Excellenceofelegance
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NAH pac didn’t see him as a threat jay was basically clout chasing trying to insert himself in the beef throwing subs at him so pac put him in his place real quick
Nas Reveals Jay-Z Said He Was Better Than Biggie And That Tupac And DMX Were Not Lyricists in 2000
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BlackDiBiase
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yep and it was Jays Brooklyns finest record that big was talking that slick shyt. "faith have 2 packs, get it 2 packs".
all pac said was "fck jay-z he broke and i smoke daily".
Jone2three45
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DontEemTry
Superstar
How exactly did he insert himself in the beef? AZ was in the Dead Pres video too and Pac didn't call him out even though that was Nas' man.
Jay literally said nothin about Pac but Pac called him out numerous times for some reason.
Jay was associated with Big. Thats all Pac needed.
AZ wasn’t really associated closely with Big, he was with Nas. But the Nas/Pac shyt was really just RAP shyt, which is why they were able to peace it up. Biggie and Pac’s beef had already gotten personal, Pac was going after anyone Biggie was friends with. His wife, his homies, and his associates
richaveli83
Veteran
Yup your right even 2pac said the same thing in the ORIGINAL version of bomb 1st.
Skip to 4:04
“Yall nikkas ain’t even making no noise, aye jay z straight up, ya album is weak homeboy you to small in the game to fukk with me you ain’t even on the charts you can’t fukk with me weak mouthafukka”Pac calling reasonable doubt trash
Straight savage mode
Damn never heard the original.
1995-1997 was a crazy time in hip hop!
DontEemTry
Superstar
A lot of nikkas was associated with Big is my point. So what was so special about Jay in particular according to Pac. Jay wasn't even a bad boy artist
Absolut da poet ®
Jubilado
Seems like a conscious effort to stir shyt back up.. this from 2001 interview... why would it matter now
The answer is.. It doesn't.
I prolly said I was better than Biggie in 2001 also
No one cares
I didn't and I was 17 when they battled. I didn't read Hip Hop magazines like that
A lot of nikkas was associated with Big is my point. So what was so special about Jay in particular according to Pac. Jay wasn't even a bad boy artist
MOST of the nikkas DIRECTLY associated with Big got dissed by Pac. Faith, Junior Mafia, Lil Kim, etc. Jay had Big on his album and Big made a reference to Pac ON Jay’s album. Yes it was more of a playful reference, but a reference nonetheless.
I don’t know why we’re acting like its so out of the realm of plausibility for Pac to diss Jay-Z. Yes Jay was comparably a smaller artist to Nas, Biggie at the time. But he was talented, wasn’t a complete unknown, and was aligned with Biggie. Thats ALL Pac would have needed at the time
Phantom Dreamer
All Star
this
i damn sure didn't and i've been 'seriously' (past a casual fan...collecting magazines, lurking message boards) following hip-hop for 20 years now.
this thread reeks of Jay stans staying on code trying to play past it, pretending like its ancient history everyone already knew.
a teenage former Pac stan like myself would've been outraged had i ever caught wind of this 
still am
Excellenceofelegance
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Facts bro the original version of songs be having meDamn never heard the original.
1995-1997 was a crazy time in hip hop!
at the same time , that period is so important in hip hop history it’s literally when money started coming in for rappers
Excellenceofelegance
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BOYYY!! the east coast propaganda did a number on youA lot of nikkas was associated with Big is my point. So what was so special about Jay in particular according to Pac. Jay wasn't even a bad boy artist
this nikka is dumbfounded at jay z and biggie not being innocent.
Pac Nas real beef started because Pac gave him love at the house of blues and told him what is going on with Biggie had nothing to do with him and he had love for him..Nas then went back to NY and started dissing on mixtapes ..so Pac got in his ass too.