Most Europeans want immigration ban from Muslim-majority countries, Pew Poll

[BocaRear]

DAVID HOROWITZ: Tracking pro-terror campaigns on U.S. campuses

"The two leading organizations in this terrorist proxy campaign are the Muslim Students Association (MSA), which poses as a cultural group but is really a recruiting tool for its founding group, the Muslim Brotherhood, and Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP), which was also created by a Brotherhood operative and takes an even more aggressive pro-terrorist role on campus defending Hamas rocket attacks on Israel and advancing its propaganda wars."

In Canada also...
Extremist links to Muslim Students Association not new; group has been monitored for years


Muslim Students' Association - Wikipedia




Lunacy huh?? maybe you just need to take your head out of the sand and realize that not everyone is just making shyt up bruh. The world is a cold place.

I don't condone terrorism

I misinterpreted your post and thought you were talking about universities, as in the actual academics, having associations with terrorist organisations.

Terrorism and radical Islam is the biggest threat to MUSLIMS ironically and should be challenged, but the way to tackle the problem is not simply to blame Islam; it's a very complex issue which requires tact and diplomacy.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

just because something isn't unheard of doesn't mean it isn't wrong.


If we can't even get semantics right in this country, how do we expect to fight real battles?


I mean, ppl are unjustly calling ppl islamaphobes, homophobes, xenophobes, racists, sexists, etc. all the time. How about we just stop misusing labels and start actually arguing the point.

Surely you jest.

Why do labels matter? Don't be so PC.

 

[Maschine_Man]

I don't condone terrorism

I misinterpreted your post and thought you were talking about universities, as in the actual academics, having associations with terrorist organisations.

Terrorism and radical Islam is the biggest threat to MUSLIMS ironically and should be challenged, but the way to tackle the problem is not simply to blame Islam; it's a very complex issue which requires tact and diplomacy.

don't get me wrong. i'm not the type to just claim Islam=terrorism. I don't think that at all. BUT, what is happening right now in the west, is planned....

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

thats why i said you can

that doesnt change the fact that being a muslim is a choice you make every day when you make up. no one is born a muslim, believing in the quran or even knowing what it is, certainly not believing that its real

You don't understand the nuance I'm trying to explain. Religion, is an immutable characteristic that's difficult to change. Sure, you're not born a Muslim. But you are socialized as a Muslim. The odds are, your family is Muslim and your preceding ancestors. There are vast social costs at denying that identity which are not analogous to say an occupation.

That's why discrimination on religious grounds are prohibited in most Western societies. Unless, you propose the un-Western idea of discriminating against religions that you do not share.

How barbaric of you.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Surely you jest.

Why do labels matter? Don't be so PC.

PC??? I am the furthest thing from PC......don't worry about that.

I'm saying, instead of having real arguments and conversations nowadays it just turns in to name calling, covering your ears and screaming.

no one is capable of having an intellectual conversation anymore because NO ONE knows how to think critically at all.

 

[Vinny Lupton]

"False equivalency of white racist europeans"

Oh really?

Muslims and Islam: Key findings in the U.S. and around the world

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

who said anything about bigotry towards a religion?

it's just not racism...

Racism and religious bigotry are equivalent. Also in the UK, they're also intertwined. You may not use 'Paki' in polite society but using 'Muzzie' is just as crude.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

PC??? I am the furthest thing from PC......don't worry about that.

I'm saying, instead of having real arguments and conversations nowadays it just turns in to name calling, covering your ears and screaming.

no one is capable of having an intellectual conversation anymore because NO ONE knows how to think critically at all.

Am I not having an 'intellectual conversation' with you. You sound like a victim.

 

[BocaRear]

don't get me wrong. i'm not the type to just claim Islam=terrorism. I don't think that at all. BUT, what is happening right now in the west, is planned....

that whole cultural marxism "planned islamification" is horseshyt breh
It literally stems from Nazi propaganda.

The West embraced tolerant liberal democracies( and with that comes tolerance of people from different races)
This combined with their destabilization of the middle east, africa and pretty much everywhere else has led to the inevitable influx of immigration.
The mass migration we're seeing now is the logical conclusion to the West's disproportionate wealth it's not some sort of elite plan otherwise Brexit or Trump would never have happened

 

[Maschine_Man]

Racism and religious bigotry are equivalent. Also in the UK, they're also intertwined. You may not use 'Paki' in polite society but using 'Muzzie' is just as crude.

I didn't say either.....

I've never even heard of Muzzie. I actually go out of my way to correct ppl when they call ppl "paki's" and other shyt. I don't care for any of that stuff TBH.

But I also know the difference between race and religion.

 

[Maschine_Man]

Am I not having an 'intellectual conversation' with you. You sound like a victim.

victim?

of what?

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

I didn't say either.....

I've never even heard of Muzzie. I actually go out of my way to correct ppl when they call ppl "paki's" and other shyt. I don't care for any of that stuff TBH.

But I also know the difference between race and religion.

In many parts of the world, there isn't a difference between ethnicity/race and religion. The Middle East is famous for this phenomenon. The Jews have varying phenotypes and immediate origins but are part of the same ethnicity or race. Alawites are referred to as a 'tribe' in French and Ottoman annals.

The difference between religion, ethnicity and race is arbitrary in some circumstances.

 

[Maschine_Man]

that whole cultural marxism "planned islamification" is horseshyt breh
It literally stems from Nazi propaganda.

The West embraced tolerant liberal democracies( and with that comes tolerance of people from different races)
This combined with their destabilization of the middle east, africa and pretty much everywhere else has led to the inevitable influx of immigration.
The mass migration we're seeing now is the logical conclusion to the West's disproportionate wealth it's not some sort of elite plan otherwise Brexit or Trump would never have happened

Brexit and Trump is their way of telling the Globalists that they are having enough with that bullshyt. the ppl are telling the governments that they are sick of foreign interference, sick of bullshyt, and sick of having to pick up the pieces of the actions of the government's meddling.

We are very tolerant in the west, and that is being exploited by the globalists that only care about their own interests.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

victim?

of what?

Only Allah, the exalted, the creator of the universe, the merciful knows.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Brexit and Trump is their way of telling the Globalists that they are having enough with that bullshyt. the ppl are telling the governments that they are sick of foreign interference, sick of bullshyt, and sick of having to pick up the pieces of the actions of the government's meddling.

We are very tolerant in the west, and that is being exploited by the globalists that only care about their own interests.

Who are the globalists? It seems that many of these reactionary nationalist leaders are quite wealthy or are global elitists who've benefited from globalization.

Farage, Trump and Le Pen come to mind.