Muslim Travel Ban Thread (6/26: SCOTUS voted 5-4 to uphold the administration’s ban)

[Ronnie Lott]

Finding ways to circumvent laws doesn't change the actual laws.

Let's try this again

Please give me a list of white officers who have been punished by the law: arrested, prosecuted, found guilty and sentenced for a significant amount of time for killing a black person. I'll wait

 

[Ms. Elaine]

Black people with money aren't excused from dealing with racism and white supremacy

Capitalism has little to do with racism and WS

Black people with money generally adhere to white supremacy themselves.

It's not even about the individual, it's about acting as a collective. Which most black people don't.

I can't think of a single powerful/influential political black interest group.

 

[Ms. Elaine]

Gatdamn you're extremely dense if you belived that

You think racism trumps (the ability to make someone) money in this country?

 

[Sukairain]

Black people with money aren't excused from dealing with racism and white supremacy

Capitalism has little to do with racism and WS

I'm saying, with the Muslim ban, a lot of executive types, a lot of upper class and wealthy people were left out in the cold. They had the resources and the connections to reach out and set some of this reaction up, ACLU and whatnot.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Black people with money generally adhere to white supremacy themselves.

It's not even about the individual, it's about acting as a collective. Which most black people don't.

I can't think of a single powerful/influential political black interest group.

Black people with money are still subject to dealing with WS. See:

Oprah
Mike Vick
Bill Cosby

And now you're changing the subject and modifying your argument

 

[Ronnie Lott]

You think racism trumps (the ability to make someone) money in this country?

I'm saying that it doesn't matter how much money a black person makes, it ultimately doesn't shield you from racism /WS

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I'm saying, with the Muslim ban, a lot of executive types, a lot of upper class and wealthy people were left out in the cold. They had the resources and the connections to reach out and set some of this reaction up, ACLU and whatnot.

So you're actually proving my point. Money didn't protect them from WS

Right

 

[Ms. Elaine]

I'm saying, with the Muslim ban, a lot of executive types, a lot of upper class and wealthy people were left out in the cold. They had the resources and the connections to reach out and set some of this reaction up, ACLU and whatnot.

They don't even have to set up this reaction themselves. A lot of people are already working on their behalf because like you said, a lot of the upper echelon of this society are being affected by this.

I remember reading earlier today that Google sent an emergency order demanding that all their executives who might be affected by this return to the States immediately.


If cops were shooting black people with the same kind of credentials, I can guarantee that they wouldn't be getting off scotch-free.

 

[Sukairain]

Black people with money are still subject to dealing with WS. See:

Oprah
Mike Vick
Bill Cosby

And now you're changing the subject and modifying your argument

I don't think that's the point, the point is that ain't shyt gets done for free (except maybe for whites). It's not goodwill or people doing things for Muslims because they love them. Someone somewhere got paid behind this and that's why the response has been so swift

 

[Ms. Elaine]

I'm saying that it doesn't matter how much money a black person makes, it ultimately doesn't shield you from racism /WS

You keep talking about "a black person" - singular, not plural. And that's the problem right there.

And it's also a problem that most of black wealth predominately comes from the entertainment and sports industry and even then, not from position of power (ie owning a team, production company etc).

Tokenism doesn't help in the fight against WS but I wasn't aware that that was the argument that was being made here.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

 

[Ronnie Lott]

You keep talking about "a black person" - singular, not plural. And that's the problem right there.

Tokenism doesn't hep in the fight against WS but I wasn't aware that that was the argument that was being made here.

Ok black people then. How's that

And I see how you keep dodging my original question


Just say you am can't name any

 

[ORDER_66]

Anybody got any information on what's happening after this stay by the federal judge what is trump gonna do after this?!?

 

[Sukairain]

So you're actually proving my point. Money didn't protect them from WS

Right

Exactly, I'm saying money gives you half a chance to buy your way out of trouble. Otherwise you don't have shyt

 

[Ms. Elaine]

Ok black people then. How's that

And I see how you keep dodging my original question


Just say you am can't name any

Can you name any prominent black person that was shot and the cop got off?


Answer that question and I'll answer yours.


The outrage over this ban has little to do with actual helpless refugees or people actually caring about Muslims. It's about the money that American companies are losing by losing their CEOs and high-skilled employees.