact the only thing stopping them. The Spurs did it after getting whooped by the Lakers, and coincidentally they beat the Knicks for their first 'ship
But we now just gonna sit here and act like they were this great all time team, when they didn't win shyt, nah. Pacers too, or Heat/Jazz. Missed me with that shyt.
Stop all this "can guard all 5 positions" bullshyt. No he can't.