Nas didn't even try to make Queens Get The Money sound like him

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I'm laughing at these so called hip hop heads and Nas fans that can't even recognize a Nas reference from his earlier catalog. But they are so quick to accuse the man of having a ghost writer.
but it has been confirmed that he did have some help with writing on the album :comeon:

doesn't it make more sense that Jay would quote Nas old lyrics than Nas quote himself from Illmatic
 

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I'm laughing at these so called hip hop heads and Nas fans that can't even recognize a Nas reference from his earlier catalog. But they are so quick to accuse the man of having a ghost writer.
by your logic if a ghostwritten Dre verse has references to NWA or the Chronic or some shyt then Dre really wrote it

you should try not being a LIAR

i know you roll nazz's blunts or have some other small ties to him u should try not LYING to his fans

bytch ass LIARS like you hold hip hop back

but thanks to drake we know having writing help doesn't mean shyt to your reputation

well maybe nazz is the exception cuz all his fans are narrow, closed minded, 36, on coli, and mildly to severely retarded
 

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but it has been confirmed that he did have some help with writing on the album :comeon:

doesn't it make more sense that Jay would quote Nas old lyrics than Nas quote himself from Illmatic
fukking stic man said he wrote on Sly Fox referencing particular lines "CBS I see BS"

then he said nazz hit him asking for a track about Louis Farrakhan

obviously he was talking about a beat right

cuz a beat can be about a certain narrow topic

then nazz admitted jungle wrote the first 4 bars to one mic

sohh we have 2 factual writers for nazz (throw in "hasan" from "hasan give me lines" and we have 3) so jay e isn't needed
 

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fukking stic man said he wrote on Sly Fox referencing particular lines "CBS I see BS"

then he said nazz hit him asking for a track about Louis Farrakhan

obviously he was talking about a beat right

cuz a beat can be about a certain narrow topic

then nazz admitted jungle wrote the first 4 bars to one mic

sohh we have 2 factual writers for nazz (throw in "hasan" from "hasan give me lines" and we have 3) so jay e isn't needed
yea I threw in that link earlier from stic man and he was pretty vague about how much he helped with but he said enough. That's enough proof right there that he got help with lines so to figure out which lines he did get help with is just investigative work and speculation
 

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but it has been confirmed that he did have some help with writing on the album :comeon:

doesn't it make more sense that Jay would quote Nas old lyrics than Nas quote himself from Illmatic
It was not confirmed he had help writing on this album. Here is what Stic Man from Dead Prez has been talking about his role on the N Album since 2009 and his story was the same in 2012.
 

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fukking stic man said he wrote on Sly Fox referencing particular lines "CBS I see BS"

then he said nazz hit him asking for a track about Louis Farrakhan

obviously he was talking about a beat right

cuz a beat can be about a certain narrow topic

then nazz admitted jungle wrote the first 4 bars to one mic

sohh we have 2 factual writers for nazz (throw in "hasan" from "hasan give me lines" and we have 3) so jay e isn't needed
You are a LIAR!
 

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yea I threw in that link earlier from stic man and he was pretty vague about how much he helped with but he said enough. That's enough proof right there that he got help with lines so to figure out which lines he did get help with is just investigative work and speculation
a lot of that commentary is after nazz got exposed and he was tryna play it down

there was an interview on hiphopdx that's no longer there, from like 08 apparently

excerpts from boxden and blogs where people copy and pasted it:

"So we get the notepad full of ideas about Fox. Im like, Searching like CBS, and I see B.S., track us down with GPS. He came with, Red Foxx, only fox I know. He would scribble it down, but not in a rap format, just dope little pieces. He goes in the booth after I get the beat all up, but what you hear on the song, he spit that. He had a certain method of what he wrote down and how he spit it. So Im like, How can I be productive? Let me think of a hook, so we can stay focused. I wanted to do a million songs, I didnt want to be stuck on one song forever. So I write the hook that you hear on the song, and when he comes out the booth, I go in the booth and lay the hook down. When I get halfway done with the hook in the booth, he stopped me like, Come out. Ima say that hook. I leave the pad in the booth, and he goes in there for one take and spits that sh*t hard. We work it out, keep working on the song and tweaking it, and thats how Sly Fox came about. It was co-written and a collaboration, but it was his idea and his genius."

Stic.man: We knew Nas for a minute, [since when] we were on Columbia. This particular time, he just reached out. He actually reached out to M1 and asked. I dont even think he knew who did our beats. M1 hit me and said that Nas wanted us to come to the studio and hang out, write, produce, whatever, do some collab work. But he wasnt real specific on what he wanted us to do, so I assumed he wanted us to rap on something. Just cause thats what people usually use our brand for, because of what we have to say.

So I went out to L.A. with my pad, ready to rap my ass off with one of my favorite emcees. [Laughs] He was totally like, Yo, I want yall to produce this. Do yall have any idea how you could develop this particular thought? I want to get at Fox News, got any beats for that? I found out over a few days that he wasnt really interested in us rapping or being featured, but he wanted a sound and he wanted some help in conceptualizing his ideas. Thats pretty much what I do with dead prez, so M1 just sort of fell back, like, Knock it out. Make the beats happen. Thats pretty how we got into the mood. I ended up doing five or six things musically that he wanted for his record. I think he ended up choosing three. But it was good. Hed say, Heres a concept, and we just started building on it. Id play some tracks, I made some shyt on the spot. Some stuff I produced, like the Untitled song, Nas hit me two days before his deadline. He said, I need some shyt about [Louis] Farrakhan. Hook me up with a track, nikka. [Laughs] I did something that I felt, I wasnt sure if he was going to fukk with it or not. I sent it to him, I hit him late that night, and he was like, Its done and mixed. Before I even heard where he was going with it, it was mixed and ready to go. You know how industry shyt goes, sometimes you dont always [record music] in the same room at the same time.

We did Sly Fox in the same room same time, and Untitled I did in Atlanta. The Youre Not Alone record, as far as all the singing and the beat, I was working on it for the dead prez Information Age album. But I thought, Nas would kill this shyt.
 

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a lot of that commentary is after nazz got exposed and he was tryna play it down

there was an interview on hiphopdx that's no longer there, from like 08 apparently

excerpts from boxden and blogs where people copy and pasted it:
Exposed! This proves Nas used his own concepts and lyrics and Sticman wrote hooks as he been saying since 2008.
 

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Exposed! This proves Nas used his own concepts and lyrics and Sticman wrote hooks as he been saying since 2008.
but he wrote part of nazz sly fox verse(s) (i see BS, GPS)

funny how u downplay "hooks" like they're not just short, uncatchy verses in nazz music

i guess the fact it gets played more than once in the song makes it better? shouldn't that make it worse :laff:

u act like he came in and wrote some shyt for Mary J to sing :mjol:

also Untited / louis farrakhan doesn't even have a hook and stic wrote that solo as he admits
 
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