NBA Possibly Relocating Memphis & New Orleans

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All I hear is that Vegas is dying and The Strip is empty on weekdays. I think a lot of the Vegas talk has cooled. If the A's actually move there what expendable money is left to support a NBA franchise? A lot of tourist are staying away from Vegas, too expensive now they say. Unless things change, I don't see Vegas as a no brainer anymore. Not even sure if Seattle is still on the table. Weaker economy and the Sonics would have to compete with the Seahawks, NHL's Kraken, U Washington Football which has grown bigger over the years. Maybe I'm wrong tho

You're right about Vegas economy...it WAS a No Brainer to add another franchise here maybe even 2 more :manny:

NOW the Casino CEOs have priced a big majority of the country out of visiting here...28 dollar waters ...50 dollar parking...that type of dumb shyt

The A's might be the last franchise here unless something changes
 

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You're right about Vegas economy...it WAS a No Brainer to add another franchise here maybe even 2 more :manny:

NOW the Casino CEOs have priced a big majority of the country out of visiting here...28 dollar waters ...50 dollar parking...that type of dumb shyt

The A's might be the last franchise here unless something changes
They really trying to ruin travelling in the US. All these places, Vegas, Miami, LA, NY doing the same overcharge nonsense.
 

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You're right about Vegas economy...it WAS a No Brainer to add another franchise here maybe even 2 more :manny:

NOW the Casino CEOs have priced a big majority of the country out of visiting here...28 dollar waters ...50 dollar parking...that type of dumb shyt

The A's might be the last franchise here unless something changes

Thats honestly more modest than i would expect for Vegas

You can run into 50 dollar parking in Chicago smh
 

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Thats honestly more modest than i would expect for Vegas

You can run into 50 dollar parking in Chicago smh
Right...most major cities are like that...SF NY LA

Vegas was founded on being a being a place you can go for relatively cheap and still have a good time ...parking was always free in the history of Las Vegas casinos

Over the last 10 years the Casinos have quadrupled the price of almost everything on tourists here and added all kinds of room taxes ...I can understand why so many people stopped coming here :manny:
 

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No need to relocate the Grizz and the pels to other cities. Memphis especially is a solid market, the people there love their team.

Give Seattle/vegas brand new expansion franchises from scratch and call it a day
Yea it’s unfair to the south. Those are great markets. Memphis just had a bozo leading them the last couple years making the city not look respectable. Most of the markets are in cities with a lot of violence or whatever, so that’s not even a thing. Zion with his bullshyt which has not made the pelicans serious contenders. They both was blessed and cursed at the same time with them fukking up the franchises
 

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When MJ changed the Bobcats back to the Hornets, N.O. and Charlottemade a deal to keep everything that happened in New Orleans with the Pelicans and everything that happened in Charlotte reverted back to the new Charlotte Hornets.

NBA would do the same if/when the Supersonics come back. I'm sure now that OKC has their own history and championships that they wouldn't fight giving back the Sonic history back to Seattle. It will probably be part of the purchase price for the new franchise.
Yes but this also was possible because Charlotte regained a team it lost to take its history back.

If Seattle is in fact the Grizzlies destination, for argument's sake, the Grizzlies history has to be erased to make way for Sonics history being "restored" in Seattle.
 

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I'm not surprised to hear this, though I think Charlotte should be more of a relocation candidate than Memphis. Memphis is a straight up basketball city from prep to pro, that city loves basketball and they love the Grizzlies.

In comparison, the Charlotte Hornets have smaller fanfare in Charlotte compared to the Grizzlies in Memphis. Very niche fanbase, the city overall barely cares about them. The Panthers are immensely popular, abd Charlotte FC is a bigger deal than the Hornets; Hornets are third wheel in a 3-team city.

If the NBA is evaluating teams to relocate it should be the Pelicans and Hornets. Relocating the Grizzlies would be the wrong move, the fanbase there is like how the OKC and SLC support the Jazz and Thunder.
Generally speaking, IMO, the South is the worst region for basketball, especially at a pro level. The culture of basketball is lacking in those areas, as Southerners are not really big basketball fans:yeshrug: .

Collegiate basketball might be different, due to the whole school traditions, etc, but when it comes to pro basketball it is much better overall in the East, West, and maybe the Midwest.
I mean most of the southern cities support their NBA team really well. Its really only the Pelicans and Hornets who are outliers.

The NBA is just looking at its two smallest markets/cities, New Orleans and Memphis. They the smallest cities in the NBA, thats all this is.
Utah, Charlotte, New Orleans, Memphis, Sacramento can all get the fukk out. Contraction not moving cities though
Salt Lake, Memphis, and Sacramento are straight up and down basketball cities all the way around.

Charlotte is a football city. Soccer, golf, and NASCAR are just as or more popular as basketball is there.
All I hear is that Vegas is dying and The Strip is empty on weekdays. I think a lot of the Vegas talk has cooled. If the A's actually move there what expendable money is left to support a NBA franchise? A lot of tourist are staying away from Vegas, too expensive now they say. Unless things change, I don't see Vegas as a no brainer anymore. Not even sure if Seattle is still on the table. Weaker economy and the Sonics would have to compete with the Seahawks, NHL's Kraken, U Washington Football which has grown bigger over the years. Maybe I'm wrong tho
In addition to this, the NBA should have been concerned about oversaturation in Vegas from the start. Adding an NBA team there, would make Vegas a 4-league city; the smallest 4-league city currently is Seattle, which is nearly twice the size of Vegas.

There's no guarantee that Vegas could support a 4th team, just off of size alone it would be a gamble.

Seattle could more easily support a 5th team, as its bigger than both Denver and Minneapolis, both of which have 5 teams.
 

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I'm not surprised to hear this, though I think Charlotte should be more of a relocation candidate than Memphis. Memphis is a straight up basketball city from prep to pro, that city loves basketball and they love the Grizzlies.

In comparison, the Charlotte Hornets have smaller fanfare in Charlotte compared to the Grizzlies in Memphis. Very niche fanbase, the city overall barely cares about them. The Panthers are immensely popular, abd Charlotte FC is a bigger deal than the Hornets; Hornets are third wheel in a 3-team city.

If the NBA is evaluating teams to relocate it should be the Pelicans and Hornets. Relocating the Grizzlies would be the wrong move, the fanbase there is like how the OKC and SLC support the Jazz and Thunder.

I mean most of the southern cities support their NBA team really well. Its really only the Pelicans and Hornets who are outliers.

The NBA is just looking at its two smallest markets/cities, New Orleans and Memphis. They the smallest cities in the NBA, thats all this is.

Salt Lake, Memphis, and Sacramento are straight up and down basketball cities all the way around.

Charlotte is a football city. Soccer, golf, and NASCAR are just as or more popular as basketball is there.

In addition to this, the NBA should have been concerned about oversaturation in Vegas from the start. Adding an NBA team there, would make Vegas a 4-league city; the smallest 4-league city currently is Seattle, which is nearly twice the size of Vegas.

There's no guarantee that Vegas could support a 4th team, just off of size alone it would be a gamble.

Seattle could more easily support a 5th team, as its bigger than both Denver and Minneapolis, both of which have 5 teams.
Yeah I don't care how much a city loves basketball. If a big free agent won't come to your city you shouldn't get a team. That determines your worth not no love of basketball
 

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Yeah I don't care how much a city loves basketball. If a big free agent won't come to your city you shouldn't get a team. That determines your worth not no love of basketball

Yea.

Los angeles will never EVER care about the rams more than St louis did. Even with the recent superbowl. They arent a beloved component of local identity like the lakers and Dodgers are. They had that relationship with st Louis though

And all that is worthless jus considering the jump in value from leaving st louis for los angeles though lol
 

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Yeah I don't care how much a city loves basketball. If a big free agent won't come to your city you shouldn't get a team. That determines your worth not no love of basketball

So you think they should contract the Pacers, Kings, Blazers, Wolves, Thunder, Wizards, Hornets, etc…..

:usure:
 

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Yeah I don't care how much a city loves basketball. If a big free agent won't come to your city you shouldn't get a team. That determines your worth not no love of basketball
Bruh, there are only like 4 big free agent destinations at any given time, and its usually to winning teams. The Lakers and Knicks were worthless to big stars and got turned down by a number of guys when they were perennial losers. Jimmy Butler had to be convinced to go to Golden State last year, they were his last option.

Then you have teams from the Blazers to the Celtics who big free agents NEVER choose, should we just take all the teams?

Your stance would leave the NBA with like 4 teams lmao...
Yea.

Los angeles will never EVER care about the rams more than St louis did. Even with the recent superbowl. They arent a beloved component of local identity like the lakers and Dodgers are. They had that relationship with st Louis though

And all that is worthless jus considering the jump in value from leaving st louis for los angeles though lol
The Rams have a longer history in Los Angeles than they have in St Louis, the Rams were never even St Louis' team, the Arizona Cardinals are. Football heads like the Rams in LA.

Of course they aren't what the Lakers or Dodgers are 😂 and historically not quite as loved as the Raiders (even though they predate the Raiders in LA), but the Raiders are losing fan share in LA.
 

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Bruh, there are only like 4 big free agent destinations at any given time, and its usually to winning teams. The Lakers and Knicks were worthless to big stars and got turned down by a number of guys when they were perennial losers. Jimmy Butler had to be convinced to go to Golden State last year, they were his last option.

Then you have teams from the Blazers to the Celtics who big free agents NEVER choose, should we just take all the teams?

Your stance would leave the NBA with like 4 teams lmao...

The Rams have a longer history in Los Angeles than they have in St Louis, the Rams were never even St Louis' team, the Arizona Cardinals are. Football heads like the Rams in LA.

Of course they aren't what the Lakers or Dodgers are 😂 and historically not quite as loved as the Raiders (even though they predate the Raiders in LA), but the Raiders are losing fan share in LA.

Then you have teams from the Blazers to the Celtics who big free agents NEVER choose, should we just take all the teams?

Fukk yes. There should be a max of 8 teams all in major markets
 

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Bruh, there are only like 4 big free agent destinations at any given time, and its usually to winning teams. The Lakers and Knicks were worthless to big stars and got turned down by a number of guys when they were perennial losers. Jimmy Butler had to be convinced to go to Golden State last year, they were his last option.

Then you have teams from the Blazers to the Celtics who big free agents NEVER choose, should we just take all the teams?

Your stance would leave the NBA with like 4 teams lmao...

The Rams have a longer history in Los Angeles than they have in St Louis, the Rams were never even St Louis' team, the Arizona Cardinals are. Football heads like the Rams in LA.

Of course they aren't what the Lakers or Dodgers are 😂 and historically not quite as loved as the Raiders (even though they predate the Raiders in LA), but the Raiders are losing fan share in LA.
So you think they should contract the Pacers, Kings, Blazers, Wolves, Thunder, Wizards, Hornets, etc…..

:usure:
Sarcasm brehs
 
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