Albums Nas & DJ Premier - Light-Years (Discussion Thread)

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This is exactly what I said would happen.

Premo has been washed for over a decade... He has become obsolete in the game musically. We heard a preview from his album with Marci... He just ain't got it no more.
 

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3rd listen I like half the album, the other half :francis:..most the ones i like are in the 2nd half ..this is definitely for :flabbynsick: ain't nothing wrong with that:russ:
 

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I told yall what would happen :laugh: . fukk what everyone else talking bout.. I'm about to buy 2 more copies. I drove to Raleigh and back today and I listened to it 4 times total. One time on youtube when it dropped and 7 times driving. It would have been 6, but I let my wife listen to Oliva Dean's album twice and Syd Once. Fuk the bullshyt, I dig it. Primo is almost 60 and Nas is 52. I think it's some great "old man" hip hop music. I personally like the De la soul and Mobb Deep albums better, but I love the album. For people talking about the beats are simple, most of Primo's classic tracks are very simple. Dwyck is a 2 bar bass loop and a half-bar "synthetic substitution" drum sample over it. "Second childhood" is a 2 bar Pebo Bryson loop. Memory lane is just a 2 bar loop with no changes. We all like what we like. This aint for everyone. Some people said the Mobb, De la, and even Common/Pete Rock albums were trash so we all got our likes and dislikes. I detest trap music. I hate trap music more than I hate the police, but if that's someone's cup of tea, that's for them...
I thought De La’s album was sonically a better golden era sounding album than this one and felt like it was trying less hard. And Primo was all over it. Just talking the beats. Nas killed this.
 

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This is exactly what I said would happen.

Premo has been washed for over a decade... He has become obsolete in the game musically. We heard a preview from his album with Marci... He just ain't got it no more.
Unfortunately you are right. As a Premier fan over 30 years to me it started with one of the best yet album.
 

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This is exactly what I said would happen.

Premo has been washed for over a decade... He has become obsolete in the game musically. We heard a preview from his album with Marci... He just ain't got it no more.
Like I said earlier. On forums low key primo has been getting called Washed since The Ownerz in 2002. I disagree btw. But that’s been a common opinion. Most people were fukking astonished in 2019 when the posthumous GangStarr album was actually fire. Many die hard knowledgeable rap fans thought that album was gonna be trash.

His reputation among anyone but major underground heads and NY heads hasn’t been in a great place for damn near 20 years.

This shouldn’t be a surprise.
 
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Oh boy. I’m on here late as hell so I get to work backwards in this thread to gauge reactions. I already saw how folks on X are feeling

First listen I like I like the album. Didn’t think Preemo had the hottest beats but I get the minimalist “ode to Hip Hop” feel and sound him and Nas were going for. I do kinda agree with those saying the second half is the strongest. Almost like we heard some of the type of beats we expected to hear, just wish there was more of that

Very solid 4 maybe 4.5 but I gotta run it back a couple more times. All the “Nas needs Hit-Boy back” chatter tho :comeon: Is that more from newer Nas fans?
nikkaz on Twitter always looking for engagement and saying something negative or sucks is easy clickbait and attention

But everyone is entitled to their opinions. Lotta younger cats already think Preemo's style is outdated. Xers and older millennials are his primary demo.
 

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Dope ass album only joint i aint fukk with is dead prez 3. Not needed at all.

Yes the production was pretty underwhelming but like ive always said Nas dont need amazing beats to break through. He was god level on this
 

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Aight, so I finally listened to the album.

It's not as bad as some are making it out to be and I think what's dividing people is the generational difference in production.

This album sounds nothing like Hitboy, whose production was more “modern” and accessible to younger Nas listeners, whereas Premier sounds much more like a throwback to the early-mid 90s. Basically, the album has an “old head” feel to it that might be a bit polarizing to those who prefer the newly found Hitboy sound Nas was working with for the past 5+ albums.

Some listeners got really accustomed to Nas rapping on Hitboy production that this might be seen as “jumping the shark” for many.

Also, I think people who haven't been following or listening to Premier's production over the years are just now realizing that he doesn't sound like the same producer from the '90s. Gone are the raw, hard-hitting drums and scratches that defined his work, and now there's more “soul” in his beats, which are now melodic-driven, the backdrop is what's driving his production.

As far as the album goes, if I had to rate it out of 10, I'd say it's about a 6.5-7/10.

If I had to rate the songs individually...the bolded being my favorite tracks.

My Life Is Real • 4/5
Git Ready • 4.5/5
NY State Of Mind 3 • 3.5/5
Welcome To The Underground • 3.5/5
Madman • 4/5
Pause Tapes • 4.5/5
Writers • 5/5
Sons (Young Kings) • 5/5
It's Time • 4.5/5

Nasty Esco Nasir • 4/5
My Story Your Story • 4.5/5
Bouquet (To The Ladies) • 4/5
Junkie • 4.5/5
Shine Together • 4/5
3rd Childhood • 4.5/5

I think the second half of the album, starting with 'Pause Tapes,' was much better than the first five songs.

Now, in my opinion, NYSOM3 wasn't soo bad; however, had they just used the Billy Joel song as the template for the song itself, rather than just the chorus, it could've been one of (if not) the best song(s) on the album. I see what he was trying to do in thematically connecting it to the previous two NYSOM songs, in that those had a gritty sound.
If you go back and listen to Nas is Like or 2nd Childhood those beats are memorable. I listened to this whole album and none of the beats stood out. Premo just lost the spark. He's a shell of his former self.
 

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If you go back and listen to Nas is Like or 2nd Childhood those beats are memorable. I listened to this whole album and none of the beats stood out. Premo just lost the spark. He's a shell of his former self.
I remember when I first saw/heard Nas is Like on mtv jams on a saturday. I’m like wtf

i would quote that I saw my close friend shot line all the time

my mom got concern lol

that the Nas I like (pun intended)

I can get jiggy with simplicity Nas
 
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