Monster Wu project thread (cont.)

[mortuus est]

Yes it took 5 months almost. It's an intense album, many layers per song, some over 80 tracks.

why so much?

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

What millionaire would invest in this project? The RZA must have some connection with the making and process of this..right?

 

[Funcrusher]

What millionaire would invest in this project? The RZA must have some connection with the making and process of this..right?

Nope, apparently he did not:

I know it's confusing so let me say it like this. Originally, the album was going to be a Heavy Mentwo for Killer Priest if you can recall me talking about wanting to do that for the longest. That didn't work out but I kept producing and got into a zone where the beats were really starting to sound proper.

So then the investor pops up, I get a bunch of money and freedom to make my dream Wu album which wasn't necessarily a Clan album at that point, nor a Killa Beez compilation. It was more of a combination of both, well the idea was. I just let the beats dictate who I should get on there. That's how those line ups formed.

So as we were working and recording, the album started to look like it could be a Clan album. Not a Clan album the general public is used of hearing, but more of a Clan album that the fans would love to hear, one where the Clan interacts with the elite killer beez over vintage sounding Clan beats. And so that's what it became.

When it became clear that The Clan was having issues in trying to come to terms for a 20th anniversary album, the prospect of my album becoming the Clan's album became even stronger.

But RZA was never told about the recording of this album. I had some verses from him that he gave me on some of the beats maybe a month before I actually started working on this. So concepts for songs with RZA were built around what RZA did, not around what I wanted to do or others. That way we kept each song in check.

I didnt talk to RZA about this on purpose because first of all I hate talking bout what I want to do. I rather say shyt when it's already done. Also, I always like presenting projects completely done. Partly because I don't want third parties' interference on the direction of the album, so when an album's done and mastered there's not much they can do about it. And secondly, if RZA or whomever did like it, we could immediately go into releasing it and not be held back by "oh we still gotta mix this, or get a photoshoot and bla bla".

That's how I work.

So regarding RZA, I didn't really want him to know about it at all, not until I was completely finished. But because they had that disagreement on the tourbus a few weeks back, Raekwon told him about it. Rae is the only one who knows the most about this album.

The rest recorded verses on beats obviously sticking to the concepts I told them, but not knowing what the outcome of each song would be. For example, Deck wouldn't know U-God was on the same track as well as Killa, Meth, Red. Nobody knows about this superstar on the track neither, only Redman and Raekwon.

But I always knew the structure of each song, way before we even recorded it. You must have a final vision of a song before you start on it so you know what you're working towards.

So out of loyalty to RZA, considering the minimal chances of the Clan themselves coming to terms for a 20th ann LP, I feel obliged to offer RZA a first option on the album. But RZA could easily not like the album calling it dated, or say too many samples we gotta digitize (which is a no-no), he could want 50% or more (also a no-no). There's all kinds of possibilities that could happen. I usually do follow his lead and when I don't agree I still force myself to agree with him cause in the end this is his brand. But not for this album. For this one I'm striving for a 100% of my demands. And for the sake of us, the fans and for the sake of my efforts and for the sake of this brand itself, I have to a point in life where I feel that we as fans can now dictate what is best for this brand, better than the brand holders themselves. As selfish and arrogant as that might seem, I really believe that the fans have a better idea/vision for the prospect of the W, than the Clan themselves. It's because we know what we want to hear.

So this meeting with RZA can go well, or it can go sour. If it goes sour it means I will be restricted, mostly legally. I therefore had to build a plan around this possibility in order to safe guard this album's prospects and maximum potential for if I had to release it myself. That plan became agood idea and at the same time, provided somewhat of a revolutionary aspect to it that could give my name some leverage in the history of music. Could also horribly fail.

So lets see how it plays out.

I was hype for this project, and still kinda am, but this could easily be interpreted as fukking RZA over, and whether that's the right choice when it comes to the actual music or not, that man build the Wu brand, and you can't ever pass that imo. Even when you probably have a better Wu album in your hands than the clan is able to make at this point. It's either with RZA, or not at all.

 

[Ziggiy]

This dude just wrote and typed out that he feels that HE has the right to dictate what's best for the Wu brand over RZA.

The RZA who took 9 hood nikkas and turned them into international superstars.....


Tell this fakkit Clivaringz to get the ENTIRE fukk outta here with that bullshyt talking about he wouldn't do a 50-50 with RZA, or comply with his demands. I don't care if this turns out to be the greatest Wu project of all time it ain't shyt without the RZA's involvement or blessings.

@Billy Ocean I need you make sense of all this....

 

[Change]

Cilvaringz seems like a shady dude but I don't care as a listener. I'd straight up rather have that album he made then a full album done by RZA or whoever else at this point. Wu sold more and was more popular with that sound than anything they're doing now. There's a reason all the older heads stopped buying music, it's because we don't like it. Drop that WU sound and we'll buy it. It will sell.

 

[Red]

Ringz.. I see you... I still remember when you used to be begging me for Wu mp3s and used to try and leverage RZA's cell phone number to get people to do what you wanted and all that other shady shyt... you're a fakkit.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

haha, ringz single handedly caused warcloud first albums to leak on the internet that way @Red . the way you described with the cellphone. lol

the more he talks about this, shyt taht should be said behind the doors, the less chance this has of droppin.

he snaked rza in reality,. how do you not tell him "I AM MAKING A WUTANG CLAN ALBUM". Dude put you on. He fukked himself by airing out business he shouldnt have. This guy man... shyt is NEVER coming out.

 

[IronFist]

forgot all about this

 

[IronFist]

i'll have to agree with those that say Ringz is a cornball just him and his ego needs a reality check. not to mention some things ive read on the corp.

 

[Funcrusher]

haha, ringz single handedly caused warcloud first albums to leak on the internet that way @Red . the way you described with the cellphone. lol

the more he talks about this, shyt taht should be said behind the doors, the less chance this has of droppin.

he snaked rza in reality,. how do you not tell him "I AM MAKING A WUTANG CLAN ALBUM". Dude put you on. He fukked himself by airing out business he shouldnt have. This guy man... shyt is NEVER coming out.

Exactly, it's not like Wu Corp is some super secret exclusive site where things will stay secret. He says only Rae knows what's up really but then he puts the tracklist on there with snippets.

 

[IronFist]

Exactly, it's not like Wu Corp is some super secret exclusive site where things will stay secret. He says only Rae knows what's up really but then he puts the tracklist on there with snippets.

ringz is a straight clown

 

[Whitty Hutton]

Cilvaringz is what happens when a stan gets access

 

[Billy Ocean]

Cilva comes off as a bytchmade, overzealous Wu-Tang stan but he does have talent and we all know this album that he put together probably sounds better than anything coming from the Clan, as a whole, in awhile.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Cilva comes off as a bytchmade, overzealous Wu-Tang stan but he does have talent and we all know this album that he put together probably sounds better than anything coming from the Clan, as a whole, in awhile.

he would probably claim his new found fame as the Leader if he read that, lol

 

[Billy Ocean]

he would probably claim his new found fame as the Leader if he read that, lol

Yea, maybe, but it's the truth. Dudes personality is ass but he's made cool beats and the snippets I've heard from this project have been top notch.