TheDarkCloud
Superstar
Thanks for bringing up Bilal. I notice how people who critique Islam overlook him for some reason. Probably overlooking him conveniently because it tears their argument a part about racism in Islam.
Muslim c00n does nothing when an arab says the n word
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Thanks for bringing up Bilal. I notice how people who critique Islam overlook him for some reason. Probably overlooking him conveniently because it tears their argument a part about racism in Islam.
Anti black racism is apart of Islam brehThere's no racism in Islam, kibr, arrogance automatically banishes you from Paradise.
Many Muslims are racist tho, nobody denied this. Have you read this thread or did you just come here to troll?
You going to ignore my last sentence too?
TheDarkCloud
Superstar
Take It In Blood
Banned
Muhammad used to ride down on mark ass busters on this half human half horse creature according to Islamic tradition
Be religious brehs
Buraq - Wikipedia
Be religious brehs
Buraq - Wikipedia
Dominic Decoco
Superstar
Anti black racism is apart of Islam breh
You going to ignore my last sentence too?
"Bu bu but it's slavery in America too. The prison system, amendment 13".
Before these mooslims bring that up, we talking about the slavery y'all brothers got going on with those Libyans. fukking selling them cheap, torturing them, etc. Y'all know already though.
GreenGhxst
Veteran
Never been called a n*gger to my face by anyone
But I have a buddy who's tall, dark black, and athletic looking, and he lives in a white area because he sells
He's been called n*gger at least 10 times in the most random of places, he says he ignores it because either they're packing or they want him to react so he can go to jail
Ignoring it is probably the best option because they aren't going to pull that while they're alone
Don't get hemmed up trying to be a tough guy
Let people talk
But I have a buddy who's tall, dark black, and athletic looking, and he lives in a white area because he sells
He's been called n*gger at least 10 times in the most random of places, he says he ignores it because either they're packing or they want him to react so he can go to jail
Ignoring it is probably the best option because they aren't going to pull that while they're alone
Don't get hemmed up trying to be a tough guy
Let people talk
I Really Mean It
Veteran
But it's not just a name. It's a dehumanizing slur rooted in centuries of genocidal enslavement from which black people have yet to recover. Any non-black that says that shyt to my face might die that day. I guarantee they'll be leaking.
Knicksman20
Superstar
Like most religions you have good people that try to live by the standards of their belief system & bad ones that try to add extra or bring their own personal beliefs into it. That’s where white supremacy & racism always creep in. It happens in any religion because white supremacy is global. And for the record, the coolest Muslim bruthas I’ve ever met are Black/African with some being close friends of mine.
This is why I hate debating these trolls. Their disinformation is like 2-3 lines, but you can't clarify the truth without delving deeply into history, scripture, etc.. It takes far more energy to write a nuanced, well thought--out response than some simple troll job. But I feel compelled to respond
He was illiterate and only spoke Arabic. Only biblical scholars had access to religious scripture back then. What you're saying is that an illiterate man from Arabia had a better grasp of biblical literature, which wasn't even available to the Christian and Jewish masses, than actual students of the Bible. Think about that for a second
He was a scholar in ancient Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew, right?
You think they had Google and wiki back then Breh? They didn't even have paper.
No he didn't.
He died without a penny to his name and his own household would go hungry for days. Sometimes they would survive on dates and bread.
The woman who raised him when his own mother died was black, his adopted son was black, his close friend, Bilal, the first man to make the call to prayer, was black. You had entire Arabian tribes that had blacker skin than me. He literally said that there is no superiority for a white person over a black person in his farewell message before he passed 1400+ years before blacks got their civil rights in America. Yet he was racist?
There are no Islamic laws that discriminate based on skin color, yet your beloved West had such laws up until recently.
If you had an honest bone in your body and wasnt such an effeminate cac, you would've at least tried to reconcile between the clear texts that were posted earlier and the obscure texts that you just posted. Clearly they seem to be contradictory. Instead you ignore those that do not support your position and promote those that do. Is this what your Christianity teaches you? To lie when it benefits you?
You cac trolls resort to obscure texts without even understanding their classification by Islamic scholarship. You pick and choose selectively to paint a certain narrative when the most authentic texts totally refute your nonsense.
Fact is: it is unanimously agreed upon by Muslim scholarship that all forms of tribalism, and especially racism, are strictly forbidden in Islam. Go to any fatwa site in English and see what it says. Legally, racism is strictly prohibited which means that Muslims who are racist are acting outside the confines of the law.
This is how we view our prophet and the example that he set. You can dig up these obscure texts all you want, but they do not change how those of us who actually follow his traditions view him and what we believe to be true.
False, there was no organized black slave trade in Arabia during the time of the Prophet pbuh. The slaves who were in Mecca were predominantly captives of war. Some were Abyssinian, others were from other Arabian tribes, some were Persian (one of the most prominent companions of the Prophet pbuh was a freed Persian slave), some were Byzantine etc.. The East African slave trade began centuries after the death of the Prophet pbuh. You need to get your facts right.
The Abyssinians slaves were captives from Abraha's (Abyssinian general who invaded Yemen and marched in Mecca shortly before the Prophet's birth) army. The Meccans had good trade relations with Abyssinia after that, which is why the first hijrah was to that land.
Where did you get this?
Way before the Europeans taught blacks to worship a white Jesus, the Prophet pbuh taught us that Jesus was a dark skinned man. He also taught us that Moses had black skin
He said that the anti-Christ will be a short, pale skinned man. That doesn't mean that all whites are evil.
He described Turks as people who have flat faces, small eyes and wear clothes that is made of animal hair (as far as I remember). This is before the Arabs came into contact with Turkic tribes of central Asia. Describing people by their features to an Arab crowd who might be unfamiliar with them is not racist.
This has nothing to do with skin color, you ignoramus
Black people can have radiant faces and white people can have faces that are dulled and which emanate no light.
It's debated. Even those who say she was 6 state that the marriage was consummated when she became sexually mature. At any rate, this is a non-issue for anyone who has studied ancient history. Up until recently, sexual maturity = onset of puberty. It was the norm all over the world and if you trace your own genealogy, you'll find many of your grandmothers were younger than the current legal age of consent in the West.
According to the socio-cultural climate at the time (globally), he consummated his marriage with an adult woman. What you are doing is taking modern standards and applying them retroactively, which is not fair. That's like saying Noah pbuh committed a crime by building an ark without the necessary permit from the government
Virgin Mary is said to have been 12 or 13 when she gave birth to Jesus pbuh by the way
The Prophet pbuh married his first wife when he was 25 and she was 40-45 (if I recall correctly). He stayed married to her until she passed away during the boycott in Mecca. To make him out to be some type of perv is disingenuous at best. All the other marriages after that were to establish bonds with the tribes of Arabia, or to marry widowed women.
Aisha was the daughter of his best friend and most prominent supporter, Abu Bakr, and marrying her cemented their familial bonds as was customary in Arabia. Aisha also grew to become one of most prominent scholars in Islam and (I believe) the thirdt most cited source of Hadith. Their marriage was Divine inspiration. There's a lot of issues that can only be resolved legally in Islam, because of Aisha.
Their marriage wasn't even problematized until the 20th century when the cultural norms surrounding the legal of consent had changed in Europe.
Up until the early 20th century, Europeans were wifing up 5-10 year olds.
Age of Consent in European & American History
Age of consent in Delaware was like 7 years old until the early 1900's.
And with that said, I'm out of this thread. People who are genuinely curious and want to learn more are free to contact me by PM and I will answer to the best of my ability.
Peace
He was illiterate and only spoke Arabic. Only biblical scholars had access to religious scripture back then. What you're saying is that an illiterate man from Arabia had a better grasp of biblical literature, which wasn't even available to the Christian and Jewish masses, than actual students of the Bible. Think about that for a second
He was a scholar in ancient Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew, right?
You think they had Google and wiki back then Breh? They didn't even have paper.
he owned black slaves himself
No he didn't.
He died without a penny to his name and his own household would go hungry for days. Sometimes they would survive on dates and bread.
The woman who raised him when his own mother died was black, his adopted son was black, his close friend, Bilal, the first man to make the call to prayer, was black. You had entire Arabian tribes that had blacker skin than me. He literally said that there is no superiority for a white person over a black person in his farewell message before he passed 1400+ years before blacks got their civil rights in America. Yet he was racist?
There are no Islamic laws that discriminate based on skin color, yet your beloved West had such laws up until recently.
If you had an honest bone in your body and wasnt such an effeminate cac, you would've at least tried to reconcile between the clear texts that were posted earlier and the obscure texts that you just posted. Clearly they seem to be contradictory. Instead you ignore those that do not support your position and promote those that do. Is this what your Christianity teaches you? To lie when it benefits you?
You cac trolls resort to obscure texts without even understanding their classification by Islamic scholarship. You pick and choose selectively to paint a certain narrative when the most authentic texts totally refute your nonsense.
Fact is: it is unanimously agreed upon by Muslim scholarship that all forms of tribalism, and especially racism, are strictly forbidden in Islam. Go to any fatwa site in English and see what it says. Legally, racism is strictly prohibited which means that Muslims who are racist are acting outside the confines of the law.
This is how we view our prophet and the example that he set. You can dig up these obscure texts all you want, but they do not change how those of us who actually follow his traditions view him and what we believe to be true.
False, there was no organized black slave trade in Arabia during the time of the Prophet pbuh. The slaves who were in Mecca were predominantly captives of war. Some were Abyssinian, others were from other Arabian tribes, some were Persian (one of the most prominent companions of the Prophet pbuh was a freed Persian slave), some were Byzantine etc.. The East African slave trade began centuries after the death of the Prophet pbuh. You need to get your facts right.
The Abyssinians slaves were captives from Abraha's (Abyssinian general who invaded Yemen and marched in Mecca shortly before the Prophet's birth) army. The Meccans had good trade relations with Abyssinia after that, which is why the first hijrah was to that land.
Where did you get this?
Way before the Europeans taught blacks to worship a white Jesus, the Prophet pbuh taught us that Jesus was a dark skinned man. He also taught us that Moses had black skin
He said that the anti-Christ will be a short, pale skinned man. That doesn't mean that all whites are evil.
He described Turks as people who have flat faces, small eyes and wear clothes that is made of animal hair (as far as I remember). This is before the Arabs came into contact with Turkic tribes of central Asia. Describing people by their features to an Arab crowd who might be unfamiliar with them is not racist.
This has nothing to do with skin color, you ignoramus
Black people can have radiant faces and white people can have faces that are dulled and which emanate no light.
also wifed up 6 year olds
It's debated. Even those who say she was 6 state that the marriage was consummated when she became sexually mature. At any rate, this is a non-issue for anyone who has studied ancient history. Up until recently, sexual maturity = onset of puberty. It was the norm all over the world and if you trace your own genealogy, you'll find many of your grandmothers were younger than the current legal age of consent in the West.
According to the socio-cultural climate at the time (globally), he consummated his marriage with an adult woman. What you are doing is taking modern standards and applying them retroactively, which is not fair. That's like saying Noah pbuh committed a crime by building an ark without the necessary permit from the government
Virgin Mary is said to have been 12 or 13 when she gave birth to Jesus pbuh by the way
The Prophet pbuh married his first wife when he was 25 and she was 40-45 (if I recall correctly). He stayed married to her until she passed away during the boycott in Mecca. To make him out to be some type of perv is disingenuous at best. All the other marriages after that were to establish bonds with the tribes of Arabia, or to marry widowed women.
Aisha was the daughter of his best friend and most prominent supporter, Abu Bakr, and marrying her cemented their familial bonds as was customary in Arabia. Aisha also grew to become one of most prominent scholars in Islam and (I believe) the thirdt most cited source of Hadith. Their marriage was Divine inspiration. There's a lot of issues that can only be resolved legally in Islam, because of Aisha.
Their marriage wasn't even problematized until the 20th century when the cultural norms surrounding the legal of consent had changed in Europe.
Up until the early 20th century, Europeans were wifing up 5-10 year olds.
Age of Consent in European & American History
Age of consent in Delaware was like 7 years old until the early 1900's.
And with that said, I'm out of this thread. People who are genuinely curious and want to learn more are free to contact me by PM and I will answer to the best of my ability.
Peace
Moody
Faroole ii geeya
1)The first place Islam went during the time of Prophet Muhammad was Africa. The Prophet Muhammad personally asked the King of Abyssinia to house the early Muslims for protection because Mecca was unsafe for them.
2)The Prophet Muhammad personally wrote a letter to the King of Abyssinia inviting him to Islam and he accepted. The early history of Islam has everything to do with black people and Africa lol.
3)If it wasn't for the Negus in Abyssinia the Muslims would have been crushed.
You Alt-right weirdos posing as pro-blacks to sew discord among black people is retarded and I done peeped your game
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Islam is not only a black religion. Islam is a global religion.
4) Most Muslims in world are not Arab. Arabs are a minority when it comes to Muslim population [source]
5) TLR is dead and is run by alt-right trolls. I hope y'all aren't falling for their disinformation.
You're right.
Only a cac would use those talking points knowing where they originate.
Anti black racism is apart of Islam breh
You going to ignore my last sentence too?
No it's not and you are in no position to be making such statements. Humble yourself and know your place, man..how are you going to tell me about something that I'm far more knowledgeable in than you?
You've read a few blogs and all of a sudden you feel bold enough to try and school me?
I've been Muslim for 30 years. I'm well-educated and have a decent grasp on my religion as a way of life. I don't need some random coli breh to tell me anything.
The level of arrogance of some of you losers is unbelievable. It's why I can almost guarantee that you will never amount to anything in your life tbh.. you speak with so much authority, yet you know so little.
I'm putting you on ignore for this Breh. I'm sorry.. but this is just too much.
Dominic Decoco
Superstar
This is why I hate debating these trolls. Their disinformation is like 2-3 lines, but you can't clarify the truth without delving deeply into history, scripture, etc.. It takes far more energy to write a nuanced, well thought--out response than some simple troll job. But I feel compelled to respond
He was illiterate and only spoke Arabic. Only biblical scholars had access to religious scripture back then. What you're saying is that an illiterate man from Arabia had a better grasp of biblical literature, which wasn't even available to the Christian and Jewish masses, than actual students of the Bible. Think about that for a second
He was a scholar in ancient Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew, right?
You think they had Google and wiki back then Breh? They didn't even have paper.
No he didn't.
He died without a penny to his name and his own household would go hungry for days. Sometimes they would survive on dates and bread.
The woman who raised him when his own mother died was black, his adopted son was black, his close friend, Bilal, the first man to make the call to prayer, was black. You had entire Arabian tribes that had blacker skin than me. He literally said that there is no superiority for a white person over a black person in his farewell message before he passed 1400+ years before blacks got their civil rights in America. Yet he was racist?
There are no Islamic laws that discriminate based on skin color, yet your beloved West had such laws up until recently.
If you had an honest bone in your body and wasnt such an effeminate cac, you would've at least tried to reconcile between the clear texts that were posted earlier and the obscure texts that you just posted. Clearly they seem to be contradictory. Instead you ignore those that do not support your position and promote those that do. Is this what your Christianity teaches you? To lie when it benefits you?
You cac trolls resort to obscure texts without even understanding their classification by Islamic scholarship. You pick and choose selectively to paint a certain narrative when the most authentic texts totally refute your nonsense.
Fact is: it is unanimously agreed upon by Muslim scholarship that all forms of tribalism, and especially racism, are strictly forbidden in Islam. Go to any fatwa site in English and see what it says. Legally, racism is strictly prohibited which means that Muslims who are racist are acting outside the confines of the law.
This is how we view our prophet and the example that he set. You can dig up these obscure texts all you want, but they do not change how those of us who actually follow his traditions view him and what we believe to be true.
False, there was no organized black slave trade in Arabia during the time of the Prophet pbuh. The slaves who were in Mecca were predominantly captives of war. Some were Abyssinian, others were from other Arabian tribes, some were Persian (one of the most prominent companions of the Prophet pbuh was a freed Persian slave), some were Byzantine etc.. The East African slave trade began centuries after the death of the Prophet pbuh. You need to get your facts right.
The Abyssinians slaves were captives from Abraha's (Abyssinian general who invaded Yemen and marched in Mecca shortly before the Prophet's birth) army. The Meccans had good trade relations with Abyssinia after that, which is why the first hijrah was to that land.
Where did you get this?
Way before the Europeans taught blacks to worship a white Jesus, the Prophet pbuh taught us that Jesus was a dark skinned man. He also taught us that Moses had black skin
He said that the anti-Christ will be a short, pale skinned man. That doesn't mean that all whites are evil.
He described Turks as people who have flat faces, small eyes and wear clothes that is made of animal hair (as far as I remember). This is before the Arabs came into contact with Turkic tribes of central Asia. Describing people by their features to an Arab crowd who might be unfamiliar with them is not racist.
This has nothing to do with skin color, you ignoramus
Black people can have radiant faces and white people can have faces that are dulled and which emanate no light.
It's debated. Even those who say she was 6 state that the marriage was consummated when she became sexually mature. At any rate, this is a non-issue for anyone who has studied ancient history. Up until recently, sexual maturity = onset of puberty. It was the norm all over the world and if you trace your own genealogy, you'll find many of your grandmothers were younger than the current legal age of consent in the West.
According to the socio-cultural climate at the time (globally), he consummated his marriage with an adult woman. What you are doing is taking modern standards and applying them retroactively, which is not fair. That's like saying Noah pbuh committed a crime by building an ark without the necessary permit from the government
Virgin Mary is said to have been 12 or 13 when she gave birth to Jesus pbuh by the way
The Prophet pbuh married his first wife when he was 25 and she was 40-45 (if I recall correctly). He stayed married to her until she passed away during the boycott in Mecca. To make him out to be some type of perv is disingenuous at best. All the other marriages after that were to establish bonds with the tribes of Arabia, or to marry widowed women.
Aisha was the daughter of his best friend and most prominent supporter, Abu Bakr, and marrying her cemented their familial bonds as was customary in Arabia. Aisha also grew to become one of most prominent scholars in Islam and (I believe) the thirdt most cited source of Hadith. Their marriage was Divine inspiration. There's a lot of issues that can only be resolved legally in Islam, because of Aisha.
Their marriage wasn't even problematized until the 20th century when the cultural norms surrounding the legal of consent had changed in Europe.
Up until the early 20th century, Europeans were wifing up 5-10 year olds.
Age of Consent in European & American History
Age of consent in Delaware was like 7 years old until the early 1900's.
And with that said, I'm out of this thread. People who are genuinely curious and want to learn more are free to contact me by PM and I will answer to the best of my ability.
Peace
Which Mohammed are you referring to? Cause if you went all the way back to the beginning and you're talking about Mohammed Ibn Abdullah then your whole post is very misinformed.
Not a single fact in that post. Research on how Islam started. The Mohammed I mentioned was literally a gotdamn camel driver and traveled. A caravan driver who met Jews amd Christians and they influenced him to start that Islam religion.
Mortal1
Superstar
This is why I can’t look down on the NOI too hard because they were the first exposure our commmnity had with Islam. That’s the way my parents got into the religion and later they found out about Warrif Deen Muhammad and learned of the true Islam.
Another nikka who wants to teach me about the person whose life I've been studying and trying to emulate for 30 years
Alright man. You got it figured out. You win
motion order
Mercenary
Louis Farrakhan is not some small-minded lightweight, stop it.
You obviously don't understand some possible residual effects of being oppressed and in a state of being a perpetual 3rd class citizen.
Keep your back-handed compliments
When theses Black Brothers and Sisters "find the Deen," their Islam becomes strictly religion. They're no longer interested, let alone active, in the improvement and development of the broader Black community.
Orthodox Islam has no program for Black people in America, and from that "That's on you" statement, don't really understand the condition and circumstances.