Ms Lauryn Hill Responds To Haters Saying She Didn't Write Miseducation in Write-Up to Medium.com

[daze23]

ego out of control, and she tried to throw the Godfather under the bus

RIP James Brown

 

[Ol’Otis]

naww

 

[I'm Blackman]

Ego maniac, lot of talking instead getting straight to it.

She's lying.

Miseducation of LH still getting play over here though.

 

[Meowth tote da Uzi]

God damn this b**** or the whole f****** book about the s***

 

[Zero]

She can write long ass blog posts but can't write another album

 

[Spin]

So how come she hasn't released a studio album in 20 years though?

You would think she died right after making Miseducation. To be honest, I think that album is slightly overrated anyways but I find it odd that she never made another album. Maybe she wasn't that great as we all thought.

Apparently she wasted tons of the labels money on the follow up album that never came out. Ran up bills for studio time and other crap. Maybe she knew she couldn't recreate the magic without her "team" there to help.

 

[Barry Sanders]

The album credits say the album is "produced, written and arranged" by Hill, and she is also listed as executive producer on all the tracks. The New Ark members--Vada Nobles, Rasheem "Kilo" Pugh and twin brothers Johari and Tejumold Newton--are acknowledged several times for "additional production," "additional musical contribution" and "additional lyrical contribution" on some songs.

They claim, however, to be the primary songwriters on two tracks, "Nothing Really Matters" and "Everything Is Everything," and major contributors on six others. Full or partial production credit is also due to the team on five tracks, the suit claims. The musicians also claim to have made sizable, uncredited production contributions to "A Rose Is Still a Rose," a song Hill produced for Aretha Franklin's last album.

 

[Barry Sanders]

In their suit, the New Ark members say it was Pugh's four-year friendship with Hill that led the singer to invite the musicians to join her as she began planning her pivotal first solo effort in June 1997. The suit claims the singer and her would-be collaborators hit it off in their first meeting, making grand plans and sitting in a circle as Hill led them in prayer. Pugh and the others were giddy afterward. They had some credits to their career, but the chance to work with Hill was their "big break."

The suit also claims Hill made verbal assurances to New Ark that they would be credited and paid for major contributions to the album, but they never pinned down their role in writing--which Harvey concedes was an error.

The suit says the relationship between Hill and the New Ark musicians cooled as the album neared completion and the singer began backing off her earlier promises of credit.

Harvey says Hill's handlers tried to placate Pugh and the others in November 1997 by arranging a publishing deal with Sony/ATV, the same publisher that handled the "Miseducation" songs for Hill. The deal paid the New Ark musicians a $100,000 advance for rights to their future work. Harvey said the size of the deal supports the group's claim that they are far more than mere studio musicians, and, indeed, industry insiders said a contract of that size is unusual for unproven songwriters.

The Legal Tangle of 'Miseducation'

 

[Jim Cornette]

a whole lotta juelzing... so basically she had writers.

 

[nieman]

Some of y'all do know that writing the lyrics and creating the music are 2 entirely different things amongst musicians. In hip-hop it's the producer and the writer, but in other genres writing the music primarily means the production, especially dealing with live instruments. They want full production credits.

If you've ever witnessed a jam session, the lead might hum something, or tap a rhythm and the players go from there, but eventually the band adds their own spin to it. But they're still following the vision and lead of the artist. That's why the band don't get as much credit for production. We don't really have this problem in hip-hop because of the lack of live instrumentation, only the Puffy/Dre's/Irv that fall more into the traditional producer.

Even in the past, no one questioned the lyrics. Those are like 95% Lauryn. The discussion was always that she primarily wrote and arranged and played the all of the music, in addition to the lyrics. That album is a cumulation of both, that's what made it remarkable. No one was doing what Lauryn did....not in hip-hop. And that album is still a masterpiece.

 

[New Jeruz Jewelz]

I’m not tearing down the image of this black woman. nikkas always so quick to rip one of our own apart without knowing the actual facts.

That album is Lauren Hill whenever I play it, those same exact songs go absolutely no where without that woman singing, rapping and bearing her soul throughout that album. Sometimes nikkas make me sick

 

[KravenMorehead™]

Some of y'all do know that writing the lyrics and creating the music are 2 entirely different things amongst musicians. In hip-hop it's the producer and the writer, but in other genres writing the music primarily means the production, especially dealing with live instruments. They want full production credits.

If you've ever witnessed a jam session, the lead might hum something, or tap a rhythm and the players go from there, but eventually the band adds their own spin to it. But they're still following the vision and lead of the artist. That's why the band don't get as much credit for production. We don't really have this problem in hip-hop because of the lack of live instrumentation, only the Puffy/Dre's/Irv that fall more into the traditional producer.

Even in the past, no one questioned the lyrics. Those are like 95% Lauryn. The discussion was always that she primarily wrote and arranged and played the all of the music, in addition to the lyrics. That album is a cumulation of both, that's what made it remarkable. No one was doing what Lauryn did....not in hip-hop. And that album is still a masterpiece.

Cats are committed to misunderstanding her. Don't bother.

 

[JustCKing]

Some of y'all do know that writing the lyrics and creating the music are 2 entirely different things amongst musicians. In hip-hop it's the producer and the writer, but in other genres writing the music primarily means the production, especially dealing with live instruments. They want full production credits.

If you've ever witnessed a jam session, the lead might hum something, or tap a rhythm and the players go from there, but eventually the band adds their own spin to it. But they're still following the vision and lead of the artist. That's why the band don't get as much credit for production. We don't really have this problem in hip-hop because of the lack of live instrumentation, only the Puffy/Dre's/Irv that fall more into the traditional producer.

Even in the past, no one questioned the lyrics. Those are like 95% Lauryn. The discussion was always that she primarily wrote and arranged and played the all of the music, in addition to the lyrics. That album is a cumulation of both, that's what made it remarkable. No one was doing what Lauryn did....not in hip-hop. And that album is still a masterpiece.

This.

 

[Walt]

She's a bum and a liar. Amazing how tightly people cling to these empty symbols they've never even had a conversation with. She tried to lowball my homeboy on a screenplay deal and he wasn't allowed to make eye contact with her and had to call her Ms. Hill. I told people that shyt like 12 years ago, way before Glasper. Everyone knows this bum is a bum. She stole music. She demands people sign Trump-style NDAs if they produce art for her to use as her own. She made one fukking album. she showed up to performances crying like a lunatic and dressed like a hobo. She no-showed a hundred damn shows and treated her fans like shyt. And there's plenty more evidence of her shyttiness over a long ass period of time at this point. But some of y'all still find ways to make this about some other shyt. Sometimes a bum ass piece of shyt is just that.

 

[JustCKing]

People are ignorant to the recording process that doesn't involve an MPC and an MC. She didn't go and get someone to make some beats and slap her name down as a producer. She hired musicians to play everything including replaying samples. As I stated earlier, musicians often do not share production credits with the song's producer because they already get an upfront fee and unless they are business savvy, they don't know about forfeiting points and publishing if they aren't credited as writers and producers. Even producers especially in Hip Hop do not know this.

Then the ignorance of Hip Hop fans and even so called heads is that when they so "co produced by", they assume the co producer ghostproduced the song and did all the work and the producer just took credit (even though you can clearly see the vo producer's name in the credit). That's why I go so hard on topics like this because I have seen posters on here completely dismiss legends like Dre, Timbaland, and RZA (some clown had the nerve to say one of the other Wu producers was doing RZA's beats). Ignorance like that shoukdn't be respected and when posters create these narratives and spread them, they should be banned if they can't come up with receipts. Even with Puff, he doesn't manually make beats, but he does in fact produce in that he tells musicians and other producers how he wants the music to sound.

I've seen posters on here even discredit Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis saying they stole "Got Til Its Gone" from Dilla when all they did was their own interpretation of the same sample. Same deal with The Trackmasters version of "Juicy" vs Pete Rock's.