My Posse's On Broadway: Official NY Knicks 2016-2017 Season Thread

[storyteller]

How much u think the Knicks should offer Him?

Honestly, I'm on team rebuild so I think they should let him go to a team that's in a position to win. In this new cap era putting up 20+ points per game alone will have him commanding a big chunk of our cap space if we wanted to keep him. You don't spend that when you're not planning on winning right away. The only reason I could see his price dropping below 15 per is that there are a lot of PG's on the market and the best prospects in the draft are PG's too. So depending on what teams are looking for, maybe he comes in at a cheaper total but Rajon Rondo is getting 14 million right now...Rose is probably gonna be expensive if that's how much you gotta spend on Rondo.

 

[I.V.]

Im not a homer

You're right I'm tryna dream the dream here! Honestly though, at this point the return is secondary to the fact that moving Melo would put us down there with the cellar dwellers. As much as heads complain about him, Melo's still good enough to put the tank in jeopardy.

Yeah, I mean -- the real issue is that he's not good enough to lift this team to any useful height (not that many single players would be with this roster) -- and he's too good for this team to land a top 5 pick with.

I don't understand it either, people always bring up how he's always hurt and Missing games but I think this is his healthiest season since his MVP year. He's been improving Stat wise all season. I agree with you though his assist should be higher and he needs to improve on other parts of his games. But to be honest I think this might be the first time he hasn't been a first option in his career

A couple things:

• He's shooting 23% from 3. And 12% in January. Which is abysmal in any era, and is unforgivable in the current NBA.
• He's been very very bad at the end of games, blowing layups, taking bad shots, and turning the ball over.
• He's a horrendous defender. Atrocious. And there is no reason to believe that will get better.

I don't have a real beef with him. I saw this move as a roster reset, and essentially, a tryout. There is no reason he should fit into their longterm plans. He's not even a top 15 guard, and this is his best season in three years. Ultimately, the Noah deal is worse than the trade/1 year deal on rose. But anybody who wants him in their longterm plans, when you're a rebuilding team, is crazy. He just doesn't have it anymore. He's not explosive enough to dominate without a jumper, like he used to be... and his jumper has gotten WORSE. The form has shifted, he hangs in the air too long before letting it go, he throws it right at the hoop. There's just a lot of work that needs to be done to get him back to being a near-average shooter.

I have always rooted for Rose. I still like watching him attack, because he's relentless, and even with diminished speed/explosion, he has incredible change of pace. But he is not a player you can build on. There is no reason to believe he'll stay healthy, and no reason to believe he'll get much better than this.

No shame in that, but he has to basically take on a Jeremy Lin role for somebody, and he's gonna want too much money. I'd love to see him go to a good team, where there is a structure for him, and he can adjust to his new reality/role. He probably can't play for the spurs/warriors due to his shortcomings... but, I dunno -- Go play for Doc with the Clips or something.

 

[Dreamzeedream]

Yeah, I mean -- the real issue is that he's not good enough to lift this team to any useful height (not that many single players would be with this roster) -- and he's too good for this team to land a top 5 pick with.




A couple things:

• He's shooting 23% from 3. And 12% in January. Which is abysmal in any era, and is unforgivable in the current NBA.
• He's been very very bad at the end of games, blowing layups, taking bad shots, and turning the ball over.
• He's a horrendous defender. Atrocious. And there is no reason to believe that will get better.

I don't have a real beef with him. I saw this move as a roster reset, and essentially, a tryout. There is no reason he should fit into their longterm plans. He's not even a top 15 guard, and this is his best season in three years. Ultimately, the Noah deal is worse than the trade/1 year deal on rose. But anybody who wants him in their longterm plans, when you're a rebuilding team, is crazy. He jymore. He's not explosive enough to dominate without a jumper, like he used to be... and his jumper has gotten WORSE. The form has shifted, he hangs in the air too long before letting it go, he throws it right at the hoop. There's just a lot of work that needs to be done to get him back to being a near-average shooter.

I have always rooted for Rose. I still like watching him attack, because he's relentless, and even with diminished speed/explosion, he has incredible change of pace. But he is not a player you can build on. There is no reason to believe he'll stay healthy, and no reason to believe he'll get much better than this.

No shame in that, but he has to basically take on a Jeremy Lin role for somebody, and he's gonna want too much money. I'd love to see him go to a good team, where there is a structure for him, and he can adjust to his new reality/role. He probably can't play for the spurs/warriors due to his shortcomings... but, I dunno -- Go play for Doc with the Clips or something.

That's not true. Curry,Westbrook,Irving,Dame,Wall,kemba, Lowery, and mike Conley,Cp3,and Thomas << those are the only names u can mention. And I'll take him over Conley and mabey Lowery



He been healthy, the whole season. He might sat out for soreness and other reasons(Family issues he says) but other than that. There has been no injury problem.



His jumper has always been broken. he would benfit awhole lot if. He could step his midrange game up and that's what he been doing




I do agree with you about the rebuilding thing. At this point Rose should consider joining a Contender or a team that's a few pieces away from being one.


He can still be a Huge/Big contribute to a Team. Can he be a 1 option like he once was?? Idk.. Mabey not.. But he still can go and he's proving,
In the last 8 games Rose is averaging 21.5 points, 4.6 assists, 4.1 rebounds, 2.6 turnovers while shooting 50 percent from the field and 88 percent from the free-throw line.
His three point shooting needs to improve. He does have his flaws but I don't see how u can say he doesn't have it anymore


I do agree he needs to work on other parts of his game

 

[pimpineasy]

That delusion, that dedication, that stupidity, so fukking impressive

the vulgarity in the stupidy

 

[pimpineasy]

Yeah, I mean -- the real issue is that he's not good enough to lift this team to any useful height (not that many single players would be with this roster) -- and he's too good for this team to land a top 5 pick with.




A couple things:

• He's shooting 23% from 3. And 12% in January. Which is abysmal in any era, and is unforgivable in the current NBA.
• He's been very very bad at the end of games, blowing layups, taking bad shots, and turning the ball over.
• He's a horrendous defender. Atrocious. And there is no reason to believe that will get better.

I don't have a real beef with him. I saw this move as a roster reset, and essentially, a tryout. There is no reason he should fit into their longterm plans. He's not even a top 15 guard, and this is his best season in three years. Ultimately, the Noah deal is worse than the trade/1 year deal on rose. But anybody who wants him in their longterm plans, when you're a rebuilding team, is crazy. He just doesn't have it anymore. He's not explosive enough to dominate without a jumper, like he used to be... and his jumper has gotten WORSE. The form has shifted, he hangs in the air too long before letting it go, he throws it right at the hoop. There's just a lot of work that needs to be done to get him back to being a near-average shooter.

I have always rooted for Rose. I still like watching him attack, because he's relentless, and even with diminished speed/explosion, he has incredible change of pace. But he is not a player you can build on. There is no reason to believe he'll stay healthy, and no reason to believe he'll get much better than this.

No shame in that, but he has to basically take on a Jeremy Lin role for somebody, and he's gonna want too much money. I'd love to see him go to a good team, where there is a structure for him, and he can adjust to his new reality/role. He probably can't play for the spurs/warriors due to his shortcomings... but, I dunno -- Go play for Doc with the Clips or something.

agree 100% with all points

i wonder if the suns medical staff could restore him

 

[pimpineasy]

That's not true. Curry,Westbrook,Irving,Dame,Wall,kemba, Lowery, and mike Conley,Cp3,and Thomas << those are the only names u can mention. And I'll take him over Conley and mabey Lowery



He been healthy, the whole season. He might sat out for soreness and other reasons(Family issues he says) but other than that. There has been no injury problem.



His jumper has always been broken. he would benfit awhole lot if. He could step his midrange game up and that's what he been doing




I do agree with you about the rebuilding thing. At this point Rose should consider joining a Contender or a team that's a few pieces away from being one.


He can still be a Huge/Big contribute to a Team. Can he be a 1 option like he once was?? Idk.. Mabey not.. But he still can go and he's proving,
In the last 8 games Rose is averaging 21.5 points, 4.6 assists, 4.1 rebounds, 2.6 turnovers while shooting 50 percent from the field and 88 percent from the free-throw line.
His three point shooting needs to improve. He does have his flaws but I don't see how u can say he doesn't have it anymore


I do agree he needs to work on other parts of his game

wait you would take rose over conley?

 

[BoogieDown23]

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[Dreamzeedream]

wait you would take rose over conley?

Hell yea

 

[I.V.]

wait you would take rose over conley?

Dog... AND lowery[sic].

 

[Shogun]

We offered Melo for Love and the Cavs said nah


How's many Ls can one man take?

 

[ThaBronxBully]

We offered Melo for Love and the Cavs said nah


How's many Ls can one man take?

TBH Love Is A Better Fit For Them, It Wouldn't Make Sense For Them Basketball Wise

 

[DPresidential]

So, Melo and NY are okay with a trade to Cleveland...

Does that still not dispel alot of the shyt people have been claiming about Melo's personality?

Or nah?

 

[Trip]

So, Melo and NY are okay with a trade to Cleveland...

Does that still not dispel alot of the shyt people have been claiming about Melo's personality?

Or nah?

Who cares?

 

[DPresidential]

Who cares?

The nikka asking it on a public forum.



Where'd you buy your pedestal from breh?

 

[Malta]

So, Melo and NY are okay with a trade to Cleveland...

Does that still not dispel alot of the shyt people have been claiming about Melo's personality?

Or nah?

What is your point? That he's ok with being traded to the champs where one of his best friends basically runs the team, you don't say