Mob James: War Started Because Suge Couldn't Extort Diddy Like He Did Others

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

Certainly not an expert on the topic, but it seems that there was a Jamaican dude also there with Puff and Wolf. a diversion was started and the Jamaican killed Jake. But the Jamaican they (Mark Curry) said died like 2 weeks later

They SPECULATED jamaican nicca was loosely with Puff after Jake yoked him up in the club, quickly realised he weren't nothing to play with, and put him back down...and when he was clapping Jake whilst staring at Suge, wouldn't shoot through Diddy to shoot Suge when he turned his gun onto Suge and Suge used Diddy as a shield........ALLEGEDLY


And the Jamaican nicca got killed a week later in an unrelated event that they felt 12 was involved in. Nothing to do with Suge.

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

What exactly did Suge say about this

You gotta remember this is Cali them nggas love a ‘squabble’, a fade. Yall talkin like Pac was some stranger and he’d be dumb enough to swing off on Mob James and the mob would need to rush in

I’m more inclined to believe it was a fair one. Them Piru nggas wasn’t scary and they were big af pause. They would not need to step in to ‘help’ Mob go at it with Pac

Nicca

You dumb muthafucca...Pac's dead because he punched up a crip and the crip couldn't handle getting washed by a rapper...and that crip respected niccas like mob james' gangsta. Now...do you think if all that's the case, that a muthafuccin pyscho alcoholic like mob james is gonna let a muthafuccin rapper he don't respect to begin with knock him out and then not do anything about? And his brother whose worse also doesn't do anything about it? Nicca, use your brain for a second please

 

[Clapsteel O'Neal]

It make perfect sense that pac knocked James out and he could not do shyt because pac was the money. That is why he bitter after all these years

you niccas are ridiculous

And mob james his damn self has been very clear about why he doesn't like 2Pac

1. In his eyes he false claimed his hood when he put no work in and his niccas was dying left and right for their hood.

2. His death set a course of events that created a space where all of his homies got killed in the aftermath over the following few years.

3. Dumb sh1t like this, and people believing it. I'd be pressed too about a nicca where I felt and knew he was soft to me but because he's popular and grown men are in love with him, people can make up any story about him involving me and my people and then everyone believes it. I'd hate him too. Pac by effect ruined his hood (but tbf, him and his blood niccas had already ruined his hood by existing but that's a different conversation).

 

[Bondye Vodou]

If you truly believe this, you're a fuccin idiot. Seriously. I mean that.

These nikkas believe anything that makes 2pac seem like a super nikka. It is what it is.

 

[Bigsuk]

They SPECULATED jamaican nicca was loosely with Puff after Jake yoked him up in the club, quickly realised he weren't nothing to play with, and put him back down...and when he was clapping Jake whilst staring at Suge, wouldn't shoot through Diddy to shoot Suge when he turned his gun onto Suge and Suge used Diddy as a shield........ALLEGEDLY


And the Jamaican nicca got killed a week later in an unrelated event that they felt 12 was involved in. Nothing to do with Suge.

… the nikka who killed big Jake or allegedly killed big Jake wasn’t killed a week later it was a while later he got killed by the police in a shoot-out

 

[Bigsuk]

you niccas are ridiculous

And mob james his damn self has been very clear about why he doesn't like 2Pac

1. In his eyes he false claimed his hood when he put no work in and his niccas was dying left and right for their hood.

2. His death set a course of events that created a space where all of his homies got killed in the aftermath over the following few years.

3. Dumb sh1t like this, and people believing it. I'd be pressed too about a nicca where I felt and knew he was soft to me but because he's popular and grown men are in love with him, people can make up any story about him involving me and my people and then everyone believes it. I'd hate him too. Pac by effect ruined his hood (but tbf, him and his blood niccas had already ruined his hood by existing but that's a different conversation).

Your second point I disagree with another thing breh … mob James has never actully blamed pac for ruining his hood ever … I’ve listened to every mob James interview… he never once said that … he blames suge for playing cats in there hoood and other cats that were from other piru hoods but were allies of mob against one another … tupacs death had nothing to do with suge and mob James generation of mob piru and there allies falling out/falling apart … mob /lpp and there allies did what they were supposed to do and try to get some street justice for what happened in vegas since it was on there watch we all know they didn’t get te street justice they wanted but at least they did something….. suge , George Williams and a host of other pirus are the ones to blame for the pirus falling out and killing each other ….as far as mob James hate for pac as far as him claiming there hood without putting in work … you definitely have an argument with that and how pac was moving ….stil we ain’t mind readers and since pac is dead we won’t ever know if he was just feeling a sense of loyalty I should say stupid loyalty to cats he felt had his back by attacking orlando or he felt he had a deeper connection to those guys …. I agree that pac was definitely blurring the line between rapper and been on some gang -shyt from the outside looking in but we truly don’t know for sure …. I blame suge the pirus and pac himself for getting mixed up in that since he was the golden goose so I see where Mob James frustration comes from …. Mob James doesn’t actually hate pac tho from what I gather … he just feels frustrated that pac demise could have been avoided but he started to cling to the mob so bad that he went all out for suge , the mob and for deathrow something he didn’t and shouldn’t have put himself in that position…..

 

[spliz]

And still this reputable lawyer never showed any paperwork with jacks name on it spliz …..pac never actully called henchman a rat …. Show me a song or in vibe interview where pac called henchman a rat only thing pac said about henchman other than “promise a payback Jimmy henchman “on against all odds was when asked how they “meaning Jimmy n jack n them “make there money is by robbing Africans when he was asked in vibe magazine ..…..He only called jack a rat / hanger on etc ….

Who is he gonna show this paperwork to? nikka he ain’t a fukking clout chaser he was dealing with his client his main goal ain’t to slander Jack. What would he gain from that?

 

[Will Ross]

you niccas are ridiculous

And mob james his damn self has been very clear about why he doesn't like 2Pac

1. In his eyes he false claimed his hood when he put no work in and his niccas was dying left and right for their hood.

2. His death set a course of events that created a space where all of his homies got killed in the aftermath over the following few years.

3. Dumb sh1t like this, and people believing it. I'd be pressed too about a nicca where I felt and knew he was soft to me but because he's popular and grown men are in love with him, people can make up any story about him involving me and my people and then everyone believes it. I'd hate him too. Pac by effect ruined his hood (but tbf, him and his blood niccas had already ruined his hood by existing but that's a different conversation).

If James thought pac was soft and false claiming suge story makes even more sense.
No way is he being quiet around pac and no way is pac backing down to James

 

[dblive]

They SPECULATED jamaican nicca was loosely with Puff after Jake yoked him up in the club, quickly realised he weren't nothing to play with, and put him back down...and when he was clapping Jake whilst staring at Suge, wouldn't shoot through Diddy to shoot Suge when he turned his gun onto Suge and Suge used Diddy as a shield........ALLEGEDLY


And the Jamaican nicca got killed a week later in an unrelated event that they felt 12 was involved in. Nothing to do with Suge.

I didn’t say the Jamaican was killed due to something involving Suge. I only brought up the incident to show Wolf wasn’t all the security Puff had/needed at the time. My point was made as a reference to a poster saying Puff couldn’t have been extorted by Jimmy and Jack because he had Wolf. I was demonstrating an incident where Puff got yoked up allegedly in Wolf’s presence

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

… wolf invested some of the money in badboy so he was protecting puffy and some of his investment .. never said wolf was thanos but him riz and his crew had a name in nyc .. they were not gona just let henchman jack tut or who ever try bosss there way into badboy on some extortion tip … your another 1 who believes because pac said it in a sway interview it must be true …..sorry to burst your bubble but pac said a lot of things that he had no proof and was just going off rumours or assumptions…

Where did wolf get that money to invest in Bad Boy? Maybe drugs, huh? You don't think he had enough pull to petrify & exhibit a lil bit "influence" over Puff? Just saying.Even it that's not the case, Pac never named or specifically identified exactly who he was talking about in that Sway interview.You can tell they cut & redacted certain parts of that audio.The editing was real choppy.I do remember him making a statement about NY drug dealers having niccaz under extortion, but he never specified exactly who he was talking about.He just used the pronoun "Them".Never could really tell if he was alluding to Puff or just rappers in general.Puff maybe had the money to insulate himself from being robbed, but rappers? They can be food.Celebrities get strong armed & bullied by extortionist street crews all the time.Puff might've been good, but that don't mean certain artist wasn't getting pressed or taxed in some way.

 

[Bigsuk]

Where did wolf get that money to invest in Bad Boy? Maybe drugs, huh? You don't think he had enough pull to petrify & exhibit a lil bit "influence" over Puff? Just saying.Even it that's not the case, Pac never named or specifically identified exactly who he was talking about in that Sway interview.You can tell they cut & redacted certain parts of that audio.The editing was real choppy.I do remember him making a statement about NY drug dealers having niccaz under extortion, but he never specified exactly who he was talking about.He just used the pronoun "Them".Never could really tell if he was alluding to Puff or just rappers in general.Puff maybe had the money to insulate himself from being robbed, but rappers? They can be food.Celebrities get strong armed & bullied by extortionist street crews all the time.Puff might've been good, but that don't mean certain artist wasn't getting pressed or taxed in some way.

Pretty sure he was on about puffy n biggie they were the only ceo/ rappers other nas , junior mafia that pac had funk with at that time but mainly them 2 … and which other major drug dealers / street cats did pac have beef with other then Jimmy , jack , rick and tut answer is no one he was clearly referring to them ….

 

[Onigumo]

Mob James one of the most unintentionally funniest nigguhs ive ever seen in an interview.

Keefe D could give him a run for his money

 

[Braman]

Nicca

You dumb muthafucca...Pac's dead because he punched up a crip and the crip couldn't handle getting washed by a rapper...and that crip respected niccas like mob james' gangsta. Now...do you think if all that's the case, that a muthafuccin pyscho alcoholic like mob james is gonna let a muthafuccin rapper he don't respect to begin with knock him out and then not do anything about? And his brother whose worse also doesn't do anything about it? Nicca, use your brain for a second please

You sound like a casual who’s excited to know some low level information

Pac didn’t know Orlando. He didn’t know any better. On the flip, Pac KNEW Mob, knew all the piru nggas ——‘Neckbone, Tre, Heron, Buntry too’ ——so best believe he knew better.

So again I ask what did Suge say? That will let me know if I think he’s lying. If he said Pac just ran up and sucker punched Mob of course that ain’t happen. But could I see Pac and mob squaring up? Yes. Would the mob intervene and jump in if Pac and mob are shootin the fair one? No. Do I believe Pac ‘knocked out’ Mob? No. Is it possible Suge is exaggerating a true story? That’s what nggas do, so yes.

It’s clear from interviews Mob has/had a level of dislike for Pac. So I’m inclined to believe something could have happened between them

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

Pretty sure he was on about puffy n biggie they were the only ceo/ rappers other nas , junior mafia that pac had funk with at that time but mainly them 2 … and which other major drug dealers / street cats did pac have beef with other then Jimmy , jack , rick and tut answer is no one he was clearly referring to them ….

Yeah I'm sure of who the alleged extortionist were. Jimmy..Jack..etc

I just don't know for certain exactly who was being extorted.Puff might've had enough money to buy a pass key, but I don't know about everybody else.Like I said, that Sway interview seems sliced & diced.Context is missing.

 

[Roovers410]

You sound like a casual who’s excited to know some low level information

Pac didn’t know Orlando. He didn’t know any better. On the flip, Pac KNEW Mob, knew all the piru nggas ——‘Neckbone, Tre, Heron, Buntry too’ ——so best believe he knew better.

So again I ask what did Suge say? That will let me know if I think he’s lying. If he said Pac just ran up and sucker punched Mob of course that ain’t happen. But could I see Pac and mob squaring up? Yes. Would the mob intervene and jump in if Pac and mob are shootin the fair one? No. Do I believe Pac ‘knocked out’ Mob? No. Is it possible Suge is exaggerating a true story? That’s what nggas do, so yes.

It’s clear from interviews Mob has/had a level of dislike for Pac. So I’m inclined to believe something could have happened between them

If Mob got beat, hè wouldnt be at 662 the night of the murder. 2nd Buntry would not allow MOB to jump James.

This never happened