Muslim brehs help me convert to Islam!

Blackking

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1. Farrakhan aint bout shyt. If he was, he wouldnt be alive.

2. The Islamic Caliphate enslaved people breh, thats like saying Europeans enslaved Africans and not Christianity. :usure:

3. Islam was the concept used to control the minds of conquered people, hence the muslim crusades.

I appreciate that Islam gave some young black men the discipline needed.

But the Black man is God and we need to worship God in our own identity like other cultures. This is alot to do with where the self hate stems from.

Black people were around thousands of years before all this shyt, yet we running to these new jacks for spiritual guidance instead of looking within ourselves, the first man on earth

You do you though, I aint even mad if you down with the movement. :yeshrug: but fukk that shyt
Which groups RIGHT NOW.... besides tribes less than 100 strong are practicing ancient African religions???????:usure:


NONE. So is everyone a c00n? :francis:

Nope.. because there are some african islamic groups that still practice that along with AFrican religions and They make up 90% of those that do:usure:


NTM - the majority of black leaders who Started speaking that Original man, first man on Earth shyt were from the UK and USA --- and NEARLY 100% of them were ................:wow: black muslims, like Elijah, like Khalid, etc...... before that is was groups like MST. etc. Nearly every other group of black was either in african being fukked over or where Haitian/Jamican.
Even you yourself have used and are using phrases that you would NOT be using if it wasn't for Black Muslim spin off groups:mjlol:

And Islamic slavery was never justified with Islam. Powerful white groups conducted slavery for a while... in that area. But they took over routes that were already there. plus cacs gone cac depite religion because Islam isnt a religion.
There aren't more than 2 religions.....
there is a million ways to practice but there is only evilness and righteousness. Look at Christians who rape boys, Or black pastors who rape our communities for money, or all the Europeans who go in the thousands to african each year for little girls??? these people are on the evil side..

on the righteous side......... if you're not into social activism like yahweh or muhammad or buddah or Dr. Khalid Muhammad... then you're better off being an atheist.

imo.
 

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Which groups RIGHT NOW.... besides tribes less than 100 strong are practicing ancient African religions???????:usure:


NONE. So is everyone a c00n? :francis:

Nope.. because there are some african islamic groups that still practice that along with AFrican religions and They make up 90% of those that do:usure:


NTM - the majority of black leaders who Started speaking that Original man, first man on Earth shyt were from the UK and USA --- and NEARLY 100% of them were ................:wow: black muslims, like Elijah, like Khalid, etc...... before that is was groups like MST. etc. Nearly every other group of black was either in african being fukked over or where Haitian/Jamican.
Even you yourself have used and are using phrases that you would NOT be using if it wasn't for Black Muslim spin off groups:mjlol:

And Islamic slavery was never justified with Islam. Powerful white groups conducted slavery for a while... in that area. But they took over routes that were already there. plus cacs gone cac depite religion because Islam isnt a religion.
There aren't more than 2 religions.....
there is a million ways to practice but there is only evilness and righteousness. Look at Christians who rape boys, Or black pastors who rape our communities for money, or all the Europeans who go in the thousands to african each year for little girls??? these people are on the evil side..

on the righteous side......... if you're not into social activism like yahweh or muhammad or buddah or Dr. Khalid Muhammad... then you're better off being an atheist.

imo.

Why does it have to be religion? you think you need religion to live a righteous life? :mindblown:

People got shyt confused thinking spiritual guidance equates to religion, thats just what your conquerors told you and you lapping it up.

The rest of your post is pretty much emotionally charged babble. We can just accept to disagree, you on that :cape: ish
 

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lol, do you know how many groups and people have tried to murk him? So many:wow:



Do you know how many thousands of brothers went from nikka to god due to Farrahkan? So many:wow:


"They did not have the power to stop Louis Farrakhan" - NAs:ahh:

:rudy:

Like I said if "they" saw him as a threat, he'd have been killed. He aint about shyt so he's breathing

I said already I appreciated the NOI turnt the lives of many black men around but you still gonna overlook that to continue your rant? :camby:
 

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Like I said if "they" saw him as a threat, he'd have been killed. He aint about shyt so he's breathing

I said already I appreciated the NOI turnt the lives of many black men around but you still gonna overlook that to continue your rant? :camby:
i don't rant, i state facts. :jawalrus:
 

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i don't rant, i state facts. :jawalrus:
My brother,

Even if our religions differ, you don't have to be my enemy. We gotta look at what we have in common and not what divides us apart. I see your avi praising black women, so I know we both down for the same cause.

thats how I roll
 

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:rudy:

Like I said if "they" saw him as a threat, he'd have been killed. He aint about shyt so he's breathing

I said already I appreciated the NOI turnt the lives of many black men around but you still gonna overlook that to continue your rant? :camby:
My Dear Brother...Farrakhan truly has an army around him which is why he still is alive today. The brother simply can not be touched...I think it's backwards thinking and a lack of faith on your behalf to believe that someone can not be truly protected by God. I've studied the teachings of the nation since I was 10 years old...I'll be 32 in September...and I've had an on again off again relationship with the Nation...but the conclusion that I've come to is that one thing you can not say about Farrakhan is that he's a liar...I've studied many hours dissecting and scrutinizing the teachings of Fard, Elijah, and Farrakhan and in every word I can find nothing but truth no matter how far fetched the ideologies are, upon further reading and learning I have found no fault or flaw in the teachings
 

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isn't their judgment on others is historically accurate.

They only show love and have zero hate for others , They simple speak the truth about certain powers, right?

Elijah Muhammad is considered a messager....... specifically messenger to black people in Amerikka. If you look at the history of Islam going back before 400 AD -- every ethnic group either received a messenger or prophet.

In that case, Adam (peace be upon him) was the first messenger. And I do not know what date that would be. To Moses, Noah, Yusuf, Ibrahim and countless other messengers.

Exactly in islam it states that the last messenger is Muhammad (peace be upon him) and no other messenger/ prophet will come after. We (as Muslims) are a part if Muhammad's (peace be upon him) umma. Meaning his group that has received is message.

I may be incorrect but didn't Elijah claim himself to be a prophet or messenger is god?

That is were it differentiates. Muslims cannot belibe Elijah is a prophet or messenger. Maybe an imam or a scholar but nothing more than that.
 

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In that case, Adam (peace be upon him) was the first messenger. And I do not know what date that would be. To Moses, Noah, Yusuf, Ibrahim and countless other messengers.

Exactly in islam it states that the last messenger is Muhammad (peace be upon him) and no other messenger/ prophet will come after. We (as Muslims) are a part if Muhammad's (peace be upon him) umma. Meaning his group that has received is message.

I may be incorrect but didn't Elijah claim himself to be a prophet or messenger is god?

That is were it differentiates. Muslims cannot belibe Elijah is a prophet or messenger. Maybe an imam or a scholar but nothing more than that.

GOAT prophet in the biblical days. :blessed:
 

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In that case, Adam (peace be upon him) was the first messenger. And I do not know what date that would be. To Moses, Noah, Yusuf, Ibrahim and countless other messengers.

Exactly in islam it states that the last messenger is Muhammad (peace be upon him) and no other messenger/ prophet will come after. We (as Muslims) are a part if Muhammad's (peace be upon him) umma. Meaning his group that has received is message.

I may be incorrect but didn't Elijah claim himself to be a prophet or messenger is god?

That is were it differentiates. Muslims cannot belibe Elijah is a prophet or messenger. Maybe an imam or a scholar but nothing more than that.

is an imam, not a messager? :usure:............ imams are so called leaders and some are so called scholars --- when the only true lead is allah and everyone else is a servant and student.

this is what the NOI believes....... so a title is semantics and just a title.

However, the NOI believe in the scientific truths............ Our planet is billions of years old, the universe is Trillions....... time and space do not exist.... we are limited by our own understanding and realities... They believe that man was made in the image of Allah which is the Black Man. They believe that we are brothers with other indigenous peoples in asia ( africa and asia) ......... However we are not brothers with the group that has tortured and is trying to ruin the world and all of Allahs creations which is the subspecies we commonly refer to as the white man.
But we do not hate the white man because love is the true nature of the black man....... so we are just cautious against the devil out of love for our people. :yeshrug:
 

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is an imam, not a messager? :usure:............ imams are so called leaders and some are so called scholars --- when the only true lead is allah and everyone else is a servant and student.

this is what the NOI believes....... so a title is semantics and just a title.

However, the NOI believe in the scientific truths............ Our planet is billions of years old, the universe is Trillions....... time and space do not exist.... we are limited by our own understanding and realities... They believe that man was made in the image of Allah which is the Black Man. They believe that we are brothers with other indigenous peoples in asia ( africa and asia) ......... However we are not brothers with the group that has tortured and is trying to ruin the world and all of Allahs creations which is the subspecies we commonly refer to as the white man.
But we do not hate the white man because love is the true nature of the black man....... so we are just cautious against the devil out of love for our people. :yeshrug:

I guess it is a debate on semantics. Messenger can mean a lot of things to a lot of people. Even if I was a scholar or imam I couldn't consider myself a messenger due to the last one already selected by Allah.

As far as the image goes, to say man was created in the image of god wouldn't that be limiting? In any case I respect everyone's faith/ religion We can agree to disagree.
 
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