NBA Screwed up Moving to Brooklyn

[Rev]

if the team was consistently good, the attendance and fans would be there. the merchandise sales would be crazy if they were a true, consistently solid team with a couple young stars.

the case was the same for the Nets when they were in NJ when they were this bad anyway.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

I'm an OG New Jersey Nets fans and I can even admit that they had crappy attendance even in the Kidd peak era. They're probably doing better revenue wise compared to East Rutherford.

I do wish they stayed in Newark but couldn't do anything about it

The Izod/Meadowlands was a horrible location for them. But you did see families
attending those J Kidd/Vince Carter games.

Newark probably had more potential for them than either the Meadowlands or
downtown Brooklyn. There is parking and mass transit at/near the Prudential.

No parking at the Barclays, which means the legacy Nets fans from Long Island and
Jersey are disconnected from the franchise.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

The Izod/Meadowlands was a horrible location for them. But you did see families
attending those J Kidd/Vince Carter games.

Newark probably had more potential for them than either the Meadowlands or
downtown Brooklyn. There is parking and mass transit at/near the Prudential.

No parking at the Barclays, which means the legacy Nets fans from Long Island and
Jersey are disconnected from the franchise.

I agree. Newark would've had great attendance if everyone didn't know they were only staying until Barclays opened. I'm downtown a lot and whenever an event ends, I see a mass amount of people leaving whether it's the Devils, Drake or McDonalds Gospel Fest so it is a prime location.

They did try to run a shuttle bus from Jersey to Barclays in the first few seasons but I think they dropped it. Apparently Kerry Kittles would ride on it as an ambassador.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

I agree. Newark would've had great attendance if everyone didn't know they were only staying until Barclays opened. I'm downtown a lot and whenever an event ends, I see a mass amount of people leaving whether it's the Devils, Drake or McDonalds Gospel Fest so it is a prime location.

They did try to run a shuttle bus from Jersey to Barclays in the first few seasons but I think they dropped it. Apparently Kerry Kittles would ride on it as an ambassador.

The Devils are doing better attendance in Newark than they did at the Meadowlands.

The Nets could have done well too since the diverse demographics and economics are
more in their favor in Essex County.

There also is a black family high-income "belt" that runs through Montclair, South Orange,
Maplewood and West Orange that could have been marketed to.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

The Devils are doing better attendance in Newark than they did at the Meadowlands.

The Nets could have done well too since the diverse demographics and economics are
more in their favor in Essex County.

There also is a black family high-income "belt" that runs through Montclair, South Orange,
Maplewood and West Orange that could have been marketed to.

They could probably get some black families from Bloomfield and the good parts of EO too.

 

[tremonthustler1]

I agree. Newark would've had great attendance if everyone didn't know they were only staying until Barclays opened. I'm downtown a lot and whenever an event ends, I see a mass amount of people leaving whether it's the Devils, Drake or McDonalds Gospel Fest so it is a prime location.

They did try to run a shuttle bus from Jersey to Barclays in the first few seasons but I think they dropped it. Apparently Kerry Kittles would ride on it as an ambassador.

The problem is the players hated the Rock. It's not really a basketball venue.

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

The problem is the players hated the Rock. It's not really a basketball venue.

The Nets made the decision to leave NJ for Brooklyn before The Rock was built.

The former owners of the Devils built The Rock in Newark. They used to own the Nets too, but sold them
to the real estate developer Bruce Ratner, who moved them to the BK to grow his portfolio.

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

Hipsters' parents got money but hipsters don't like basketball. I bet if there was a club soccer game going on there it would be packed.
Plus BK got the woat team I can't name one person that Boston trade was foolish

 

[stepbackj34spud]

This shyt here

Guess we're ingnoring the first 3 seasons in Brooklyn when we averaged 17,000 a game and were middle of the pack attendance-wise. When the team was competitive and in the playoffs people came and that building was loud for big games.

When we're trying to rebuild the mess we got left in, people are not coming. And yet we're still not dead last in attendance. Bucks, Nuggets, and T-Wolves have worse #s. So all you've proven here is that shytty teams don't draw fans like the good ones. What a shocker.

No, we're not gonna "Take over NY" like those dumb campaigns they ran. The Knicks are always NY's team, just like the Giants, Yankees, and Rangers. NY sports is made up of Big Bro-Little Bro, this is just another example of it.

The first 3 years proved a competitive team will draw interest. Not Knicks level interest, but interest that makes Brooklyn more than viable.

I was in there heavy the first year, and was fortunate to be in the D'usse Suite (Saved for the "influencers" and trendsetters, whatever bullshyt industry term they have for ppl in the industry). The location wasn't the problem, but the fact that it's the nets. Jersey didn't rock with them, you think BK will?

I'm rooting for Isaiah Whitehead and Chris McCullough, both are great kids from the Tri-State area.

Where do you guys get this outrageous numbers from?

I take it that you arent from NYC or Brooklyn for that matter. There are many different things to do in Brooklyn alone. Going to watch a sub-par team isn't interesting enough for people with a billion other options.

They win, people will show up. Period.

NYC likes winners which makes it the greatest city in the world. Nobody has time to support losers because "that's all there is to do".

What's is with all the dumb shyt im reading? Why are non ny/Brooklyn making dumb ass statements? The year the BK Nets had Pierce and KG, the arena was packed every night. Now they suck so of course attendance is low. Once they get a good team again, nikkas will be right back in those seats.

 

[K-Apps]

The problem is the players hated the Rock. It's not really a basketball venue.

I know D-Will hated it, he was the one really vocal about it. I know the complaints from the media was that it was cold and environment wasn't great considering they were lame duck status

 

[K-Apps]

The Nets made the decision to leave NJ for Brooklyn before The Rock was built.

The former owners of the Devils built The Rock in Newark. They used to own the Nets too, but sold them
to the real estate developer Bruce Ratner, who moved them to the BK to grow his portfolio.

Actually that's not correct, when the YankeesNets business partnership dissolved, Nets and Devils were sold off to different ownership groups. Jeff Vanderbeek who once owned the Devils, brought the team and built the Prudential Center to suit the Devils as a hockey arena. Bruce Ratner bought the Nets to move the Nets to Brooklyn, originally they were gonna move in 2006, but heavy opposition from local leaders and economy put the Nets in a unknown fate till Prok bought majority stake and investment to complete Barclays Center.

 

[The War Report]

This right here. Hard to establish a fanbase when the team has no identity or marketable young stars to build around.

Someone from out west thinking he knows the demographic of a place he's never been . Let's keep in mind the OP is the same guy who called Canada "overseas"

Truly one of the WOATs. We need to petition @cook to change his username to Uneducatedbrotherfromthebay

 

[Sauce Dab]

I'm still at how the Miami Heat made that game in Brooklyn a home game. They were literally cheering for the Heat in their own arena

Nets on the bench sitting their like

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

Actually that's not correct, when the YankeesNets business partnership dissolved, Nets and Devils were sold off to different ownership groups. Jeff Vanderbeek who once owned the Devils, brought the team and built the Prudential Center to suit the Devils as a hockey arena. Bruce Ratner bought the Nets to move the Nets to Brooklyn, originally they were gonna move in 2006, but heavy opposition from local leaders and economy put the Nets in a unknown fate till Prok bought majority stake and investment to complete Barclays Center.

When the YankeesNets partnership broke up, Raymond Chambers, Lewis Katz and their partners sold the
team to Ratner, who wanted to expand his downtown Brooklyn Metrotech development to Atlantic and Flatbush
Avenues, by building a sports arena.

Katz and Chambers were behind the YES Network launching.

Before the breakup, the plan had previously been to move both the Devils and Nets to Newark, which is Chambers' home base.

Chambers later became partners with Jeff Vanderbeek. Vanderbeek, then down the road, bought out Chambers,
until he sold the Devils to Josh Harris and David Blitzer, the current owners.

 

[K-Apps]

When the YankeesNets partnership broke up, Raymond Chambers, Lewis Katz and their partners sold the
team to Ratner, who wanted to expand his downtown Brooklyn Metrotech development to Atlantic and Flatbush
Avenues, by building a sports arena.

Katz and Chambers were behind the YES Network launching.

Before the breakup, the plan had previously been to move both the Devils and Nets to Newark, which is Chambers' home base.

Chambers later became partners with Jeff Vanderbeek. Vanderbeek, then down the road, bought out Chambers,
until he sold the Devils to Josh Harris and David Blitzer, the current owners.

Thanks to filling the blanks on my last post, really reading about how YankeesNets partnership and ultimately breaking up leading to Brooklyn Nets, YES Network, and the Prudential Center is really fascinating, should be a 30 for 30 at some point.