Music is the Blackman's Devil?

[Dotcom]

Who needs the KKK or Willie Lynch... or JIM JONES (The Pastor of Jonetown that killed 900 people most of em black) Who needs these type of people when you got your own race killin each other and then nobody wanna blame it on the music... well shyt its not all music but u gotta think about it...
if a person gives you a dirty glass of water and you drink it...u might know the water is dirty and its not good for u but u like the nasty taste..but think about your son or your brother..they might not know clean water from dirty water and you just killing your peoples... so maybe we should look at ourself and then point the finger and say well maybe it is the music...We don't need to fear the DEVIL because the blackman became its own devil ...and its right infront of us

 

[MrPentatonic]

All these problems existed before rap, if rap died tomorrow they will still persist

 

[Dotcom]

All these problems existed before rap, if rap died tomorrow they will still persist

and your right ...ur absolutely right... but do u really think in your heart that the music some of these rappers making is beneficial to the children? not YOU as a grown up but the kids breh... we can't always make excuses that its the govt and the Illuminati if we know all this stuff and its still happening ..the music isn't clean water tho bro....they influencing somebody with the music...u gotta see that man i know everybody not BLIND

 

[MrPentatonic]

It's definitely programming I can't argue against it but I don't think it's our biggest concern

 

[Dotcom]

It's definitely programming I can't argue against it but I don't think it's our biggest concern

Your right it is programmed by a higher power..for the mainstream.. but these underground rappers not in the illuminati and they just making devil music for the hell of it..and its not affecting us grown people because we understand its music.. but our children or little brothers or the youngsters is feeding into the culture because its all over social media.I feel like its doing more bad then good

 

[Triangularbirds]

yall basement preachers are crazy as fukk

 

[Rell84shots]

 

[PhonZhi]

Who needs the KKK or Willie Lynch... or JIM JONES (The Pastor of Jonetown that killed 900 people most of em black) Who needs these type of people when you got your own race killin each other and then nobody wanna blame it on the music... well shyt its not all music but u gotta think about it...
if a person gives you a dirty glass of water and you drink it...u might know the water is dirty and its not good for u but u like the nasty taste..but think about your son or your brother..they might not know clean water from dirty water and you just killing your peoples... so maybe we should look at ourself and then point the finger and say well maybe it is the music...We don't need to fear the DEVIL because the blackman became its own devil ...and its right infront of us

Op you are absolutely correct. Its gasoline thrown on top of an already wild, burning flame. We've been so conditioned mentally that we call this music calling for the genocide of our own race "just entertainment". You really have to be at an elevated state of "awareness" to realize its harmful effects. Most of the posters here are young non-blacks so you'll usually be outnumbered in threads like this. KEEP SPREADING THE MESSAGE!!!

 

[Silver Surfer]

Dont generalize with music....its a culmination of things...social media + certai aspects of hiphop is what is detrimental to the black communtiy

 

[PhonZhi]

It's definitely programming I can't argue against it but I don't think it's our biggest concern

Its actually a waaaay bigger concern than you think. What u just said is the scary part. This mental poison is viewed as "just innocent entertainment" so its dismissed as such, when in all actuality its influencing millions of people GLOBALLY. And im not just talking about us. Its helping to shape and mold the black image WORLDWIDE. People the world over link hiphop culture with black people. And guess what the main theme of hiphop has become:ignorance. This music is demonizing the image of the black race. Yall keep thinking its "innocent entertainment". Its not. Its a tool of oppression being used against us and we dont even know it

 

[ridedolo]

I agree with you OP. Popular music in general is amoral, but with this current hip hop it seems to be extra demonic. I finally listened to the new wayne album and I can't help but be disgusted by what he's talkin about. He has this song talking bout I'm that nikka, nikka this nikka that and i cringe thinking about others singing along to this shyt. I partially agree about the music not being as destructive to adults but It depends on the adult. I personally know people who experimented with drugs only bc of the influence of rap. These are average, educated working adults.

People don't like to talk about it but we have to ask who's running these music corporations, and why are they selecting and propping up the most destructive artists. Id like to see a bit more balance in music personally, without having to search the dark web for it.

 

[wet landscapes]

what is mindblowing to me is that people think of artists as this machine that is programmed to churn out poison
why is it that the "powers that be" "allow" J Cole to release a song about losing his virginity when their purpose is to "corrupt the black community" with violent strung out artists like Chief Keef (who got dropped from his label), Future etc etc
what makes you think that subject matter isn't what they want to rap about?

it's so stupid to just try to snuff out the rappers talking about the shyt going on in the community rather than taking an evaluative look at the community and fix it from there
you want to change the music?
change the environments of future rappers

 

[ridedolo]

what is mindblowing to me is that people think of artists as this machine that is programmed to churn out poison
why is it that the "powers that be" "allow" J Cole to release a song about losing his virginity when their purpose is to "corrupt the black community" with violent strung out artists like Chief Keef (who got dropped from his label), Future etc etc
what makes you think that subject matter isn't what they want to rap about?

it's so stupid to just try to snuff out the rappers talking about the shyt going on in the community rather than taking an evaluative look at the community and fix it from there
you want to change the music?
change the environments of future rappers

But that's the thing. Most of these rappers who are spewing this poison aren't even from the environment they're glorifying. Prodigy from mobb deeps great great grandfather is the founder of morehouse college. He never glorifies that. Or 2 chainz, cam, ross, etc these people attended college yet I never hear any raps about that. For every "innocent" j cole song there's 10 from other artists about strippers, drugs, murder, materialism etc. You can't even deny it. The hottest rapper out right now, future, is an admitted junkie. You don't see the issue w this?

Maybe part of the change that needs to happen in the community first is the mentality. Do u really think positive change can happen while we're singing and dancing to bobby shmurda or nicki minaj? We've normalized and accepted many destructive things since hip hop was "commercialized" imo. Rap isn't the only problem, but it sure perpetuates stereotypes and teaches us to view each other as the enemy. And as phonzi said, out global image has been destroyed by rap/ media in general.

 

[PhonZhi]

what is mindblowing to me is that people think of artists as this machine that is programmed to churn out poison
why is it that the "powers that be" "allow" J Cole to release a song about losing his virginity when their purpose is to "corrupt the black community" with violent strung out artists like Chief Keef (who got dropped from his label), Future etc etc
what makes you think that subject matter isn't what they want to rap about?

it's so stupid to just try to snuff out the rappers talking about the shyt going on in the community rather than taking an evaluative look at the community and fix it from there
you want to change the music?
change the environments of future rappers

And whats mindblowing to me is how cats continually and conviently dismiss the fact that 90% of whats heard on mainstream radio aimed at the black youth promotes a destructive lifestyle. Cats STAY bringing up Cole and Lamar cuz thats LITERALLY the only type of music thats "non poisonous" thats given a mainstream platform. And yallstay bringing up "environments". Well does normal black environments exist? Are all blacks "savages" from the hood? Why is the everyday, normal, intelligent black man/woman not given a chance to shine in the mainstream where they would be visible for our youth to be influenced positively by?

 

[wet landscapes]

But that's the thing. Most of these rappers who are spewing this poison aren't even from the environment they're glorifying. Prodigy from mobb deeps great great grandfather is the founder of morehouse college. He never glorifies that. Or 2 chainz, cam, ross, etc these people attended college yet I never hear any raps about that. For every "innocent" j cole song there's 10 from other artists about strippers, drugs, murder, materialism etc. You can't even deny it. The hottest rapper out right now, future, is an admitted junkie. You don't see the issue w this?

Maybe part of the change that needs to happen in the community first is the mentality. Do u really think positive change can happen while we're singing and dancing to bobby shmurda or nicki minaj? We've normalized and accepted many destructive things since hip hop was "commercialized" imo. Rap isn't the only problem, but it sure perpetuates stereotypes and teaches us to view each other as the enemy. And as phonzi said, the global our image has been destroyed by rap/ media in general.

our global image?
americas global image was already shyt, why would black americans specifically have a good image?
and I think there already is positivity, people just attach themselves to the negative because they want to blame the problems that do exist on some boogeyman, and in america, it's considered cool (in black and white culture) to come from nothing/a rough environment, and then make it
violence has always been glorified, whether it be bloodsport in coliseums in the past to action movies now
same with drugs, from the chinese opium craze to coca leaves in a ton of american products in the past
some of the most celebrated american books/movies are violent/associated with drugs like Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and The Godfather
that's human nature, we love to consume that type of media
now that rap is an established source of that kind of media, you're going to be hard pressed to get rid of it
I understand with things like racism and classism, blacks being heavily associated by that type of media can be seen as harmful but it's a disservice to blacks to think that that's what our culture is
kids growing up have heard their grandparents or parents, jazz records, soul music, r&b, gospel from church, not to mention the typical pop hits
the most damaging thing is to act like in 2015, rap music heavily represents black culture
it's pretty much a pop genre now and doesn't need to be treated like it's PR for blacks anymore