Nationwide fast food strike on May 15th :ehh:

[kp404]

You guys don't seem to understand that most people are not making 15Hr and they have skills.

Anybody that is not making over minimum wage is being grossly exploited and wages must go up for everyone, not just fast food workers, everyone!

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Everything will be taken over by robots. Look at all the office jobs where people post online all day.
Those people are just as expandable

Not feasible breh. What you are saying now is that corporations will effectively decimate majority of their consumer base with money. Who's gonna buy products if everyone is out of a job? It's a good futuristic conspiracy theory though.

Plus most people's job require some sort of social nuance that can't be replicated by a computer. If anything, a lot of things will become less corporate and more independently owned (ie. Being able to 3D print a dental implant instead of going to a factory for one. You still need an engineer, designer, someone to collect the molding from the human, etc.)

 

[Action Jackson]

Look at how much McDs is making off their employees.. And y'all wanna bytch like it's your money. This is a start, other companies and jobs will follow. Bout time our wages caught up with the cost of living.

 

[Will Ross]

Look at how much McDs is making off their employees.. And y'all wanna bytch like it's your money. This is a start, other companies and jobs will follow. Bout time our wages caught up with the cost of living.

They could easily pay them 15 an hr. But can the small soul food place pay the same as McDonald's?
And guess what will happen that small soul food place will have to shut down because they can't afford that 15 hr.

 

[Malta]

Side with Corporations rather than your fellow man brehs.....

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You really gotta give it to the people at the top, their ability to play the common man against one another is just

 

[TooLazyToMakeUp1]

That's because it's not valuable work breh. It's seriously not.

Why robots could soon replace fast food workers demanding higher minimum wage - Blog - MyNorthwest.com

That's the future.

You are trying to convince people that it's valuable, but I'd say the guy who can build that robot is the valuable one. I'd say the person who can market and sell that to a company for me under a very nice contract is valuable. I'd say someone who can handle all the paperwork for that is valuable. Someone who can get all the legal work done around it is valuable. Shiet, even the person who can oversee the machines/robots, they are valuable.

We seriously have to get people OUT of these fields, not make it comfortable for them to be there. Pitting it against getting an education and making it seem like people who are educated are just jealous actually does a real disservice to fast food workers. I can't support it fully, because acting like they aren't easily replaceable is actually a disservice to them. I don't want any +40 year old working at McDonalds with no savings, no retirement, bad healthcare. To me, a problem wasn't fixed, just made comfortable.

People are dying and leaving their families world wide to get educations. Y'all are acting like it's something just so trivial and meaningless.

That's part of what I'm saying. The same people devaluing the work somone with an education does are the same ones overvaluing a low wage fast food worker

I will admit that I'm struggling with my own wording because: What is the true value of anyone's work given the current system?

You get what you can bargain over the minimum. It's not realistic to me to think that people can walk away from these jobs, even if they know that they can be replaced, but if it's all they have, they have to bargain to see what they can get because they have bills to


I just got my degree pretty much for free, but I'm going to milk it for what I think it's worth

 

[kp404]

They could easily pay them 15 an hr. But can the small soul food place pay the same as McDonald's?
And guess what will happen that small soul food place will have to shut down because they can't afford that 15 hr.

They are already shutting down black owned businesses across the nation so that's not a worthy argument. The fact remains that the fast food corporation can triple the salaries of their workers and still make a ridiculously high profit with the same prices but choose not to because they are greedy. let's keep it real here.

 

[kp404]

You really gotta give it to the people at the top, their ability to play the common man against one another is just

its really amazing how well they play that game...that history is craaaaaazy; Du Bois and David Roediger detail all that how the owners manipulate the workers to hate each other; shyt is crazy breh

 

[Supercoolmayo]

You really gotta give it to the people at the top, their ability to play the common man against one another is just

Works with black folks, works with everyone else

 

[iBrowse]

Its just like a trap, getting even a interview now is a huge thing.Getting a job offer is another huge thing, but they hit you with some low ass random number, its like take it and tough it out and hopefully find something better while employed, or don't take it and make 0 money, something is better than nothing people say .



And lets speak on these interviews now, they call them "recruitment sessions" which is a huge ass red flag. Like im gonna sit all day at some hotel, to be auctioned off like im a slave. Its like you got my resume and you wouldn't have even considered me if you didn't see something you liked or if I didn't meet the requirements. You like what you see call me and make a job offer if not keep the shyt moving.

shyt lets not even talk about the "interviews" apparently HR in some companies is a fukking automated system that scans your resumes for keywords or phrases that they set into the system (because they require that you just send your resume online)!

Then you got college grads happily taking unpaid internships at companies/firms assuming that through doing nothing at said firm that has to do with what you want your career to be (e.g. taking out trash, getting the starbucks, mopping, etc.); you'd get the position you want.

Man to make it even more ignant...these firms are like some females, they don't want you when you don't have a job, but then want you once you got one....I graduated 2012...sent out a meager 30 applications. My first response was December 2012; second was March 2013; third was August 2013; fourth was January 2014 and the fifth was via email last fukking month breh...

 

[MAKAVELI25]

You really gotta give it to the people at the top, their ability to play the common man against one another is just

Rich white men have had the troll game on luck for centuries. Enslave Africans, Conquer most of the known world, Imperialize Eastern Asia, then sit back and have minorities (as well as poor whites) fighting among themselves and jockeying to be your best friend, brehs

 

[iBrowse]

Ive lost 20 pounds now that im weight lifting and training again. I can spoil myself every now and then friend. My training is so rigorous. Tonight ill be grappling for an hour and a half. Please understand the burn i feel.

Friend, I have to be honest...I just ate two donuts at work...but I have a rigorous training session today and will burn them off and then some.

#Honesty

 

[iBrowse]

Can you blame them? Those phone answerers got college loans because the workforce required them to get a degree. Misdirected anger / resentment, yes, but it's understandable when students have been told, " Go to school or end up broke and flipping burgers" only to potentially end up making the same wage

That ether goddamn.

I was thinking about this the moment this issue hit the national spotlight....some people who got degrees are gonna be @ fast food employes. shyt even I was to a certain extent until I got my raise.

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Friend, I have to be honest...I just ate two donuts at work...but I have a rigorous training session today and will burn them off and then some.

#Honesty

Im in my 30s friend and my metabolism has slowed down. I cannot eat like you guys without feeling the effects so brazillian Jiujitsu and more necessary for me when i have those moments of weakness.

 

[iBrowse]

Ahem. I went to school on a full scholarship + some other things (basically, I got paid to go to school) and I gotta disagree with what you're saying. Long post, if you don't wanna read, that's cool though.

Jobs like fast food, retail, etc. are not comparable to traditional "office"/corporate jobs in term of (a) responsibility (b) skill level required (c) output.

Yes, A desk job maybe physically "easy", but if I'm working for a security firm and I fukk up some small shyt on some paperwork, I could potentially run a lot of risks for my company and whatever companies that employ our services, perhaps in the hundred thousands to millions of dollar range and ample time has to be spent to fix that. In the name of taking on that pressure and responsibility, I am given higher pay. You fukk up a burger at McDonalds, nothing is really lost. The store probably loses less than 50 cent on a messed up burger and practically no time since fast food places like McDonalds premake most of their food and have it made already, maybe 2-3 minutes lost at most. I have a very good friend who works fast food we talk often about how different it is from corporate to fast food. His fast food gig is virtually no responsibility at all and he acknowledges the difference on a corporate level. Low risk, low reward situation.

Also, when you also look at the way the world economy is shifting, basically encouraging people low skill jobs instead of training for higher skilled ones will not make us competitive in the global market.

Y'all are acting like there's not a difference, but there is: You make a computer program, you have created a business solution that can be used at multiple companies in different ways to help them solve their problem. You make a burger from McDonalds, it is probably made wrong + have given someone the shyts. Y'all seriously think that is the same though?

It reminds me of the movie Idiocracy. There's no need for education or to be educated because even the dumbest people are able to have money in abundance though they contribute relatively nothing to society but (wrongly) consumed products (fattening burgers and fries). Because of it, society grows stagnant and actually very stupid with very low output.

Plus, I find it hard to believe that most of the people working at McDonalds do so because they want to, but more so because they had to. It has been a tough time for jobs. A lot of them probably expect more pay because of a previous job they held (Let's be reality, fast food is a job for teenagers, released convicts, and older people who just want to get out the house). Why not push to create more jobs, which is again, something that benefits EVERYONE, without shifting the way the economy functions. Throwing them $15 is a lazy solution that still does not solve the problem, just puts a band-aid over it. The salary market was great at one point because you had an ABUNDANCE of jobs and it was an employee's market. Now it's an employers market and this is what's happening. Y'all probably think it's cool to throw $15 an hour at grown adults who still will have no savings, no retirement plan, shytty healthcare, etc.

I am not 100% against $15/hour for fast food workers, but I don't think it will really solve anything and I think there are a plethora of better solutions that actually will fix things. Upping everyone's wage will definitely give people more money to spend, but if I am a business owner and I know that you know have more money, chances are I'm going to charge you more for the same product to take advantage of such anyway. That's a quick win, but long term loss solution to me.

Wow...hope no one skips this post great breakdown on the juxtaposition between the two jobs as well. dap and +rep