Mixtapes didn’t “count” back then and Drake’s debut album Thank Me Later dropped in 2010
Nas, Royce, Gibbs and Jay Electronica are nominees for rap album of the year at the Grammy’s
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Mixtapes didn’t “count” back then and Drake’s debut album Thank Me Later dropped in 2010
IllmaticDelta
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she went up against Drake's first official album
Variety makes the case that both Nas and Gibbs should have received AOTY nominations in addition to their rap album noms
Why Is the Grammys 2021 Album of the Year Category Whiter Than Usual? - Variety
Why Is the Grammys 2021 Album of the Year Category Whiter Than Usual? - Variety
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Lol nikkas need to define artistic value.this not at all true
if grammys were always about artistic value
then wayne(08), Cardi(2019), and given how the coli talks about drake then he shouldnt have won either goin by coli logic.
the more artistic albums like Lupe, Nas(08 and 13), Pusha, Nip should have won going by your logic. But they didnt why? because the bigger record won. in Tha Carter, Invasion of privacy and Take care
the grammys isnt about "artistic value" at all. its about everything but that.
espescially when mostly all its selections have included giving it to the biggest record if not the whitest(eminem, maclemore)
On C3, Wayne not only had pop smashes every one loved but excelled lyrically with his metaphors and nonsequiturs and flows, and his conceptual tracks like Dr. Carter. Wayne using auto tune on Lollipop is artistic value.
Take Care dude was singing and rapping over atmospheric production that had influences of dub step, R&B, Houston chopped and screwed, pop.
This shyt isn’t artistic value but rapping about guns and coke for an entire album is?
Bondye Vodou
Proud practitioner of the "High Science"
cacs mad
That doesnt prove me wrong, yes grammys pull stuff like this at times. But with the history of Rap album of the year which is what we are talking about here,
they have given the award to either one of if not the biggest album of the year. or a white rapper in Eminem or Maclemore with prolly the only exception being Naughty by nature in 96 which was only gold,. So that doesnt negate or cancel what i said.
Not saying they are, im only playing the game of what is "artistic value" these old nikkas are playing. You got the wrong one as I think those albums are artistic in they own right. So I agree with youLol nikkas need to define artistic value.
On C3, Wayne not only had pop smashes every one loved but excelled lyrically with his metaphors and nonsequiturs and flows, and his conceptual tracks like Dr. Carter. Wayne using auto tune on Lollipop is artistic value.
Take Care dude was singing and rapping over atmospheric production that had influences of dub step, R&B, Houston chopped and screwed, pop.
This shyt isn’t artistic value but rapping about guns and coke for an entire album is?
they saying Grammys value "artistic value" which i guess they insuinating by them doing that its why Baby and rod aint on here nominated and using Outkast win over 50 as a example.
Which is stupid because Rod and Baby are artistic in they own right and personally i think more so than people think
im a nas fan but Kings disease is not a album i would use as great "artistic" work.
DaveyDave
Superstar
The crazy thing is I'm looking at my Apple Music "AOTY2020" playlist (I always put my favorite projects each year on a playlist) and out of the almost 400 songs (about 25 LPs and EPs I have on there for 2020), it never crossed my mind to put his on there.
And it's his best work in at least 10 years too
What’s in that playlist breh
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
That’s what I’m saying my nikkaThat doesnt prove me wrong, yes grammys pull stuff like this at times. But with the history of Rap album of the year which is what we are talking about here,
they have given the award to either one of if not the biggest album of the year. or a white rapper in Eminem or Maclemore with prolly the only exception being Naughty by nature in 96 which was only gold,. So that doesnt negate or cancel what i said.
Not saying they are, im only playing the game of what is "artistic value" these old nikkas are playing. You got the wrong one as I think those albums are artistic in they own right. So I agree with you
they saying Grammys value "artistic value" which i guess they insuinating by them doing that its why Baby and rod aint on here nominated and using Outkast win over 50 as a example.
Which is stupid because Rod and Baby are artistic in they own right and personally i think more so than the people who were nominated here.
im a nas fan but Kings disease is not a album i would use as great "artistic" work.
What the fukk is artistic value?
The way Lil Baby can put emotion in his music, utilizes auto tune, the authenticity and conviction in his voice and rhymes, the versatility he has displayed in the past year from street records, to conscious records, to R&B records, to dance records. That’s artistic value.
Roddy can sit here rap melodies and play the piano at the same time that’s artistic value
Pusha makes a Drake diss record and then 6 songs about coke which he’s been doing for 20 years, has Kanye gives him the beats, and chooses a controversial of Whitney Houston’s bathroom as the cover.
The fukking artistry breh what artistic value
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Rap is poetry, artistically, as in poetically Pusha is on a whole other level than Roddy Rich.
Pop is the least artistic genre, and it has loads of artists who can actually sing and play instruments way better than Roddy, Roddy can sing and construct hits, he’s a good artist, he can’t rap anywhere near to the level of Pusha T though.
That’s what I’m saying my nikka
What the fukk is artistic value?
The way Lil Baby can put emotion in his music, utilizes auto tune, the authenticity and conviction in his voice and rhymes, the versatility he has displayed in the past year from street records, to conscious records, to R&B records, to dance records. That’s artistic value.
Roddy can sit here rap melodies and play the piano at the same time that’s artistic value
Pusha makes a Drake diss record and then 6 songs about coke which he’s been doing for 20 years, has Kanye gives him the beats, and chooses a controversial of Whitney Houston’s bathroom as the cover.
The fukking artistry breh what artistic value
Rap is poetry, artistically, as in poetically Pusha is on a whole other level than Roddy Rich.
Pop is the least artistic genre, and it has loads of artists who can actually sing and play instruments way better than Roddy, Roddy can sing and construct hits, he’s a good artist, he can’t rap anywhere near to the level of Pusha T though.
All of this is easily solved by doing for rap what they’ve BEEN doing for Rock, R&B, and Pop
two album categories for the Rap genre. Best Contemporary Rap Album (for the Lil’s, Youngs, NBA’s) and Best Traditional Hip Hop Album (for the lyricists and more underground MC’s)
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
It’s more than poetry. The guy who can rap, who also sings and has melodies, who can also play an instrument is more talented than a nikka with a limited array of flows and really one subject matter.
His verse that was supposed to be on Pop Smoke album was just a bunch of forced corny wordplay.
Those artists above Drake, Wayne, Roddy, Baby have more artistic value and their albums demand way more artistry.
Wayne did the dope boy shyt as good as anyone on C1 he moved on started experimenting with melodies, flows, singing, started using more devices in his lyricism, delved into multiple genres from rock to pop to R&B, changed his aesthetic multiple times. That’s artistic value and why Wayne went on to be one of the most influential rappers of All-Time.
Pusha on the other hand has always been the same nikka.
Only ten black artists have ever won Album Of The Year and of those ten only two rap artists.
Lauren Hill
Outkast
