Nas & DJ Premier- New Album Coming 2025 (Official Thread)
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Figaro
Superstar
This song made me more then skeptical about KD 1 when it was announced.
Glad I was wrong but that beat is something I would make on Fruity Loops as a beginner
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All Star
Anybody hatin on this can eat Diddy Glizzy pause shyt on repeat
I hope they drop a single/video before the album drops.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
I obviously have no clue the actual answer, but I do know from being friends with producers like 9th Wonder, Evidence, and Khrysis, that a lot of these dudes get into ruts and just want to change things up, for better or worse. I think creative people have a constant need to change little things, or try new hardware, or add things, or take things away, etc. Most of them get bored doing the exact same things. Khrysis in particular has had a million style changes. Evidence has had a lot too. 9th hasn't had a ton, but he's still had some, like switching from Fruity Loops to the Maschine, to the MPC, and went from starting with the sample to now mostly starting with the drums.
Just little things like that can have a fairly big difference in the final sound, and maybe Preem just wants to keep himself entertained, even if it means the beats don't sound exactly like Boom, Recognize, Mathematics, etc, anymore.
That's just a shot on the dark, though.
TheDarceKnight
Veteran
This video is
It's made me realize that very few producers anymore re-chop samples to where they make a whole new melody out of it. I kinda miss that shyt. Alchemist has some intricate chops like this in recent years (Bad Choices this year with 2Chainz and Larry was a crazy good one where he made a whole new melody out of the sample) and 9th Wonder still does this style all the time. But man...Premier really was the GOAT at this style. I feel like most of the popular sample based producers now do more digging for loops, and if they do chopping it's usually in service of making the loop sound smoother or cleaner, and less "choppy."But I actually love when there's a lot of obvious choppiness to the sample. It can add a whole lot of bounce and make a new groove. Havoc used to chop a lot and people pointed out that the new Mobb album doesn't have as much of this overt chopping on Havoc's production there either. It seems more grounded in loops or subtle chops.
Figaro
Superstar
I don’t think you can compare the Premo projects with Roc & Ransom with this.
Them projects were probably recorded over a few months while the Nas album definitely been cooking over the last 2 years, taking much more time with it. (Nas alluded to it in a interview promoting KD 1 or KD 2)
My expectations are realistic though, I’m not expecting a classic by any means but confident enough that’ll they will drop something worthy.
Them projects were probably recorded over a few months while the Nas album definitely been cooking over the last 2 years, taking much more time with it. (Nas alluded to it in a interview promoting KD 1 or KD 2)
My expectations are realistic though, I’m not expecting a classic by any means but confident enough that’ll they will drop something worthy.
Some beats that are gonna end up on the Roc & Ransom albums may have been ones he worked on for the Nas album that didn't make the cut.
Alexander Wiggin
All Star
Yeah. Maybe it will be like when Kanye did the seven albums release. You could clearly hear that he gave much more time and effort for the Pusha t album than the rest of them. That's why Daytona was lightwears ahead better than Nasir even tho they were dropped just weeks apart from one another
Prolific_1011
All Star
I dont think people truly understand Nas' gift.
Nas would make that new Ransom/Preme track a classic record if it were his vocals. Ransom added nothing to it. Same robotic cadence and says nothing of interest. Plus, Ran has a semi annoying voice with no flavor or style woven into the lyricism.
Dudes doubt Premo in part because the dudes that are rhyming over his tracks don't bring much to compliment the beats. Cut and paste Nas' verse from the new Big L track onto the Ransom/Preme track and it would make that Preme beat sound incredibly ill.
Nas would make that new Ransom/Preme track a classic record if it were his vocals. Ransom added nothing to it. Same robotic cadence and says nothing of interest. Plus, Ran has a semi annoying voice with no flavor or style woven into the lyricism.
Dudes doubt Premo in part because the dudes that are rhyming over his tracks don't bring much to compliment the beats. Cut and paste Nas' verse from the new Big L track onto the Ransom/Preme track and it would make that Preme beat sound incredibly ill.
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iLLusoYuN_Da_Adidas_King
Psn illusoyun
Originally it was called NY state of Mind.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
The beat is ok but I agree. People call me a hater but I've never fukked with Ransom. Even less so now during the last decade plus of his career shift/revival. He has zero presence on the mic, there's zero emotion, and he always sounds like he's reading words.
I hate the way that track starts with him starting out talking and you're like wait...did he start rapping or this just the intro?? lmao man.
I can respect a good loop, but when producers can expertly chop up a sample and making a brand new melody, that's when my interest is piqued. Navy Blue does(or used to)a lot of chopping in his beats as does MIKE. Though I like some Nicholas Craven beats, sometimes straight looping can only take a beat so far.This video is
But I actually love when there's a lot of obvious choppiness to the sample. It can add a whole lot of bounce and make a new groove. Havoc used to chop a lot and people pointed out that the new Mobb album doesn't have as much of this overt chopping on Havoc's production there either. It seems more grounded in loops or subtle chops.
