Most of the black people who disregard DEI/affirmative action probably never even went to college.

[Brolic]

There’s a new narrative that DEI and affirmative action mostly benefits white women, Asians, and Latinos.

I slacked off in HS. I had a mediocre GPA and a slightly above average ACT score.

Spoiler

I got my act together and graduated undergrad with a good GPA .

I still got accepted into George Mason University. I didn’t go because of the out state tuition cost, but I still think my race helped me get in. It’s helped thousands of black men and women with similar GPAs and test scores.

 

[Wild self]

People on the Coli rather be ill-iünformed by the way of having 0 education post high school, but with a huge bank account. (10+ million dollars) and no financial advisor, rather than being an educated intellectual in a white collar job with 5+ million in savings and investments.

 

[I Really Mean It]

or, quite possibly, they’re people who earned a degree, entered the workforce, and became dismayed at how little dei did to diversify workspaces that were appallingly devoid of black faces.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

There’s a new narrative that DEI and affirmative action mostly benefits white women, Asians, and Latinos.

I slacked off in HS. I had a mediocre GPA and a slightly above average ACT score.

Spoiler

I got my act together and graduated undergrad with a good GPA .

I still got accepted into George Mason University. I didn’t go because of the out state tuition cost, but I still think my race helped me get in. It’s helped thousands of black men and women with similar GPAs and test scores.

You literally admitted that white people are right about black people with lower scores getting in over them.

Just say it’s to right past wrongs, and give a leg up to the minority populations, because the majority would rather choose their own. You have to play dumb like them.

 

[Brolic]

You literally admitted that white people are right about black people with lower scores getting in over them.

Just say it’s to right past wrongs, and give a leg up to the minority populations, because the majority would rather choose their own. You have to play dumb like them.

Some are. And it doesn’t matter because they still have to study and work hard once they get in. There’s no DEI or racial curve for exams.

 

[BaggerofTea]

tbf, i dont think die was applicable to you OP.

state schools are easy to get into because they want/need that out of state money

DEI is more for programs/initiatives that are designed to pipeline minority talent into a company.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Some are. And it doesn’t matter because they still have to study and work hard once they get in. There’s no DEI or racial curve for exams.

Hey. I have support those programs, and I’m happy more black people are put into better positions. I’m just saying the narrative is it’s inferior black people getting those positions, and I don’t believe that’s always the case. But in terms of college admissions, he just admitted he slacked off. So imagine someone else who didn’t get in, yet they didn’t slack off. But it balances out when the white guy hires his friend’s son. They only pretend to care about merit.

 

[North of Death]

tbf, i dont think die was applicable to you OP.

state schools are easy to get into because they want/need that out of state money

DEI is more for programs/initiatives that are designed to pipeline minority talent into a company.

DEI has shyt to do with college admissions...OP is a frontrunner and probably a high school drop out

 

[BaggerofTea]

DEI has shyt to do with college admissions...OP is a frontrunner and probably a high school drop out

I think should refrain from this conversation entirely

 

[Blessings]

You slacked off
Some of us didn't and are high earners in our respective fields

For those who didn't slack off, we know from first-hand experience white women, non-black LGBTQ, Asians, and Latinos benefit from DEI more than Black people.

 

[Vandelay]

Hey. I have support those programs, and I’m happy more black people are put into better positions. I’m just saying the narrative is it’s inferior black people getting those positions, and I don’t believe that’s always the case. But in terms of college admissions, he just admitted he slacked off. So imagine someone else who didn’t get in, yet they didn’t slack off. But it balances out when the white guy hires his friend’s son. They only pretend to care about merit.

It's definitely not inferior blacks getting in...well, at least not anymore than inferior whites. My years in the corporate world have shown me, most people like to hire people like them. That almost always coincides with white people hiring other white people just due to the sheer numbers of white people in that environment with similar backgrounds versus black people.

When I've been in a position to hire people, I look for people like myself, it's a bias...admittedly. DEI hopefully is a correction against that because the sheer statistical probability of our backgrounds will never allow black people to get into those positions with parity to our respective national population through sheer economic circumstances. Fundamentally, it's a chicken and egg problem. Hopefully, DEI allows for a few more eggs.

My company won't release the numbers; even internally, but north America alone I'd venture is about 5% black.

I say that to say, it's not completely a racial thing, it's a circumstance thing that many white people are seemingly oblivious to. And won't consciously do anything to correct unless there's a policy in place to do so.

 

[Mike Nasty]

DEI is more for programs/initiatives that are designed to pipeline minority talent into a company.

There are or were programs in place to help minorities enter universities. OP has a point but I don't think he was a DEI candidate because he was out of state.

 

[Blessings]

It's definitely not inferior blacks getting in...well, at least not anymore than inferior whites. My years in the corporate world have shown me, most people like to hire people like them. That almost always coincides with white people hiring other white people just due to the sheer numbers of white people in that environment with similar backgrounds versus black people.

When I've been in a position to hire people, I look for people like myself, it's a bias...admittedly. DEI hopefully is a correction against that because the sheer statistical probability of our backgrounds will never allow black people to get into those positions with parity to our respective national population through sheer economic circumstances. Fundamentally, it's a chicken and egg problem. Hopefully, DEI allows for a few more eggs.

My company won't release the numbers; even internally, but north America alone I'd venture is about 5% black.

I say that to say, it's not completely a racial thing, it's a circumstance thing that many white people are seemingly oblivious to. And won't consciously do anything to correct unless there's a policy in place to do so.

White people are definitely aware.

They are usually careful hiring an Indian or Chinese individual in a senior leadership role for the reason you mentioned of hiring bias.

 

[JuditeTormentor]

There’s a new narrative that DEI and affirmative action mostly benefits white women, Asians, and Latinos.

I slacked off in HS. I had a mediocre GPA and a slightly above average ACT score.

Spoiler

I got my act together and graduated undergrad with a good GPA .

I still got accepted into George Mason University. I didn’t go because of the out state tuition cost, but I still think my race helped me get in. It’s helped thousands of black men and women with similar GPAs and test scores.

This is not a “new narrative”, at all. When I first seriously began engaging in affirmative action convos/debates, the fact that white women and asians were the largest recipients of affirmative action was well-known. And this was 19 years ago. It almost sounds as if this is simply “news” to you.

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

It's definitely not inferior blacks getting in...well, at least not anymore than inferior whites. My years in the corporate world have shown me, most people like to hire people like them. That almost always coincides with white people hiring other white people just due to the sheer numbers of white people in that environment with similar backgrounds versus black people.

When I've been in a position to hire people, I look for people like myself, it's a bias...admittedly. DEI hopefully is a correction against that because the sheer statistical probability of our backgrounds will never allow black people to get into those positions with parity to our respective national population through sheer economic circumstances. Fundamentally, it's a chicken and egg problem. Hopefully, DEI allows for a few more eggs.

My company won't release the numbers; even internally, but north America alone I'd venture is about 5% black.

I say that to say, it's not completely a racial thing, it's a circumstance thing that many white people are seemingly oblivious to. And won't consciously do anything to correct unless there's a policy in place to do so.

Of course they won’t correct it. It’s not in their best interest to do so, which is why we need these laws and policies.