Albums Nas & DJ Premier - Light-Years (Discussion Thread)

[Ziggiy]

I always say Mos is probably the most talented rap artist, it’s a shame he didn’t have the focus and will to make the most of his promise even though he’s still had a good career, similar to Andre these types always seem to have some personal issues one way or the other, Kendrick has managed to make the most of his talent because he doesn’t seem to have the same internal issues mentally or at least he does well to block them out and focus on the music.

Sometimes the most purely talented have issues because the thing their the best at just comes so easily to them they get bored with it and start chasing other challenges. The fact that Nas and Kendrick are exceptions to the rule I think come from the fact that they simply love the artform more than they love their need for a creative outlet. Nas will readily say that Hip Hop is MORE important than he himself. I’m sure Kendrick would express similar sentiments.

Nas and Kendrick also have the courage to continually challenge themselves and aren’t scared with anybody might say regarding their experimentation. Nas gets hate for songs like Who Killed It and Kendrick got hate for songs like Auntie Diaries but they don’t give a fukk and aren’t shackled to the expectations of fans. Andre seems scared to death of disappointing hip hop fans and really seemed to shy away during the mid 2000’s when a certain segment of the culture was looking for someone to “save rap”. Andre directly said he wasn’t qualified to save shyt and that he only writes 2-3 verses per year.

 

[ItWasWritten]

that's not it. the crazy thing is that someone's beats are azz and they are basically saying on their youtube channel that Primo didn't perform to THEIR standard . That's the shyt that had me tripping and laughing. And I don't even want to post the channels or names of these guys, but if your shyt is sounding like some PlayStation beat making demo, you don't need to be talking about Primo performing to your standard. Especially when their beats sound like they are trying to imitate Primo and they are failing at it.

His beatmaking standard or the standard he sets for Preem ?

Being bad at beat making does not mean he has no right to an opinion

If his beats are trash and if he is saying he could have done a better job , that’s a different story

 

[spliz]

According to Nas stans every album he drops is a 10/10. It's ok to admit something is 6 or a 7. Calling every Nas album a masterpiece only makes you guys look foolish. At best this is a 3.5 mic album to me. Maybe 3. There's like 3-4 very good beats on here. With the rest ranging from terrible to average. Nas is still very sharp with the flow but he's also repeating a lot of the same shyt he's said on his past 5 albums. So that also takes some points off. Once you start calling yourself the crypto currency Scarface it's probably time to fallback for a while and challenge yourself to write something with a little more substance. Nas has also been writing for so long it's probably not easy to come up with new ideas. So I get it. But a spade is still a spade.

Nas is similar to guys like common and ghostface now. All these guys are in my personal top 5 but they're also not elite with the pen anymore and I can admit that. Just like rza is my GOAT producer and I can admit he's absolutely garbage now. All these guys found their comfort zone and they're sticking to it. Every song is just a complete rehash of something they already made or something they already said. But they're all in their 50's now. They don't need to be elite anymore. Them still being very good and making decent albums is the best you could hope for at this stage of their careers. But I'm also not going to grade them on a curve because of who they are. Cause that would only degrade the artform. There's a standard of hip hop greatness and that bar shouldn't ever be lowered. Not even for the legends.

Nas rapping better on this than Kendrick was rapping on GNX. Now watch ur brain explode cause I’m telling the truth. And this subject matter barely touched the KD and Magic series. But the difference is a nikka in his 50s dropping 7 albums in the span of 4 years and ya 30 something year old mans dropping 2 albums in the span of 10. So maybe that effects the subject matter a lil bit.

 

[spliz]

Sometimes the most purely talented have issues because the thing their the best at just comes so easily to them they get bored with it and start chasing other challenges. The fact that Nas and Kendrick are exceptions to the rule I think come from the fact that they simply love the artform more than they love their need for a creative outlet. Nas will readily say that Hip Hop is MORE important than he himself. I’m sure Kendrick would express similar sentiments.

Nas and Kendrick also have the courage to continually challenge themselves and aren’t scared with anybody might say regarding their experimentation. Nas gets hate for songs like Who Killed It and Kendrick got hate for songs like Auntie Diaries but they don’t give a fukk and aren’t shackled to the expectations of fans. Andre seems scared to death of disappointing hip hop fans and really seemed to shy away during the mid 2000’s when a certain segment of the culture was looking for someone to “save rap”. Andre directly said he wasn’t qualified to save shyt and that he only writes 2-3 verses per year.

Kendrick ain’t no exception to shyt. Imma say this. Would Nas get the same praise as a lyricist if he was rapping like Kendrick did on GNX? What album had the better bars? This ain’t even really for u but imma expose a lot of these Kendrick nikkas tryna disrespect Nas. Them nikkas AINT the same.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

Not liking it is whatever, but comparing it to Missionary is WILD. The execution here is infinitely better.

Nah my nikka I stand by that comparison because I felt the same way listening to both. Just overall two uneven MID ass albums that disappointed me even though I anticipated them both.

I can't agree with it being infinitely executed better when both only have 1 song that I truly liked (The song with Meth and the song with AZ)

Real shyt, the album I dropped with @clanarchy back in April, got better beats than this shyt. Like I could literally go song for song and EVERY beat on my project is better than this shyt. I put that on my life. Hell, give Nas my beats and he makes a better album than Light Years. Premo swung and missed this time. That's all it is.

Nastradamus >>>>>Light Years

 

[Ziggiy]

Kendrick ain’t no exception to shyt. Imma say this. Would Nas get the same praise as a lyricist if he was rapping like Kendrick did on GNX? What album had the better bars? This ain’t even really for u but imma expose a lot of these Kendrick nikkas tryna disrespect Nas.

Your hatred for Kendrick blinds you my friend…

Let it go

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

His beatmaking standard or the standard he sets for Preem ?

Being bad at beat making does not mean he has no right to an opinion

If his beats are trash and if he is saying he could have done a better job , that’s a different story

the youtuber's beats are garbage and he's saying that Primo's current work doesn't live up to his standards and satisfies him. He's saying all of this while he's imitating primo with his beats. You don't think that's strange?

 

[2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat]

Nas picked some wack beats. He's resorted to name dropping and telling "remember that?" stories. Wikipedia raps

you not lying

 

[spliz]

Your hatred for Kendrick blinds you my friend…

Let it go

Is Kendrick’s rapping on Mr Morale and GNX better than Nas’ on KD3, Magic and Light Years? This ain’t Kendrick hate. But I just seen a Kendrick Stan say Nas ain’t top 5 elite rapper no more.

 

[spliz]

you not lying

Muthafukka did u not get the theme of the album? Muthafukkas been posting lyrics all thru this muthafukka. Tell me them elite Kendrick verses from GNX.

 

[ItWasWritten]

the youtuber's beats are garbage and he's saying that Primo's current work doesn't live up to his standards and satisfies him. He's saying all of this while he's imitating primo with his beats. You don't think that's strange?

lol post the channel

 

[NormanConnors]

I will die on this hill (nostalgia has alot to do with it), but Jarreau of Rap is one of my favorite songs the past 10 yrs or so. It's become a summer staple for me with alot of great memories attached. I'm in the minority, but LT2 is overall my fav Nas project in this recent run.

Can't blame you at all, it really is a great track, it resonated with me immediately just off the strength of the execution/tie in to Al's skillset. to Nas as a fellow Jarreau fan.

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Nah my nikka I stand by that comparison because I felt the same way listening to both. Just overall two uneven MID ass albums that disappointed me even though I anticipated them both.

I can't agree with it being infinitely executed better when both only have 1 song that I truly liked (The song with Meth and the song with AZ)

Real shyt, the album I dropped with @clanarchy back in April, got better beats than this shyt. Like I could literally go song for song and EVERY beat on my project is better than this shyt. I put that on my life. Hell, give Nas my beats and he makes a better album than Light Years. Premo swung and missed this time. That's all it is.

Nastradamus >>>>>Light Years

Nah, Missionary was some sterile bullshyt that didnt even resemble anything we loved from Dre. At worst this album was too stripped down, but at least the pieces of a GREAT album are here. This album, you just need to fix the execution while Mjssionary was rotten from the time they got in the studio, there's no fixing that

 

[Ziggiy]

Is Kendrick’s rapping on Mr Morale and GNX better than Nas’ on KD3, Magic and Light Years? This ain’t Kendrick hate. But I just seen a Kendrick Stan say Nas ain’t top 5 elite rapper no more.

Well i’m not whoever that idiotic nikka is…

Nas is the greatest rapper of ALL TIME. Living or dead. He’s better than Rakim. He’s better than Kool G Rap. He’s better than 2Pac. He’s better than Biggie. He’s better than Ice Cube. He’s head and SHOULDERS above Jay-Z. He’s better to me than ANY rapper anyone could name.

But that doesn’t mean that newer generation artists like Lupe Fiasco and Kendrick Lamar aren’t incredible in their own rights. And Kendrick has proven he’s a GOAT of his generation, by any metric you could name, he’s that dude. Nas HIMSELF has said this, more than once. Kendrick is a special artist, a formidable writer and a King of this rap shyt. You can’t deny this. He may not be your cup of tea or you may not personally like him, but you have to acknowledge his impact. Just like people who don’t like or listen to Nas, they’re entitled to their opinion, but they’re in the minority and even they HAVE to acknowledge Nas’s impact.

 

[2ATMsYouSteppinOrWhat]

Muthafukka did u not get the theme of the album? Muthafukkas been posting lyrics all thru this muthafukka. Tell me them elite Kendrick verses from GNX.

i havent listened to the album cause i’m waiting on the hype to die down…

i’ll probably get to it in about a month or so, so i can’t say if its dope/wack etc… it wouldnt be fair to esco

but i’m going based off the hit boy run…

i did listen to the first 5 tracks tho and