NBA as we know it.. Is done

[hayesc0]

Is the NBA the only sport where people have an issue with players getting paid?

Is it because the players are so visible?

Its funny how that capitalism and supply and demand bs goes out the window when it comes to nba players.

 

[ghostwriterx]

A.Hard cap
B.shorten rookie deals to 3 years
c. No max on how much a player can make
D. Remove the ability to go over the cap to keep your own players
e. Allow teams to frontload by 12.5 percent each year

Set the cap at lets say, 125 million for next year

Contracts are fully guaranteed, but you can release players. When they get released, they go to whichever team makes the highest bid. However much that team bids gets removed from your cap hit.

Teams wont be able to have 3 all stars like cleveland

Tanking wont be so easy when rookie deals only last for 3 years

A team might pay lebron 50 mil, but they wont give it to millsap in this situation

Hard cap isn't capitalism.

 

[GoonbergScandal]

These dudes are really in here arguing against players getting paid in a free market economy.

The mid, to late 90s had some shytty contracts also like the Juwon Howard, and Jim McIlvaine contracts.

 

[GoonbergScandal]

I remember the Seattle Supersonics gave Jim Mcllcvaine the max after having a few solid games off the bench where he had some sick blocks and rebounding numbers when he played for the Bullets the season before. He instantly became a bum after the Sonics gave him that big contract that following summer.

 

[LV Koopa]

As someone who has written about the NBA economic picture quite a few times I can safely say OP is a moron. Once you sit down and look at the NBA business model and stop losing your dikk over big numbers you'll see players are underpaid. The true worth of star players in north of 30mil per year easily, and for 60 mil some owners wouldn't even bat an eyelash.

You want to complain? Start with how unfair the draft is to players, the lie of "competitive balance", and the absurd stupidity of teams having the rights to a player for 8 years of their career far below their value. Then talk about the player having to take a paycut of upwards of ~13 mil to potentially leave the team early. THEN talk about how lottery picks and first rounders get screwed because later picks can sign for more $$ if they work out but these earlier guys are stuck locked into unfair contracts.

Until then shut the fukk up.

 

[sportscribe]

That $24 billion deal is exactly why they could collapse. Somebody has to pay it.

As we move forward in the digital era, television as an industry may not be able to generate the money it once did. You have a younger generation of fans with shorter attention spans that live on youtube clips.

Yeah someone has to foot the bill for the $24bn TV rights deal, and that is the networks. They are tied into a long-term contract where a major network will pay them yearly for the rights to broadcast their content. ABC is owned by the Walt Disney Corporation.. a multibillion dollar company. I think it's a safe bet that the money due to them is contractually guaranteed.

Your argument about the digital era doesn't hold up. The NBA's revenue is actually increasing.. in fact this year's NBA finals was the most viewed since 1998. This is why ABC felt it was a safe bet to shell out such a sum for the TV rights. Furthermore, live sports, unlike TV shows haven't felt the dwindling viewership from on-demand TV. This is because live sports is more about instant gratification.

 

[Greenstrings]

He said that he worded it poorly and he meant what im saying though..... thats what im going off breh

Even if he meant what you're saying the premise is still dumb. The cap increases change nothing. The "NBA as we know it" is still exactly what it was and the only difference is bigger numbers.

There are 30 teams. There aren't enough stars in the league to satisfy what you're looking for. As long as there is any kind of cap the situation will remain more or less the same. Certain teams will have to take chances/overpay overpay sub par players to fill out rosters.

 

[LV Koopa]

These dudes are really in here arguing against players getting paid in a free market economy.

NBA isn't a free market economy though. But yea dudes are something else when it comes to other people's money.

That $24 billion deal is exactly why they could collapse. Somebody has to pay it.

As we move forward in the digital era, television as an industry may not be able to generate the money it once did. You have a younger generation of fans with shorter attention spans that live on youtube clips.

The league isn't going to fall apart tomorrow. But $24 billion being tossed around like it's nothing, organizations have collapsed like a deck of cards over much less.

This is quite wrong. Live sports are the biggest in demand product for TV viewers. That's why bidding wars for league rights are so crazy. TV viewers for live sports aren't going down at all. They are actually increasing. The digital content just makes them more valuable, not less. Because of social media every game is an event in itself. No league benefits more from social media than the NBA, and they definitely aren't going to collapse from an infusion of $24 billion, especially when it's damn near impossible for teams to fail.

Hard cap isn't capitalism.

Bingo. I have a saying. In America everyone spouts capitalism but when it comes to other people's money they get socialist on their principles.

 

[tremonthustler1]

yup, but that's because of the owners lying about losing money. They want to have their cake and eat it too as far as making money not only on the team value increasing throughout the years, but operationally every year as well.

They weren't lying.

They were losing money.


Now everyone's eating except BK

 

[triplehate]

Leagues are not supposed to be balanced. Because you were never able to watch those other teams.

Regular season is for season ticket holders, playoffs are for casuals.

Every problem that is trying to be "fixed" has existed forever. Shorten the schedule, less back to backs, competitive balance etc...

The league revenue that everybody is splurging with is from the tv contracts. TNT, ESPN/ABC. Not them shyts we watch on FoxSportsNet cause we die hards.

We are a small niche, changes don't need to be made with us in mind.


Gonna watch regardless.

Milwaukee vs Sacramento is still Milwaukee vs Sacramento don't matter how competitive we claim it to be

 

[DjMe]

No this season is worst than 1996. Role players are making twice as much as a lot of allstar caliber players from 1996 smh. Brandon Knight and Middleton getting 70 mill a year is too much for guys that only had one or two good seasons in the league. Looking back, 1996 wasn't as nearly as bad as the early 2000s. players like Eric Dampier, Eddy Curry and Raef Lefrentz were getting max deals from 50 to 80 mill a year.

This is some of the dumbest sh*t i've read on here, and that's saying alot, because this site has some of the most ignorant people that have found their way onto the internet.

BRA--youre getting mad about professional athletes are making more than they did 20 years ago.

you want guys to be making that charlie ward money forever, because that's how it was in 1996, and that's how the world should stay forever?

 

[GoonbergScandal]

Leagues are not supposed to be balanced. Because you were never able to watch those other teams.

Regular season is for season ticket holders, playoffs are for casuals.

Every problem that is trying to be "fixed" has existed forever. Shorten the schedule, less back to backs, competitive balance etc...

The league revenue that everybody is splurging with is from the tv contracts. TNT, ESPN/ABC. Not them shyts we watch on FoxSportsNet cause we die hards.

We are a small niche, changes don't need to be made with us in mind.


Gonna watch regardless.

Milwaukee vs Sacramento is still Milwaukee vs Sacramento don't matter how competitive we claim it to be

The quality of basketball has gone downhill. Nobody watches regular season games anymore.

 

[Supercoolmayo]

I better not see any of you guys defending the owners next lockout. They are the ones giving out these contracts

 

[Rekkapryde]

They weren't lying.

They were losing money.


Now everyone's eating except BK

losing money operationally maybe, but you can't ignore the team valuation part.

 

[Squirrel from Meteor Man]

Prepare for the lockout