qnsfinest
Superstar
My brother, you know we go back like spinal cords in car seats, and I would never discredit you or anyone about their opinions on music. But come on, I don’t think either or those 2 make it in the top 10 let alone top 5.
Mobb Deep-Infinite (Coming 10/10) Official Thread
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Piff Perkins
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I love how both Havoc and Alc basically rejected the dominant sounds in dark underground rap to make this. It's not just drums. It's dark, imposing bass lines. The way multiple beats have layers, changes, etc. It's not just loops. And it gives the album a fuller sound like sounds great in the whip. I'm not shytting on Conductor, Roc Marci, Daringer, etc. But I think Havoc coming out to play (sonically) like this, alongside what Q-Tip did last year on the LL album, are really highlighting that it's time for more shifts in the scene. I'll never be tired of a great loop but I wanna hear Conway over something like this.
Like you said, Havoc gotta come back out after this. Man still got it.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
And it wasn't just beats. The flows on certain tracks, the way he was guiding the stitched-in P lines on a back-and-forth track, the hooks. Especially the hooks. We got an entire lane of underground dudes who can't write a hook to save their lives. Havoc just being in the studio with some of these dudes would work wonders IMO. And not just him...I'm not a big fan of the Rae or Ghost albums but you can hear them effortlessly figuring out hooks on some of those albums because they know what a live audience would gravitate to. Nobody wanna hear you just yelling one word (think about that lemonade track from Conway, with Meth lmao) off key. Come on with something a crowd can carry.
It's time for some evolution - even if this is technically a call for a return to basics. I might make a thread about this later lol. So yea I def agree Hav gotta come outside. And frankly I'm convinced a lot of older producers could thrive now if they wanted to.
chunky_mcdaniels
All Star
But what actually is it though? When you really boil it down? Genuine question.
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
If the ALC w/Mos Def and Erykah drop this year what a 2025.
They’re amongst my most played albums of the year
ShaDynasty
Chaos - The Album
They probably just cleared the sampled performance. The composition is from 1936 so it should be public domain.
Imagine if they would have threw G Rap on Part 2
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
Man, I'm a nerd for even replying to this, but there's a lot of them still being done. It's all about the artist and what they want from him. Mobb or Benny? They're always gonna snag the hardest drums and toughest beats. If it's Roc, Larry, or Earl? They're gonna favor more of the light and vibey loops with lighter drums. If it's Gibbs, Boldy, Conway...there's gonna be more drums, but usually a mix of both.
Alfredo 2 barely had any beats with no drums and it's 14 songs. The Badu project when I heard it live was mostly all drum beats. I'm assuming the Armand Hammer project on Nov. 7 will have a lot more lighter drums and drumless on it.
Alc also works a lot, obviously. And there's a lot of stuff to comb through. Of course the best feel for Mobb was gonna be the harder drums.
mahnameizray
Pull Up.
Am I bugging or was he supposed to be on it?Imagine if they would have threw G Rap on Part 2