The Odum of Ala Igbo
Hail Biafra!
Igbos, Hausas and Yorubas look different - very often
My AADOS brothers, lots of Africans apologized for slavery, give it a rest
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Igbos, Hausas and Yorubas look different - very often
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
I never claimed they were white because they're not black.
Actually "black" people in America do which is why they get mad when someone who appears to be black, says they arent black.
I never suggested who you should or shouldnt fukk with. I said (or implied) that tying yourself to a group of people based on skin color is foolish. There were black people that helped cacs take over other black people. So yea, fukk with people who fukk with you. Do not fukk with people based on skin color because there are people of your skin color who do not fukk with you... Not that hard...
Bruh I gave my stance based off whats being discussed in this thread and by you. I never suggested I didnt "like" the topic being discussed. You're just in your feelings because you tie so much of your identity to being a color and have no nationality that you can tie yourself to... Sorry
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
They still look similar and an outsider would not be able to tell the difference easily...
The Odum of Ala Igbo
Hail Biafra!
Agree to disagree about the first half of the sentence
YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy
Superstar
Black people in America do not use black as a nationality. No one does. You seem to not know the difference between race and nationality. My father is Ethiopian and recognizes he is black. My mother is Haitian and recognizes she is black.I never claimed they were white because they're not black.
Actually "black" people in America do which is why they get mad when someone who appears to be black, says they arent black.
I never suggested who you should or shouldnt fukk with. I said (or implied) that tying yourself to a group of people based on skin color is foolish. There were black people that helped cacs take over other black people. So yea, fukk with people who fukk with you. Do not fukk with people based on skin color because there are people of your skin color who do not fukk with you... Not that hard...
Bruh I gave my stance based off whats being discussed in this thread and by you. I never suggested I didnt "like" the topic being discussed. You're just in your feelings because you tie so much of your identity to being a color and have no nationality that you can tie yourself to... Sorry
Nationality and race. Read up on it.
I am black. I fukk with black people. If people are confused like you about race, I can't help you.
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
Race definition: group of people thought to share certain distinctive physical characteristics, such as facial structure or skin color.
Its no different than grouping tall people together. Or overweight. Its a meaningless categorization because people in the same "race" can have differing cultures (i.e. Yorubas/Igbos) that make them at odds. Now nationality/ethnicity narrows things more down:
Nationality definition: the status of belonging to a particular nation.
Ethnicity definition: the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition.
Black people need to find their nationality/ethnicity and stop trying to lump everybody under a "black" umbrella. I've already explained that people have called themselves "black" for centuries so thats nothing new. What they also had to go along with that was a nationality/ethnicity which most "black" people in America do not have. The fact that you can state your father and mother's nationalities shows that you're not even relevant in who Im talking about.
Im not confused about anything. Im just explaining to you that people who are "black" in appearance will not fukk with you just because you look similar to them so its foolish to say "I fukk with black people" as if all skin folk are kin folk. You do you though, as you seem more in your feelings about this than me...
YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy
Superstar
If black people don't want to fukk with me, that's fine. Everyone has their own philosophy. Doesn't change my philosophy on how I choose to interact with and view other Black people. I'm pro-black. Black love and Black unity is what I believe in.
You're posting paragraphs advising me to move against my pro-black position but I'm in my feelings? You seem bothered....
Cobalt Sire
All Star
The main reason I'm not mad at African countries for the slave trade is because: 1. They didn't make much off of it and 2. They got colonized and lost damn near everything they got from it.
The trans-saharan and Trans-atlantic slave trade are both huge failures on the part of our ancestors. The same countries that allowed and supported slavery, ended up getting colonized. "They were selling POWs." Some were doing that, but even then, isn't the enemy tribe selling your people too? So both tribes are killing each other and getting their people taken into slavery by white people, and no one thought that was stupid? Boy I tell ya. That was some stupid shyt that benefited no one but white people. I seriously can't imagine another group of people being that stupid, but apparently the South Americans got played the same way.
The trans-saharan and Trans-atlantic slave trade are both huge failures on the part of our ancestors. The same countries that allowed and supported slavery, ended up getting colonized. "They were selling POWs." Some were doing that, but even then, isn't the enemy tribe selling your people too? So both tribes are killing each other and getting their people taken into slavery by white people, and no one thought that was stupid? Boy I tell ya. That was some stupid shyt that benefited no one but white people. I seriously can't imagine another group of people being that stupid, but apparently the South Americans got played the same way.
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
Theres people that believe in the boogeyman or Santa Claus. Those things dont exist just as "black" unity will never exist. Only unity that will happen is one based on nationalities/or cultures.
Im not advising you to do anything. This is a forum where people post to share ideas, positions and shoot the shyt.. I posted about the thread topic and your view on things and you suggested that if I dont like whats being discussed I can leave... Im good, are you?
T'krm
Superstar
Unfortunately this is also a forum where many stick to rigid, hyocritical dogma, and are unaccepting of those that don't fir their narrow view of reality.
Cobalt Sire
All Star
Hating Africans, especially modern day ones, for the trans-atlantic slave trade is not really understanding what happened. There were a lot of African people against it. Many watched as their friends, family, and countrymen got taken away. Most were afraid they were next. African leaders that participated in the slave trade justified it by saying they were capturing and enslaving enemy tribes, but those enemy tribes were doing the same. So even if the African leaders weren't selling their own directly, they did it indirectly, by supporting the system. If they didn't support it, white people would have had less slaves.
Then there's the fact those same white merchants were just randomly capturing any black person they could find, the African leaders knew this, and still did business with them. At no point did they say "Hmm, these white people are scumbags, taking any black person they can find, and dehumanizing our people. They should be dealt with." Nope. Their people disappearing is the other tribes fault, not white people. I'll continue to do business with them.
Then there's the fact those same white merchants were just randomly capturing any black person they could find, the African leaders knew this, and still did business with them. At no point did they say "Hmm, these white people are scumbags, taking any black person they can find, and dehumanizing our people. They should be dealt with." Nope. Their people disappearing is the other tribes fault, not white people. I'll continue to do business with them.
YoungMoneyCashMoneyBoy
Superstar
Because something doesnt exist, it doesn't mean you don't work towards it. Freedom didnt exist for black people at one time in this country. It couldve been seen as santa clause and the boogey man. Luckily, you werent around to rally them to strive for nothing.
You didnt post about the topic. You quoted my post and the position I have against non blacks. You then brought up how things are done outside of america to which I said we are in America and will discuss affairs as they relate to America since this is a primarily Black american board. You then continued to preach against the term black, black unity and anything related to black and even said black is used as a nationality and not as a race. You seem hellbent on speaking down on all things black. I'm good love, are you?
What’s with this username?
For years people said there would never be a black president. You doubters of everything are good at quality control jobs. That's what I would hire you for. To point out all the wrong things all day as I improve them. Poeple like you are useful for that.
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
That’s completely different since there was once a time freedom did exist for black people. There has NEVER been a time where “Black” people globally were united under one cause. You only want to unite with others because you don’t know who YOU are. And I use “you” meaning those of us in America who cannot definitively give their father and mothers nationality/tribal affiliation like you can
I’ll continue to speak down on the usage of “Black” seeing as it has been used in America to cover the nationalities and tribal affiliations that “blacks” once had. We shouldn’t be basing unity off n skin color but on culture and values. And this is directed at people who cannot definitively state their parents lineage like you can..
And if I’m not on the threads topic then I guess we can say I’m on topic to where this convo led to.