Nas - King’s Disease (Discussion Thread)

[JustCKing]

Plenty of wack beats and songs jayz has rapped over. They just dont get highlighted plain and simple. People run with narratives because they are sheep.

It gets highlighted. "Ghetto Techno" is ALWAYS brought up and it never made an album. There's others, but people on here even dismiss classics like "Dirt Off Your Shoulder" when it comes to Jay Z. "Justify My Thug" and "Change Clothes" have always caught flack. Same goes for "Moment of Clarity". "Snoopy Track", the Mariah song, and a couple of others from Vol. 3. Vol. 1 gets flack for "City Is Mine", "Sunshine", and "I Know What Girls Like". "Ain't No" from RD gets hate too. I could go on. The difference is there's not a narrative of Jay Z picking wack beats.

 

[Ziggiy]

It gets highlighted. "Ghetto Techno" is ALWAYS brought up and it never made an album. There's others, but people on here even dismiss classics like "Dirt Off Your Shoulder" when it comes to Jay Z. "Justify My Thug" and "Change Clothes" have always caught flack. Same goes for "Moment of Clarity". "Snoopy Track", the Mariah song, and a couple of others from Vol. 3. Vol. 1 gets flack for "City Is Mine", "Sunshine", and "I Know What Girls Like". "Ain't No" from RD gets hate too. I could go on. The difference is there's not a narrative of Jay Z picking wack beats.

The only downright ALBUM of Jay-Z’s that I find outright unsalvageable is MCHG. The beats were awful outside of Somewhere In America (ironically produced by Hit Boy) and the rapping uninspired.


Every other album may have 1-2 duds but there’s more dopeness than wackness

 

[Jamaro85]

Ah so its something that just started...


So how will those streams be counted?

Hmm, looks like this is the answer:

But the addition of billions of streams each week could have a substantial impact. Billboard will give the same weight to YouTube streams as it does to those from Apple, Spotify or any other platform: 1,250 clicks from a paying subscriber — or 3,750 clicks from a nonpaying user — are counted as the equivalent of one album sale.

A Big Change Comes to Billboard’s Album Chart: YouTube Streams

 

[Piff Perkins]

YouTube views are how NBA Youngboy keeps going gold/plat with song after song.

You want to play the game you need a music video and official audio video (lyric video for instance). ASAP, right out the gate.

 

[TheJet]

Even Joe Budden nem praising it

 

[ryderldb]

Even Joe Bidden nem praising it

I read this as Joe Biden. I was trippin out like for real

 

[spliz]

The only downright ALBUM of Jay-Z’s that I find outright unsalvageable is MCHG. The beats were awful outside of Somewhere In America (ironically produced by Hit Boy) and the rapping uninspired.


Every other album may have 1-2 duds but there’s more dopeness than wackness

BP2 got a lot of wackness. Kingdom Come got alotta wackness. BP3 was straight it gets unfair hate. Bottom line is Jay is no more consistently dope than Nas. They both got solid catalogs but nikkas act like Jay’s is FAR superior and nikkas in here can pick out lil tracks here n there and try to make a point but that’s the fukkin truth. Jay gets nowhere near the flack Nas gets and anyone even trying to compare the levels of criticism is being disingenuous. Nas can barely escape the shadows of ONE fukkin album. With a whole 30 year career under his belt. Most people don’t even realize how many plaques Nas has under his belt.

 

[spliz]

YouTube views are how NBA Youngboy keeps going gold/plat with song after song.

You want to play the game you need a music video and official audio video (lyric video for instance). ASAP, right out the gate.

nikka slow on the move with that Spicy man.

 

[Paper Boi]

Roll The Credits...........

 

[Ball]

Every customer I mentioned the album to at work here in htown said the album was fire. They were excited about Nas dropping heat in 2020

 

[spliz]

Don’t stress too much about the numbers. He’s indefinitely selling more than 35k. But he’s prolly not getting that number 1 spot due to Taylor Swift.

 

[Curufinwe]

Nas is the goat, but his beat selection is so underwhelming

Same narrative every Nas album.
Same answer; focus on the flow lyrics and rhymes...

 

[King Ming]

I don't think he misses opportunities to pick great beats. You pointed out what most have trouble with when it comes to Nas's beat selection: comparing what he's rhyming over to what the listener thinks he could/should be rhyming over.

The beats Fat Joe rhymes over works for Fat Joe. Nas doesn't necessarily "pick" beats off of a disc or a playlist. He actually builds with a producer and they create the songs together as opposed to him getting a beat and spitting on it.

If Nas works with Kanye or Just Blaze, guarantee it won't sound like what they did for any other artist. People look at the names and immediately go to their other work for reference. When they hear a Kanye joint or Just joint with Nas on it, they diss it because it doesn't sound like what they gave Game or Jay or whoever.

Same narrative every Nas album.
Same answer; focus on the flow lyrics and rhymes...

Hip Hop fans r the worst! ... Was playing most of Nas' older albums Nastradamus, ******, God's Son etc. Its a myth that Nas raps over wack beats TBH

 

[JustCKing]

"Spicy" was my least favorite song on the album, but even it has grown on me. It is probably the most single material song on the album.

"27 Summers" is perfect as is even though it is short, it definitely serves its purpose. One of my favorites actually.

My favorites as of now are "Blue Benz", "10 Points" and "Til The War". It will probably change again though.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Nas really the GOD MC.