Nas - The GOAT inspired it was written

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Remember how Pac Biggie's mentor and Biggie at one point even wanted him to manage him. Biggie was literally a part of Pac's group. Pac was the leader of said group.
LOL so u skip over what the producer said to remain living in ya fantasies. Got it. Just admit Biggie influenced ya nikka and keep it moving.




It’s disgusting how nikkas don’t know how etherous this song is. :banderas:
 

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They both got inspired by each other and in turned people (Ghost/Rae) or themselves saw it as copying one another

Known this for decades
 

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1. Biggie always did dem kinda intros, go revisit RTD
2. Story telling joints, lmao go revisit RTD
3. Dr Dre beat an vocals? Dre and Snoop influenced RTD, go revisit the album.
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To points 1 and 2, I was referring to how they were sequenced on both albums. Nowhere did I say Biggie got the concepts for his intro or that he never had storytelling joints until Nas. Never said that. In regard to "Somebody Gotta Die", there's this:

And now the projects is talkin' that somebody-gotta-die shyt
It's logic — as long as it's nobody that's in my clique--- Nas, "Affirmative Action"

To point 3, please direct me to where Ready To Die featured a West Coast artist. I'll wait.
 
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Took home, ready to die, listened, studied shyt
Now they on some money shyt, successful out the blue:ohhh:

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To points 1 and 2, I was referring to how they were sequenced on both albums. Nowhere did I say Biggie got the concepts for his intro or that he never had storytelling joints until Nas. Never said that. In regard to "Somebody Gotta Die", there's this:

And now the projects is talkin' that somebody-gotta-die shyt
It's logic — as long as it's nobody that's in my clique--- Nas, "Affirmative Action"

To point 3, please direct me to where Ready To Die featured a West Coast artist. I'll wait.
1. How is it sequenced? In fact Nas intro on IWW sounds like it was influenced from RTD.
2. Biggie’s street stories sound more akin to Face’s to me



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3. Nas channeled the West Coast after he heard RTD, before that he was a ruff QB street poet, maybe BIG got the idea of doing features with artists from other regions from IWW But Biggie is the reason nas was channeling the west coast in the first place. Biggie’s whole style is heavily influenced by the west coast, from adlibs to flows (King Tee), to beats, to sub-genres he explored (e.g. mack/playa/dirty raps). Biggie was always a Too Short stan.

 
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1. How is it sequenced? In fact Nas intro on IWW sounds like it was influenced from RTD.
Track 1- is the Intro on both albums. This would be no big deal, but then there's Track 2- which is loosely a storytelling joint on both albums. Track 3 is the single on both albums. Track 4 is the Premo joint on both albums. Track 5 is a smooth joint on both albums. Track 6 is a grimey joint on both albums.
2. Biggie’s street story’s sound more akin to Face’s to me
Both of them were inspired by Scarface, but that wasn't my point
maybe BIG got the idea of doing features with artists from other regions from IWW
This is what I was getting at with the Dre mention.
 

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Track 1- is the Intro on both albums. This would be no big deal, but then there's Track 2- which is loosely a storytelling joint on both albums. Track 3 is the single on both albums. Track 4 is the Premo joint on both albums. Track 5 is a smooth joint on both albums. Track 6 is a grimey joint on both albums.

Both of them were inspired by Scarface, but that wasn't my point

This is what I was getting at with the Dre mention.
Fair enough
 

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Both of them influenced each other, because that's how it is when greats are in the game and it's competitive. That time was hella competitive anyway, people really wanted to be the best, and make the best albums, and have the most hits, etc... some dudes were just content to make decent music and be in the game but some of these nikkas were going for the spot. That's what made that era so great, cause it felt like so many of the top MCs and some of the ones on the come-up were hearing each other's projects, seeing each other's successes, and trying to respectfully (or sometimes not so respectfully) outdo each other. In the process, they made better music, kept raising the bar. That's what I think was missing from some later eras, where it just seemed like a lot of nikkas got comfortable and were just happy to be here and make money. And that's why the ones who made music like they had a point to prove were the ones who stood out most and are most remembered from their eras.

I really wish that BIG/Nas competition got a chance to keep going, it was just building and hadn't gotten to its full potential yet. They were in their throwing shots stage that probably would have been raised after "Kick In The Door". Nas probably would've had a rebuttal, then BIG with his, and so on... Firm vs Commission? :whew:
 
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