Ms Lauryn Hill Responds To Haters Saying She Didn't Write Miseducation in Write-Up to Medium.com

[Peak]

She's a bum and a liar. Amazing how tightly people cling to these empty symbols they've never even had a conversation with. She tried to lowball my homeboy on a screenplay deal and he wasn't allowed to make eye contact with her and had to call her Ms. Hill. I told people that shyt like 12 years ago, way before Glasper. Everyone knows this bum is a bum. She stole music. She demands people sign Trump-style NDAs if they produce art for her to use as her own. She made one fukking album. she showed up to performances crying like a lunatic and dressed like a hobo. She no-showed a hundred damn shows and treated her fans like shyt. And there's plenty more evidence of her shyttiness over a long ass period of time at this point. But some of y'all still find ways to make this about some other shyt. Sometimes a bum ass piece of shyt is just that.

This. fukk Lauryn Hill. Finessed her fans for 20 years.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Last time I saw her she looked like she reads chicken bones and talk in tongues .

 

[Buckeye Fever]

Miseducation album is to Black females what Alanis' Jagged Little Pill was to White females

 

[Art Barr]

All that writing shyt and I still ain't never seen her write a cot damn rap line ever.
All that shyt sounds rosey for an rnb singer.

Yet y'all gave this rnb singer/actress.
a pass for bait and switch on giving us a rap album. When the thing in question is...is Lauren hill a real bgirl and emcee. Or just a classically trained art school voice over actress and singer.
who hires people to make music she provides voice overs for.

That is the question.
.you wanna prove you an emcee. Do some emcee shyt...this shyt not about in totality whether you wrote the rnb records. This shyt about whether you really an emcee for real. Or some voice over artist slash classically trained actress. who starred in sister act and after school specials. Like some chosen best of the classically trained parochial school system shyt.
Like we are being preyed on from the lessons unlearned and noted to be prescient from on beat street and break'n gon awry.

That is the issue.

Show us you writing some fukk'n rhymes.
Show us you actual spitting off the top. That is the issue.

We know you can sing. That is not the issue. The issue is you using and duping the culture of hip hop and its creative creator culture based process. Then infringing upon that culture based creator styled model and infusing it with Ol school sugar hill bait and switch Angie stone rnb artist tactics. That is the issue. Stop trying to flip and bounce a new narrative on the issue.

The issue is:

IS LAUREN HILL A REAL EMCEE.
OR JUST A VOICE OVER RNB STYLED ACTRESS.
POSING IN HIPHOP AS A CLASSICALLY TRAINED PLANT.


Till she shows us she can really rap on her own for real. She cns miss me with these notes and letters.
At this point.
shyt simple.

Rap, bytch.

Like for real stop playing rnb ass games.

All this band talk and shyt. Stop playing you started out the successful part of your career battling the roots. So kill all that band shyt. You ain't have no band for two whole albums in the beginning. Plus this hip hop. You don't need no fukk'n band or no sheet music or an native instrument. So all this crying with guitars and no showing and band etiquette shyt is sellout roots become culture thieves with jayz shyt. The shyt not emcee shyt at all. So stop.

bytch stop all the fukk'n shiesty shyt and emcee if you really an emcee.

Say less, rap more.



art barr

 

[karim]

People are ignorant to the recording process that doesn't involve an MPC and an MC. She didn't go and get someone to make some beats and slap her name down as a producer. She hired musicians to play everything including replaying samples. As I stated earlier, musicians often do not share production credits with the song's producer because they already get an upfront fee and unless they are business savvy, they don't know about forfeiting points and publishing if they aren't credited as writers and producers. Even producers especially in Hip Hop do not know this.

Then the ignorance of Hip Hop fans and even so called heads is that when they so "co produced by", they assume the co producer ghostproduced the song and did all the work and the producer just took credit (even though you can clearly see the vo producer's name in the credit). That's why I go so hard on topics like this because I have seen posters on here completely dismiss legends like Dre, Timbaland, and RZA (some clown had the nerve to say one of the other Wu producers was doing RZA's beats). Ignorance like that shoukdn't be respected and when posters create these narratives and spread them, they should be banned if they can't come up with receipts. Even with Puff, he doesn't manually make beats, but he does in fact produce in that he tells musicians and other producers how he wants the music to sound.

I've seen posters on here even discredit Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis saying they stole "Got Til Its Gone" from Dilla when all they did was their own interpretation of the same sample. Same deal with The Trackmasters version of "Juicy" vs Pete Rock's.

stop it breh. not being industry savvy doesn't mean it isn't theft if someone takes advantage of you. and that is what happend. they had a verbal contract and towards the end of the recording process, lauryn went back on her word. was it naive that they trusted her? probably. but that doesn't mean it wasn't wrong of her to steal their production credits.

 

[JustCKing]

stop it breh. not being industry savvy doesn't mean it isn't theft if someone takes advantage of you. and that is what happend. they had a verbal contract and towards the end of the recording process, lauryn went back on her word. was it naive that they trusted her? probably. but that doesn't mean it wasn't wrong of her to steal their production credits.

This goes for any musician. You don't understand how it works. Again, musicians are paid upfront fees and often do not get shared credits for writing and production because they were hired as players. This isn't as simple as "I played for you, I want my credits" because there's splits (not credit, but each writer and producer is entitled to percentages monetarily per song or the entire album depending on their contribution). If you get paid as a musician, and there's an article stating they got $120,000, then that is your fee. There's a world of difference between verbally agreeing to pay someone to play on your album and telling them they will receive shared credits as writers and producers. That's the discrepancy because they were paid and credited as musicians. Because there wasn't proper paper work (documentation that has to be filed with companies like BMI and ASCAP for publishing), they weren't properly credited.

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

So she gets her Dr. Dre on? Folks write it and she makes tweaks as it goes along?

 

[karim]

This goes for any musician. You don't understand how it works. Again, musicians are paid upfront fees and often do not get shared credits for writing and production because they were hired as players. This isn't as simple as "I played for you, I want my credits" because there's splits (not credit, but each writer and producer is entitled to percentages monetarily per song or the entire album depending on their contribution). If you get paid as a musician, and there's an article stating they got $120,000, then that is your fee. There's a world of difference between verbally agreeing to pay someone to play on your album and telling them they will receive shared credits as writers and producers. That's the discrepancy because they were paid and credited as musicians. Because there wasn't proper paper work (documentation that has to be filed with companies like BMI and ASCAP for publishing), they weren't properly credited.

As a former musician, I understand very well how it works. I also understand the power imbalances between established artists and musicians trying to get a break. It is very simple. She agreed one thing, then took advantage of their naivety and weaker position and screwed them over. It has happened thousends of times in the music industry and it continues to happen, because it is an industry build in relationships, where the strong take advantage of the weak.

In the end, it boils down to this: If I send you and Email, telling you I'm a nigerian prince and I need your help with a money transfer, you might be stupid if you fall for it, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm a scam artist who stole money from you.

Lauryn Hill is a thief, she might have done it out of greed or because of her ego and the competition she had going on with wyclef at the time, but she stole their credits and screwed them out of money they deserved for their contribution.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Exactly,these guys would never give a male rapper those kind of props based on that body of work,and based on those type of bars. Closest thing we have is 3K on the male side, and she has one tenth of the genius lyrically,and a tenth of the body of work of 3K. But she was a pretty girl,"real hiphop" who spit lyrical miracle bars who was from the east coast,a purist wet dream

Lauryn Hill was the Tupac in a business suit for dudes

 

[dontreadthis]

ego out of control, and she tried to throw the Godfather under the bus

RIP James Brown

everybody knew that about him though

 

[Rhyme n Tekniq]

truth is somewhere in the middle

I dont think the greatness attributed to her is due to her contribution ALONE. Not by a long shot. However. But I have to question the agenda of some people on here. These MF be right for the wrong reason and just wanna tear down black legends.

However, I've been hearing about her unprofessionalism since 2002, so this shyt aint exactly falling out of the sky.

I

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

People are ignorant to the recording process that doesn't involve an MPC and an MC. She didn't go and get someone to make some beats and slap her name down as a producer. She hired musicians to play everything including replaying samples. As I stated earlier, musicians often do not share production credits with the song's producer because they already get an upfront fee and unless they are business savvy, they don't know about forfeiting points and publishing if they aren't credited as writers and producers. Even producers especially in Hip Hop do not know this.

Then the ignorance of Hip Hop fans and even so called heads is that when they so "co produced by", they assume the co producer ghostproduced the song and did all the work and the producer just took credit (even though you can clearly see the vo producer's name in the credit). That's why I go so hard on topics like this because I have seen posters on here completely dismiss legends like Dre, Timbaland, and RZA (some clown had the nerve to say one of the other Wu producers was doing RZA's beats). Ignorance like that shoukdn't be respected and when posters create these narratives and spread them, they should be banned if they can't come up with receipts. Even with Puff, he doesn't manually make beats, but he does in fact produce in that he tells musicians and other producers how he wants the music to sound.

I've seen posters on here even discredit Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis saying they stole "Got Til Its Gone" from Dilla when all they did was their own interpretation of the same sample. Same deal with The Trackmasters version of "Juicy" vs Pete Rock's.

bum ass lie.. all credibility went out the window

For the record Glasper said they came to her with music as well... as in concepts. so this isn't what you are making it out to be. Lauryn straight up lied about a bunch of stuff in that response. The eye contact thing for instance, can't trust her word on anything.

 

[erker]

(wall of text)

Say less, rap more.



art barr

Yet here you are, writing walls of text on a messageboard.

 

[Art Barr]

Yet here you are, writing walls of text on a messageboard.

Do you know hip hop culture.

You know that answer is no.

So why you hating on me giving the answer in full you fukk'n toy.

nikka, life and culture do not have short meme character based answers.

You talembout an artist who has had issues for twenty years.
Plus was the original classically trained actor/actress plant in rap.

So stfu and read and stop trying to act like you know.

You, as in yourself can not identify the issues and where they begin with Lauren hill.

If so, where is your commentary ongoing for twenty years.
nikkaz wanna know and have sought out your commentary on the issue for two decades at?

Till you do that.

Worry about the content and length in your response field.

You in here talking like you ever been someone, someone mentions by name as the shyt.

You not that.
so do not critique people you not obviously qualified to critique.


Ol nobody face ass, nikkaz.
When you are fully transparent and really did shyt in full culture based transparency then you can talk. Till then shut yo nobody scarey hide behind the internet face ass up.
Tired of nikkaz who ain't even been successful leaving the house. trying to talk like they winning. You ain't never did shyt and if you did you know it ain't shyt to talk about and ain't got shyt to add.
Which is why you scared to read and mad at length.
Simply because you know your life at length has nuffin to read. A d you know it.

That is why you not known and trying to comment on someone who is known. Ol clout chaser face ass response.

Just your username lets me know you try to troll shyt like someone with no life and never will have a life does. As you are vested in false narratives. So your life is that, a false narrative in basic premise.
Worry about your own life and how you comment in your field.
Right now, you culturally a nobody.
With what your username and the acccompanying field of text says.

Art Barr

 

[JustCKing]

As a former musician, I understand very well how it works. I also understand the power imbalances between established artists and musicians trying to get a break. It is very simple. She agreed one thing, then took advantage of their naivety and weaker position and screwed them over. It has happened thousends of times in the music industry and it continues to happen, because it is an industry build in relationships, where the strong take advantage of the weak.

In the end, it boils down to this: If I send you and Email, telling you I'm a nigerian prince and I need your help with a money transfer, you might be stupid if you fall for it, but that doesn't change the fact that I'm a scam artist who stole money from you.

Lauryn Hill is a thief, she might have done it out of greed or because of her ego and the competition she had going on with wyclef at the time, but she stole their credits and screwed them out of money they deserved for their contribution.

Breh, none of what you said proves anything. You feel Lauryn is a thief with no actual backing other than you thinking she took advantage of the New Ark group even when they are saying that isn't what happened.