Nationwide fast food strike on May 15th :ehh:

[CrimsonTider]

If their wages go up the cost of goods will go up and they will be right back complaining about wages

The cost if goods are going up with or workout a wage increase

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

If their wages go up the cost of goods will go up and they will be right back complaining about wages

Do you people not understand that the cost of EVERYTHING has gone up repeatedly?

How do you people not realize we got into the 1% versus 99% because wages have not increased at all over the last 20 years?

People from all walks of life no matter what their job should follow the fast food workers example and fight for better wages. Not debate wether they deserve more money.

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

Ahem. I went to school on a full scholarship + some other things (basically, I got paid to go to school) and I gotta disagree with what you're saying. Long post, if you don't wanna read, that's cool though.

Jobs like fast food, retail, etc. are not comparable to traditional "office"/corporate jobs in term of (a) responsibility (b) skill level required (c) output.

Yes, A desk job maybe physically "easy", but if I'm working for a security firm and I fukk up some small shyt on some paperwork, I could potentially run a lot of risks for my company and whatever companies that employ our services, perhaps in the hundred thousands to millions of dollar range and ample time has to be spent to fix that. In the name of taking on that pressure and responsibility, I am given higher pay. You fukk up a burger at McDonalds, nothing is really lost. The store probably loses less than 50 cent on a messed up burger and practically no time since fast food places like McDonalds premake most of their food and have it made already, maybe 2-3 minutes lost at most. I have a very good friend who works fast food we talk often about how different it is from corporate to fast food. His fast food gig is virtually no responsibility at all and he acknowledges the difference on a corporate level. Low risk, low reward situation.

Also, when you also look at the way the world economy is shifting, basically encouraging people low skill jobs instead of training for higher skilled ones will not make us competitive in the global market.

Y'all are acting like there's not a difference, but there is: You make a computer program, you have created a business solution that can be used at multiple companies in different ways to help them solve their problem. You make a burger from McDonalds, it is probably made wrong + have given someone the shyts. Y'all seriously think that is the same though?

It reminds me of the movie Idiocracy. There's no need for education or to be educated because even the dumbest people are able to have money in abundance though they contribute relatively nothing to society but (wrongly) consumed products (fattening burgers and fries). Because of it, society grows stagnant and actually very stupid with very low output.

Plus, I find it hard to believe that most of the people working at McDonalds do so because they want to, but more so because they had to. It has been a tough time for jobs. A lot of them probably expect more pay because of a previous job they held (Let's be reality, fast food is a job for teenagers, released convicts, and older people who just want to get out the house). Why not push to create more jobs, which is again, something that benefits EVERYONE, without shifting the way the economy functions. Throwing them $15 is a lazy solution that still does not solve the problem, just puts a band-aid over it. The salary market was great at one point because you had an ABUNDANCE of jobs and it was an employee's market. Now it's an employers market and this is what's happening. Y'all probably think it's cool to throw $15 an hour at grown adults who still will have no savings, no retirement plan, shytty healthcare, etc.

I am not 100% against $15/hour for fast food workers, but I don't think it will really solve anything and I think there are a plethora of better solutions that actually will fix things. Upping everyone's wage will definitely give people more money to spend, but if I am a business owner and I know that you know have more money, chances are I'm going to charge you more for the same product to take advantage of such anyway. That's a quick win, but long term loss solution to me.

My whole point was to say that people who went to school, got the debt are kind of being written off as glorified phone jockeys while everyone seems to overvalue a fast-food worker's worth.

If I'm one of those phone jockeys and my little nephew at Wendy's is making what I make, I'd feel some type of way about it

That's a reason why fast-food workers have trouble garnering real support for a wage increase; People simply don't value their work, whether it's right or wrong

Either way it goes, I don't think a simple wage change does anything unless the powers that be are forced to do something about the cost of living and services. I wouldn't advocate against the strike, tho. If they can get the raise, so be it

 

[kp404]

If their wages go up the cost of goods will go up and they will be right back complaining about wages

which goes to show how fukked up the system is...the workers aren't the problem is what you are saying and I agree

 

[kp404]

Do you people not understand that the cost of EVERYTHING has gone up repeatedly?

How do you people not realize we got into the 1% versus 99% because wages have not increased at all over the last 20 years?

People from all walks of life no matter what their job should follow the fast food workers example and fight for better wages. Not debate wether they deserve more money.

EXACTLY. Dapped and repped.

 

[FUPA]

I always find the contradictory rhetoric concerning CEO salaries to be funny. In this same thread, if it goes on long enough, you will have a lot of people in here saying "Well, who are you tell tell minimum wage workers how much they should make and that they should limit themselves by not asking for more!"...

.... but then in that same breath spit rhetoric about what CEOs should ask to make or what CEOs should make.



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Also, working is fast food is about to die out. Robots are gonna be in the stores working the cash registers in the coming years. For some reason people still find it fun and cool to tell fast food workers they don't need skills/education. I hope you all are prepared to take care of them when they are replaced by a computer.

People travel from countries around the world to be educated in America, people damn near face death and going broke world wide to pay for education and we have people on this board making a mockery of education and it's value to society. Only in America.

If you run the business you deserve as much as you can get. When you a worker you get what you are worth nothing...

I already have 3 fast food places around me that have 1 worker at front at 3 kiosks where i input my order pay and dont have to deal with no one its perfect.

 

[kp404]

Huh? You join the public work force knowing going in you'll have stability and benefits but a lower salary and less flexibility.

Just because you know something doesn't make it right; the majority of the people in the working class are just trying to feed their families breh. What other choice do they have but to go into the public sector? The 1% complains about govt benefits, so they go work in minimum wage and can barely survive (some don't survive)...my argument is that the system fukks over the working class

 

[Mordith]

Side with Corporations rather than your fellow man brehs.....

I

 

[IAmGettingAMailOrderBride]

We need a socialist economy

Straight up

 

[iBrowse]

Unreasonable is feeding your family? Some of you dudes who make these statements need to actually go live in or at least visit these poor black communities and you will see its not so easy as you think

It's been said before, but it's sad that this is a reality...I'm only 25 but I know about how these jobs were seen as temporary positions you put your kids in after school or even during college for some extra change..now it's a fukking career for people.

This thread reminds me that I'm with 1st World Problems

 

[HookersandIceCream]

I always find the contradictory rhetoric concerning CEO salaries to be funny. In this same thread, if it goes on long enough, you will have a lot of people in here saying "Well, who are you tell tell minimum wage workers how much they should make and that they should limit themselves by not asking for more!"...

.... but then in that same breath spit rhetoric about what CEOs should ask to make or what CEOs should make.



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Also, working is fast food is about to die out. Robots are gonna be in the stores working the cash registers in the coming years. For some reason people still find it fun and cool to tell fast food workers they don't need skills/education. I hope you all are prepared to take care of them when they are replaced by a computer.

People travel from countries around the world to be educated in America, people damn near face death and going broke world wide to pay for education and we have people on this board making a mockery of education and it's value to society. Only in America.

Everything will be taken over by robots. Look at all the office jobs where people post online all day.
Those people are just as expandable

 

[kp404]

We need a socialist economy

Straight up

It has never been done before in the right way so it would be interesting to see for the first time

 

[DaChampIsHere]

People simply don't value their work

That's because it's not valuable work breh. It's seriously not.

Why robots could soon replace fast food workers demanding higher minimum wage - Blog - MyNorthwest.com

That's the future.

You are trying to convince people that it's valuable, but I'd say the guy who can build that robot is the valuable one. I'd say the person who can market and sell that to a company for me under a very nice contract is valuable. I'd say someone who can handle all the paperwork for that is valuable. Someone who can get all the legal work done around it is valuable. Shiet, even the person who can oversee the machines/robots, they are valuable.

We seriously have to get people OUT of these fields, not make it comfortable for them to be there. Pitting it against getting an education and making it seem like people who are educated are just jealous actually does a real disservice to fast food workers. I can't support it fully, because acting like they aren't easily replaceable is actually a disservice to them. I don't want any +40 year old working at McDonalds with no savings, no retirement, bad healthcare. To me, a problem wasn't fixed, just made comfortable.

People are dying and leaving their families world wide to get educations. Y'all are acting like it's something just so trivial and meaningless.

 

[Will Ross]

You guys don't seem to understand that most people are not making 15Hr and they have skills.

 

[The Nigerian]

There's millions of college graduates in America today still not making $15/hr. These dudes think they deserve that kinda loot for reheating processed food?

One of my good friends makes is a college graduate making $20k a year and the only reason why they can get away with paying him so little is because people can get away with paying fast food workers even less.

A hard days work should be valued enough to make for a livable wage in a civilized society.