Native Tongues have more classics than Wu-Tang, Deathrow or any other crew

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whats ya # is the worst song of 96 possibly. it's filled with fluff. cut it to one "book" and it gets waaaay better.

and forever didn't fail. it's their highest selling album. sold over 2 million units with no radio jingles.
I love waht's your phone number as well as the song it samples.
No need to cut to one book when both rocked and had many records the public was bumping.
What's a "radio jingle"?
 

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I love waht's your phone number as well as the song it samples.
No need to cut to one book when both rocked and had many records the public was bumping.
What's a "radio jingle"?

a radio jingle is something obviously reaching for radio play.
 

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They're not all classics. Enter the Wu Tang and Cuban Linx for sure. Liquid Swords, SC, and Iron Man are arguably. Maybe Forever is arguable but that's a stretch. Nothing else on that list is a classic.
Nah you talking out your ass :heh:
SC, Ironman and liquid swords, Forever are as cemented as any NT project, besides 3 feet high and low end theory. Return to the 36 chambers, and Fishscale are more classic then not.

Thats 6 classics, and 2 on the fence.
 

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I actually agree that they do.

Tribe had 3 classics
De La has 3 classics

Black Sheep has 1 classic
Jungle Brothers have 1 classic

(Not even counting Pharcyde, Brand Nubian, Common, Mos Def)

Wu has 2
Rae has 1
Ghost has 2
GZA has 1

Death Row
Snoop has 1
Dre has 1
Dogg Pound has 1
2Pac has 2

tribe is my favorite group of all time but i'd safely say 2 classic

in no world does de la have 3 classics :childplease:

you're being very liberal with the term UNIVERSAL classics
 

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It's like this for me when discussing classic albums: If you're in a group of dudes that are all well learned, avid, educated hip hop fans would you feel the albums you believe are classic would be considered classics with the rest of them? While in that group, and the classic album conversation arose, would you lump Jungle Brothers and Black Sheep albums in with The Chronic, Illmatic, Ready to Die or Infamous? No. So it's not a classic. Let's stop diluting the word in the culture.
Yes I would and most people that know their history would. The culture changed so much since those albums dropped that those albums don't hold the same stature as those mid 90s albums because the Jungle Bros and Black Sheep aren't revered like the others. But that has nothing to do with impact and quality. It has to do with them just not being mentioned anymore. Once gangster rap came into the forefront most artists that had their style, fell off. De La and Tribe continued to proposer in that time because they were more elite artists. But the lack of recognition that period of rap gets now, has way more to do with the culture shift then it has to do with anything else. People educated in the culture would most certainly put those two albums in the classic category. Specifically the Jungle Bros album which made a huge impact the time it dropped. The impact of those albums aren't championed like the others because that era of rap is largely forgotten but no Jungle Bros album and no Tribe Calles Quest because they laid the blueprint and introduced the world to them. Q-Tip himself will say that.
 
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