NBA needs to change rebound stats.

[K-ZOE]

Clyde Frazier and Mike Breen were talking about this once and I agree with Clyde. They credit Tyson for rebounds when he does the tip out. But sometimes his tip outs go into the back court and a Knick recovers it, yet the reb goes to Tyson. Clyde was like if you can go in the backcourt and keep possession its not a rebound, it's a loose ball. Oh well that's my Center inflating his stats.

 

[beenz]

Wth is up with getting a rebound for slapping a ball out of the air and luckily your teammate gets ball. ie: Tyson Chandler.

Those are probably some of the most valuable rebounds, fukk you talking about?

I didn't know you get the credit for backtapping the ball until this year. I do think that the person who actually posseses the ball after the missed shot should get the rebound.

kinda works the same way as it does on offense where you get credit for an offensive rebound just for tipping the ball regardless of if it goes back in.

 

[TrillaMonsoon]

Ben Wallace got a lot of rebounds this way.

I think the tapper should get the rebound. Rarely when guys like Chandler or Noah do the tap backs do the other teams get the ball or does it go out of bounds. It's not a random slap at the ball like a lot of you are making it out to be. It's a great strategy if the defending team is crashing the boards and you aren't in position to grab the rebound with two hands. You know hitting it backwards is probably gonna land in a guards hands

 

[23Barrettcity]

I agree, Tyson Chandler would probably average 2-3 rebounds a game if things were different.

This ain't volley ball nikka

And Brook lopez would still be a floppy faced bytch have fun being in our shadow nicca I heard it gets cold there

I dont understand, did the team not gain/keep possession of the ball?

Maybe you're just not properly defining what a rebound is?

Pretty much why they give it to him. But only if the team gains possession

 

[23Barrettcity]

Ben Wallace got a lot of rebounds this way.

I think the tapper should get the rebound. Rarely when guys like Chandler or Noah do the tap backs do the other teams get the ball or does it go out of bounds. It's not a random slap at the ball like a lot of you are making it out to be. It's a great strategy if the defending team is crashing the boards and you aren't in position to grab the rebound with two hands. You know hitting it backwards is probably gonna land in a guards hands

Exactly . Chandler practices this since he knows the team doesn't crash the boards well . The guards stay back to receive the ball since they know he does it

Clyde Frazier and Mike Breen were talking about this once and I agree with Clyde. They credit Tyson for rebounds when he does the tip out. But sometimes his tip outs go into the back court and a Knick recovers it, yet the reb goes to Tyson. Clyde was like if you can go in the backcourt and keep possession its not a rebound, it's a loose ball. Oh well that's my Center inflating his stats.

Clyde is being a hater . It's a controlled back tap , how bout Clyde worry about checking Breen when he's hating on melo or getting extra giddy seeing other teams stars go off

I didn't know you get the credit for backtapping the ball until this year. I do think that the person who actually posseses the ball after the missed shot should get the rebound.

kinda works the same way as it does on offense where you get credit for an offensive rebound just for tipping the ball regardless of if it goes back in.

The team is only able to gain possession due to the Back tap and yes chandler does it on purpose

 

[GreatestLaker]

Exactly . Chandler practices this since he knows the team doesn't crash the boards well . The guards stay back to receive the ball since they know he does it

Clyde is being a hater . It's a controlled back tap , how bout Clyde worry about checking Breen when he's hating on melo or getting extra giddy seeing other teams stars go off

The team is only able to gain possession due to the Back tap and yes chandler does it on purpose

Knick fans are such fakkits.

 

[DStyles]

And Brook lopez would still be a floppy faced bytch have fun being in our shadow nicca I heard it gets cold there

What shadown? Yall acting like yall the Lakers or Celtics

One playoff win in 10 years and yall think yall the talk of New York

 

[K-ZOE]

Clyde is being a hater . It's a controlled back tap , how bout Clyde worry about checking Breen when he's hating on melo or getting extra giddy seeing other teams stars go off

No doubt it's controlled. But if you grab a rebound with 1 or 2 hands and gain control then throw it in the backcourt, its a violation. It is what it is. If they keep crediting him for it, I have no problem with it.

Yeah I've only seen Clyde give Breen the mildest of hand slaps only once for his excessive Melo hate. I fukks with Jeff Van Gundy tho cuz on ESPN he called him on that bullshyt and wouldn't let it die either. Breen had to change the subject.

 

[Black Ball]

I've always wondered what they put in the stat sheet when a player gives an alley-oop off the glass.

Is it just an assist OR does it count as a missed shot since they're throwing it at the goal...and does the player that finishes the oop get a rebound as well as the two points?

Statisticians have the discretion to determine intent and will credit it as a lob pass and finish. Just like lob passes aren't credited as airball misses & rebound finishes.

The statistician can also determine intent in the case of an airball, where a player on the same team grabs the ball out of the air and dunks it. That's a rebound & score.

Also true controlled taps should be rebounds. But I think the statistician should be able to make the determination of if it was a lucky tap or batted ball vs. an actual controlled tap.

It's the same as a true controlled touch or tip pass that results in a score. That's an assist. But if a player fumbled, batted, or lost control of the ball into a teammates hands and it results in a score, that's not an assist.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Tyson cheating the system. If you don't initially have and maintain possession of the basketball, it ain't a rebound. Period.

 

[luckyse7enz]

Statisticians have the discretion to determine intent and will credit it as a lob pass and finish. Just like lob passes aren't credited as airball misses & rebound finishes.

The statistician can also determine intent in the case of an airball, where a player on the same team grabs the ball out of the air and dunks it. That's a rebound & score.

How about a situation like this?

 

[GoldenGlove]

Title isn't totally wrong. Rebounding in traffic should be the standard measurement though.

@ dudes getting 2 to 4 rebounds a game off of missed FTs that are usually uncontested.

 

[Black Ball]

Tracy McGrady "The Alley-Oop To Himself" - YouTube

How about a situation like this?

Legalized: passing to yourself - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN

So I asked the NBA for clarification, and they pointed me to two rules -- the one above, and a new one:

A player may not be the first to touch his own pass unless the ball touches his backboard, basket ring or another player.



nikkas should be padding their assist totals on breakaways. That nikka Bron would average a triple double no doubt.

 

[FloorGeneral]

You cannot call what Chandler does as being a "controlled backtap". The only "control" in it (most of the time), is in the fact that he's making sure the players around him don't get the ball. He's not "controlling" it so that it goes directly to one of his teammates. All he's doing is hitting it away from the other player(s) near him trying to get it, and hoping it lands close to one or more of his teammates.

Him (or anyone for that matter) getting credit for a rebound in that situation is ridiculous. The whole "it's only a rebound if his team gets it" is a horseshyt reason also. It makes no sense that Player A (tipper) can knock the ball backwards, Player B (teammate) and Player C (opposing team) are near the ball. Player B gets the ball, and player A gets credit for the rebound, yet Player C gets the ball, and HE gets credit for the rebound. Since it was a "rebound", Player A should get a turnover, and Player C should get a steal.

I know there's some folks on here that don't really like to use their brain, but in what world does that scenario make sense? The person that gains possession of the ball should get the rebound. Tapping =/= possession.


Going a step further...since those count as rebounds, how bout if he backtaps with the clock winding down, his teammate get the ball, and chucks up a 3 and it goes in...does he get an assist for that? No? But why not? He "grabbed the rebound" and "passed it to his teammate" for an "open" shot.

lol, the whole thing is ridiculous.

 

[Black Ball]

You cannot call what Chandler does as being a "controlled backtap". The only "control" in it (most of the time), is in the fact that he's making sure the players around him don't get the ball. He's not "controlling" it so that it goes directly to one of his teammates. All he's doing is hitting it away from the other player(s) near him trying to get it, and hoping it lands close to one or more of his teammates.

Him (or anyone for that matter) getting credit for a rebound in that situation is ridiculous. The whole "it's only a rebound if his team gets it" is a horseshyt reason also. It makes no sense that Player A (tipper) can knock the ball backwards, Player B (teammate) and Player C (opposing team) are near the ball. Player B gets the ball, and player A gets credit for the rebound, yet Player C gets the ball, and HE gets credit for the rebound. Since it was a "rebound", Player A should get a turnover, and Player C should get a steal.

I know there's some folks on here that don't really like to use their brain, but in what world does that scenario make sense? The person that gains possession of the ball should get the rebound. Tapping =/= possession.


Going a step further...since those count as rebounds, how bout if he backtaps with the clock winding down, his teammate get the ball, and chucks up a 3 and it goes in...does he get an assist for that? No? But why not? He "grabbed the rebound" and "passed it to his teammate" for an "open" shot.

lol, the whole thing is ridiculous.

Yeah the NBA should just tell their stat guys to limit rebounds to true controlled taps. Basically a player needs to be making a controlled tap pass to a specific teammate. Then he should also get credit for an assist on a made basket.