Nas didn't even try to make Queens Get The Money sound like him

[H.S.]

Let's check dude's track record. The same nikka who been lying to his fans for YEARS about his album. The same nikka who goes on drunken rants on Twitter about nothing. The same nikka who dissed New York and the east coast when he raps like us and WE the ones who helped him with his buzz all along the way while he got damn near zero love from the south. From Nas. To Just Blaze. To DJ Enuff who forced played his record on the radio and he fukked the buzz. To Jay Z who signed the nikka and he didn't do nothin wit it. Yet his ungrateful lazy biting ass still took time out to shyt on us. shyt. Y'all talkin bout ghostwriters?. Jay Elec got accused of stealing a whole project. Rhymes n all. And since then he ain't barely drop shyt. Yet I don't see nobody accusing him of nothing.

To top it off, Jay Elec said he didn't write it.

It's like, either you believe the guys that were actually in the studio for the sessions, or you believe some of Nas's most outspoken detractors who weren't even around.

Ghostwriting aside, the prospect of Nas, Jay Elec and Stic Man collaborating on a black power album actually makes it more interesting imo, and I wonder how differently it would've been received had it been billed that way.

That Carter Winslow dude said Jay Elec stole all his lyrics. It was obviously bullshyt, but it's kind of hilarious how Jay has only released a few half-ass songs in all the years since then.

 

[Champion]

Yea cause he was tryna help him get on. He believed in him but dude turned out to be a bum. I said before and I say it again. Jay Electronica made the beat. And since the beat is so unorthodox he prolly told Nas how he should flow to it. U nikkas have no idea how music works. And how it is to work with different producers n shyt. They tell u how to approach THEIR beats all the time.

You have receipts for being in the studio when they put down the track? Because if not then you can miss me with the hypothetical scenarios breh. You are calling the assumptions blasphemous but are doing the exact same thing.

 

[Sound (∀√a) Maths]

Let's check dude's track record. The same nikka who been lying to his fans for YEARS about his album. The same nikka who goes on drunken rants on Twitter about nothing. The same nikka who dissed New York and the east coast when he raps like us and WE the ones who helped him with his buzz all along the way while he got damn near zero love from the south. From Nas. To Just Blaze. To DJ Enuff who forced played his record on the radio and he fukked the buzz. To Jay Z who signed the nikka and he didn't do nothin wit it. Yet his ungrateful lazy biting ass still took time out to shyt on us. shyt. Y'all talkin bout ghostwriters?. Jay Elec got accused of stealing a whole project. Rhymes n all. And since then he ain't barely drop shyt. Yet I don't see nobody accusing him of nothing.

Word. That went away quietly. Anyways, I believe there was input from Jay Elec & Stic but to what extent I don't know.

 

[UpAndComing]

Let's check dude's track record. The same nikka who been lying to his fans for YEARS about his album. The same nikka who goes on drunken rants on Twitter about nothing. The same nikka who dissed New York and the east coast when he raps like us and WE the ones who helped him with his buzz all along the way while he got damn near zero love from the south. From Nas. To Just Blaze. To DJ Enuff who forced played his record on the radio and he fukked the buzz. To Jay Z who signed the nikka and he didn't do nothin wit it. Yet his ungrateful lazy biting ass still took time out to shyt on us. shyt. Y'all talkin bout ghostwriters?. Jay Elec got accused of stealing a whole project. Rhymes n all. And since then he ain't barely drop shyt. Yet I don't see nobody accusing him of nothing.

Backstory?

 

[AntLive1981]

It sounded like Nas to me

 

[Art Barr]

nikka u was denying at at first too. Y'all nikkas is crazy.

nikka u was denying at at first too. Y'all nikkas is crazy.

Pull up my posts on this.

This is it:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/so-a...riter-s-most-likely-a-false-accusation.32079/

i don't believe a word of it.

then again,..dream was heav's girl........




"art barr.one!" =

I, cryptically said what the real was IN a cryptic manner and said,....

I don't believe a word of it,...
Then, I left the cryptic smilie of dream was heav's girl.
With two smilies to express, a cryptic laugh, and I hope you see what I see.
Plus, my actual online tag right justified, in the original post.
That was lost to a cutnpaste here.
to let me know, I meant that cryptic shyt in the future.

Plus, allude to big saying he possibly wrote for heav, too.

All coded in that covert posts,....


Like breh,....
Y'all and NAS was ON heav's dikk.
Yet, y'all diss the one person who was aligned with heav in dream Hampton.
Like dream was heav's love bun like Roger wabbit/jessica.
Regardless, of the allegiance.
This could be seen as a two pronged damaged job spin job.
One, nas may have done the heav tribute record.
all because it was a hopeful olive branch.
So, dream would NOT GO PUBLIC.
About the ghostwriting that internally from even an admin perspective she may have had access to.

Yet, dream may not have honored that because of whatever reasons.
Which is why she went public.

Two, why in THA fukk, is ghostwriting and nas coming up in the first place.
When, there is not supposed to be anyone around in the first place.
Three this goes back to, the nas is dumb thread from .

Why align yourself with a roc/jay based team.
when this is the same contingent that preyed on your downfall.
Why do you have contact with jay electronica in the first place creatively.
When, working with anyone jayz affiliated is a severely extreme conflict of interest.
regardless of nas's recent past on feature records and record deal signings. Which are all a conflict of interest in nature and is ignored.
That I have been vocal about since the ink and pr pressings were dry.
as being seen as a detriment to the culture and even nas's publically.
Nas, having anyone affiliated with jayz around is like if I asked to get a deal with mayback music/defjam/atlantic/lyor/wb/300.

Knowing I dissed Rick Ross and think any contingent of Kevin liles/lyor/defjam/mm/atlantic/wb has my best interest at hand.

So, again,....either a backdoor deal was cut and it all went to shyt.
Where dream was not going regardless or her being affiliated with heav's past and did not see the connection to the heav production credit as strong enough to block her disclosing the real.
Or, nas is dumb,... which is it,....
Oochie Wally or one mic,.....



Art Barr

The one thing about life is, there is no coincidences.
Includingamd most importantly,...
when there is smoke.
There is fire and I smell smoke fire.
Plus, I don't see all these inter-related people as a coincidence, either.

 

[Ziggiy]

They gon keep denying it, tho.
Watch,.......


Art Barr

Are you going to keep denying that you are a 50 year old cac sympathizer whose spent so much time in his mother's basement that he still thinks it's 1991 and the worlds best rap album is Paid In Full?

 

[Art Barr]

Are you going to keep denying that you are a 50 year old cac sympathizer whose spent so much time in his mother's basement that he still thinks it's 1991 and the worlds best rap album is Paid In Full?

when, are you going to stop denying that your favorite artist is THE cac sympathizer.
who never did anything remotely close to what i did, in this instance.
plus, PUBLICALLY defended a cac's use of the word.
while, I in every instance from online to real life.
shut that shyt down or confronted and checked it as a no-no.
get mad cause you stan a sellout, named nas.
who continues to defy the culture.
then, use overpopulated stan opinion to try to shield nas from scrutiny.



art barr

 

[spliz]

You have receipts for being in the studio when they put down the track? Because if not then you can miss me with the hypothetical scenarios breh. You are calling the assumptions blasphemous but are doing the exact same thing.

See but I'm going off logics of being an artist and a producer and being in and out of the studio for about 18 years. Not only that. Going by Nas' track record as a writer for himself and others. vs the track record of the so called "writer" of the record. Being who he is. He DEFINITELY deserves the benefit of the doubt.

 

[spliz]

Pull up my posts on this.

This is it:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/so-a...riter-s-most-likely-a-false-accusation.32079/




I, cryptically said what the real was IN a cryptic manner and said,....

I don't believe a word of it,...
Then, I left the cryptic smilie of dream was heav's girl.
With two smilies to express, a cryptic laugh, and I hope you see what I see.
Plus, my actual online tag right justified, in the original post.
That was lost to a cutnpaste here.
to let me know, I meant that cryptic shyt in the future.

Plus, allude to big saying he possibly wrote for heav, too.

All coded in that covert posts,....


Like breh,....
Y'all and NAS was ON heav's dikk.
Yet, y'all diss the one person who was aligned with heav in dream Hampton.
Like dream was heav's love bun like Roger wabbit/jessica.
Regardless, of the allegiance.
This could be seen as a two pronged damaged job spin job.
One, nas may have done the heav tribute record.
all because it was a hopeful olive branch.
So, dream would NOT GO PUBLIC.
About the ghostwriting that internally from even an admin perspective she may have had access to.

Yet, dream may not have honored that because of whatever reasons.
Which is why she went public.

Two, why in THA fukk, is ghostwriting and nas coming up in the first place.
When, there is not supposed to be anyone around in the first place.
Three this goes back to, the nas is dumb thread from .

Why align yourself with a roc/jay based team.
when this is the same contingent that preyed on your downfall.
Why do you have contact with jay electronica in the first place creatively.
When, working with anyone jayz affiliated is a severely extreme conflict of interest.
regardless of nas's recent past on feature records and record deal signings. Which are all a conflict of interest in nature and is ignored.
That I have been vocal about since the ink and pr pressings were dry.
as being seen as a detriment to the culture and even nas's publically.
Nas, having anyone affiliated with jayz around is like if I asked to get a deal with mayback music/defjam/atlantic/lyor/wb/300.

Knowing I dissed Rick Ross and think any contingent of Kevin liles/lyor/defjam/mm/atlantic/wb has my best interest at hand.

So, again,....either a backdoor deal was cut and it all went to shyt.
Where dream was not going regardless or her being affiliated with heav's past and did not see the connection to the heav production credit as strong enough to block her disclosing the real.
Or, nas is dumb,... which is it,....
Oochie Wally or one mic,.....



Art Barr

The one thing about life is, there is no coincidences.
Includingamd most importantly,...
when there is smoke.
There is fire and I smell smoke fire.
Plus, I don't see all these inter-related people as a coincidence, either.

nikka every top tier artist that picked up the mic has a ghostwriting rumor. Biggie. Nas. Jay. Ghostface. Method Man. LL Cool J. Common. Cam'ron. DMX. Big L. and the list goes on and on. And the WAY the shyt was brought up was cause of some for Jay-Z shyt. Dream Hampton says dumb shyt all the time. This one just seemed to gain attention. By giving this attention. Lemme ask u somethin? U a big Cam fan. Do u think JR Writer wrote for Cam? Do u think DMX wrote for Cam? Do u think Cam wrote for X? Do u think K Solo wrote for X? Do u think The Lox wrote for Biggie? Do u think Ma$e wrote for Biggie? Do u think Ma$e wrote for Big L? I mean the rabbit hole goes down far if u wanna just go off rumors.

 

[spliz]

hempstead dirty af u disgust me

And me being from BK also means what? Stfu. U remind me of another poster who the fukk is this? Lol

 

[Art Barr]

nikka every top tier artist that picked up the mic has a ghostwriting rumor. Biggie. Nas. Jay. Ghostface. Method Man. LL Cool J. Common. Cam'ron. DMX. Big L. and the list goes on and on. And the WAY the shyt was brought up was cause of some for Jay-Z shyt. Dream Hampton says dumb shyt all the time. This one just seemed to gain attention. By giving this attention. Lemme ask u somethin? U a big Cam fan. Do u think JR Writer wrote for Cam? Do u think DMX wrote for Cam? Do u think Cam wrote for X? Do u think K Solo wrote for X? Do u think The Lox wrote for Biggie? Do u think Ma$e wrote for Biggie? Do u think Ma$e wrote for Big L? I mean the rabbit hole goes down far if u wanna just go off rumors.

all those rappers you listed all came up in the sales spike era.

so, stop deflecting..
you trying to mention cam, mase, big, dmx, ksolo, jayz, big L....
like just because i bang their music.
i don't call a spade a spade, on this issue.

look you either gon fly in and kill all that shyt or not.
what i find funny in all this, is the truth gets lost.

y'all so busy trying to deflect, make funnies, make meme, be sarcastic and post smilies.
talk about what they do in the streets, etc.
which is all deflection to shield away from the facts, and culture of hiphop.

the fact is if they have a ghostwriter they are violating.

now, do we have to go indepth into why i am also a legend around here.
plus, what happened and has been misconstrued into comedy.
yet, the reason why my name comes up in the exposal of the so-called mystery ghostwriter online is.
i was the person who confronted said ghostwriter and actually had ju respond to him on here.
the only time i ever had juice respond on here, and transpose his words verbatim to someone using my account.
plus, where and when one of the first let's meet up and see what's good with this shyt for real shyt was real, too.
i remember where he was told to meet us and mum became the word and he copped pleas, as well.
plus, would not give his info as to whom he was.
while he lied about juice having a ghostwriter at hula's house.
which was a fukk'n lie.

all this was done, when the rumors popped up erroneously on here about juice.
which is how people came to know i was even affiliated with ju.
after i was already that nikka on here, too.
i, motivated and moved effectively to squelch the rumors.
when said person was confronted.
they copped pleas and were proven to be false.
so, miss me with all that rumor shyt.
you either confront it and kill it with the facts.
similar and like how, i and juice did.
or you fukk'n are guilty as fukk cause no emcee who really writes their own shyt.
is letting some rumors fly without checking that shyt from the gut.
in a feral manner and having it x'd out and authenicated with the truth.
the problem is y'all been marketed sellouts as a lie and don't want to admit it.
plus, y'all have disrespect to bboys.
who keep it real to the point.
you always never get the shyt indepthly accurrate.
as to what happened as to facts or culture.
plus, i even showed you were not on point in this very thread.
which includes this thread, and all the threads.
when weighted fact material and content is needed.
to dispel some pass making bullshyt you were on, and you know it.

so, miss me with all that these deflection based names, did blah blah blah.
like they were all commendable from jump.
or did not go astray in search of trying to capitalize on the sales spike era.
i know who all those nikkaz are, from a grassroots level.
either by six degrees of separation or some factor of circumstance.

them nikkaz never was on real cultural shyt all all the way and that is the truth.
only method is the guy who actually confronted and squelched his rumors and gave an account for real.
the other names you threw out there, it is damn near confirmed what the demo is, and i never let them slide for that shyt, ever.
that if they did sellout and have a ghostwriter.
then, the real facts will reflect that.
if you and other stans like you could keep it real.

yet, y'all don't.
that is why this guards drawing era has not ended like it was supposed to if you violated.
along with the protection mechanism and stop gap measure to make it so the pillars had a profitable drawing business.

plus, the whole entire rap game and the culture of hiphop is damn near at extinction because of it

don't ever try to put it, like i never called out these people and give passes like you.
you only paying attention to oh i like cam'ron.
when, it is well known by anyone who knows about my personal listening pleasures.
i did not like dipset till cam made ph and had a higher skill level in delivery.
which we all know was probably from getting help.
as cam is from an undeas/badboy camp and we know what time it is, too.
as you know i never give passes and i have had to expose and show the facts.
to dispute you for years and prove you wrong as well.
so miss me with that oh include my fav's bullshyt.
like i have not went public on common, to cam'ron in this discussion.
plus, y'all keep forgetting none of them are people i am the protege of.
so, miss me with the personal attacks connected to my listening.
as none of them nikkaz is juice.
none of them nikkaz are influential in who i am skillwise as an emcee like juice.

you nikkaz keep forgetting that shyt cause y'all ignored one of the best of all time.
while i lived being the protege to one of the best of all time, and faking jax we never do, or did, period.



art barr

i also, know ksolo on a personal level.
to the point, me and maintain are both ju proteges.
while, maintain doubles as ksolo's protege as well.
so, kill all that noise.
i know what happened, and was there, or someone said what the real is, too.

it is you who doesn't know all the connections.
especially about me, and who and what i am about.
i keep it real all the fukk'n time and never am i lack'n period.

 

[Piff Perkins]

And that's corny. Jay Elec made the beat. The beat is fukkin stupid. It's bad timing. All that. Nas has rapped to off timing beats before tho. But in this case. It's easy for Jay to have told Nas how to approach the flow to the beat since it's so unorthodox. Just Blaze even said that everyone needs to stfu cause he was there and Jay Elec didn't ghostwrite a verse for Nas. And how it didn't go down like that at all.

Link? Pretty sure he didn't say that...

 

[spliz]

all those rappers you listed all came up in the sales spike era.

so, stop deflecting..
you trying to mention cam, mase, big, dmx, ksolo, jayz, big L....
like just because i bang their music.
i don't call a spade a spade, on this issue.

look you either gon fly in and kill all that shyt or not.
what i find funny in all this, is the truth gets lost.

y'all so busy trying to deflect, make funnies, make meme, be sarcastic and post smilies.
talk about what they do in the streets, etc.
which is all deflection to shield away from the facts, and culture of hiphop.

the fact is if they have a ghostwriter they are violating.

now, do we have to go indepth into why i am also a legend around here.
plus, what happened and has been misconstrued into comedy.
yet, the reason why my name comes up in the exposal of the so-called mystery ghostwriter online is.
i was the person who confronted said ghostwriter and actually had ju respond to him on here.
the only time i ever had juice respond on here, and transpose his words verbatim to someone using my account.
plus, where and when one of the first let's meet up and see what's good with this shyt for real shyt was real, too.
i remember where he was told to meet us and mum became the word and he copped pleas, as well.
plus, would not give his info as to whom he was.
while he lied about juice having a ghostwriter at hula's house.
which was a fukk'n lie.

all this was done, when the rumors popped up erroneously on here about juice.
which is how people came to know i was even affiliated with ju.
after i was already that nikka on here, too.
i, motivated and moved effectively to squelch the rumors.
when said person was confronted.
they copped pleas and were proven to be false.
so, miss me with all that rumor shyt.
you either confront it and kill it with the facts.
similar and like how, i and juice did.
or you fukk'n are guilty as fukk cause no emcee who really writes their own shyt.
is letting some rumors fly without checking that shyt from the gut.
in a feral manner and having it x'd out and authenicated with the truth.
the problem is y'all been marketed sellouts as a lie and don't want to admit it.
plus, y'all have disrespect to bboys.
who keep it real to the point.
you always never get the shyt indepthly accurrate.
as to what happened as to facts or culture.
plus, i even showed you were not on point in this very thread.
which includes this thread, and all the threads.
when weighted fact material and content is needed.
to dispel some pass making bullshyt you were on, and you know it.

so, miss me with all that these deflection based names, did blah blah blah.
like they were all commendable from jump.
or did not go astray in search of trying to capitalize on the sales spike era.
i know who all those nikkaz are, from a grassroots level.
either by six degrees of separation or some factor of circumstance.

them nikkaz never was on real cultural shyt all all the way and that is the truth.
only method is the guy who actually confronted and squelched his rumors and gave an account for real.
the other names you threw out there, it is damn near confirmed what the demo is, and i never let them slide for that shyt, ever.
that if they did sellout and have a ghostwriter.
then, the real facts will reflect that.
if you and other stans like you could keep it real.

yet, y'all don't.
that is why this guards drawing era has not ended like it was supposed to if you violated.
along with the protection mechanism and stop gap measure to make it so the pillars had a profitable drawing business.

plus, the whole entire rap game and the culture of hiphop is damn near at extinction because of it

don't ever try to put it, like i never called out these people and give passes like you.
you only paying attention to oh i like cam'ron.
when, it is well known by anyone who knows about my personal listening pleasures.
i did not like dipset till cam made ph and had a higher skill level in delivery.
which we all know was probably from getting help.
as cam is from an undeas/badboy camp and we know what time it is, too.
as you know i never give passes and i have had to expose and show the facts.
to dispute you for years and prove you wrong as well.
so miss me with that oh include my fav's bullshyt.
like i have not went public on common, to cam'ron in this discussion.
plus, y'all keep forgetting none of them are people i am the protege of.
so, miss me with the personal attacks connected to my listening.
as none of them nikkaz is juice.
none of them nikkaz are influential in who i am skillwise as an emcee like juice.

you nikkaz keep forgetting that shyt cause y'all ignored one of the best of all time.
while i lived being the protege to one of the best of all time, and faking jax we never do, or did, period.



art barr

i also, know ksolo on a personal level.
to the point, me and maintain are both ju proteges.
while, maintain doubles as ksolo's protege as well.
so, kill all that noise.
i know what happened, and was there, or someone said what the real is, too.

it is you who doesn't know all the connections.
especially about me, and who and what i am about.
i keep it real all the fukk'n time and never am i lack'n period.

What was the point of u goin so hard for Cam if u automatically assumed he had help? See me. I don't fukk wit gossip. Gossip is for the bytches. He say she say shyt. It's all bullshyt until some substantial evidence presents itself to me. shyt. Although I have no reason to lie. People don't have to believe a word I say on here. Only thing is. Everytime I've said somethin about an artist I know. The shyt came out eventually. If all the said parties involved deny something. I have no choice but to take that for what it is. Especially if there's no evidence of otherwise. U call that giving passes. I call that being logical and fair. If it don't stick it ain't shyt. Period. Hit me wit some evidence so I can prosecute the guilty party. Until then. U wasting time. Bruh. Believe me. If some reference tracks came out for ANY of my favorite artists. It's snipe on sight for me. I don't play that shyt. And u KNOW this. U seen me argue this shyt time and time again. Same reason nikkas rumor about Lupe writing for Jay. Ain't no solid evidence to back it up. So I just can't act like it's true. And don't get it twisted. I know u got connects bruh. But the same way u got connects. Is the same way I got connects. Trust me.

 

[spliz]

Link? Pretty sure he didn't say that...

He did say that. He was arguing with people on Twitter about it.