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Wiggins development at the 2 > Every point you made :birdman:

You have the chance to have an elite, superstar level 2 guard, don't squander it for spacing and keeping Martin around. I think Flip would take one of the bigs and leave Russell on the board.

If there's no spacing, Wiggins can't do his job effectively long term unless he'll be drifting around the three point line like he's Danny Green.. Who would he kick out to when he gets double teamed? Hummel? That's why Hezonja is such an awesome plan B
 

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Nope, Wiggins has the chance to be a superstar at the 2, he's the same height as the Wolves PFs :russ:

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They should trade lavine then cause he's not a pg, he's a sg. Wiggins needs to play sf
 

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If there's no spacing, Wiggins can't do his job effectively long term unless he'll be drifting around the three point line like he's Danny Green.. Who would he kick out to when he gets double teamed? Hummel? That's why Hezonja is such an awesome plan B

He wasn't taking that many 3s when he was playing with Shabazz, his immediate development at the 2 is far more important than anything else on your squad right now. If that were my team, I'd trade Martin and just let Bazz play the 3 for the time being. We've seen elite wings develop without 3 point shooting around them before, Wiggins playing the 2 should be all that you're concerned with because in the future him playing there is going to be a matchup nightmare for teams.



Also, Hezonja is truthfully a 2 right now, he'll have to put on some weight to play the 3 in the league.
 

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^these guys staying wasting lottery picks. another lottery pick gone by mid-season would mean they're literally on the same level as the maloofs, if not worse, as they were just trying to get rid of robinson for cap reasons.
Wiggins should play at the 3.

why? he's better at the 2 and we've seen that this season.

he has a size advantage at the 2 and we've seen that this season when he's posted up smaller guards and gone to work, which has improved his post game(something that you don't lose with time or age).

playing at the 2 also doesn't stop him from guarding the best opposing wing player so there's no difference there.

and the best reason of all for him to play at the 2, at least for now, is that he'll get shots that won't be robbed from him every time martin has the ball since that guy has no hesitation when it comes to shooting.


stop with this nonsense that he has to play at the 3 because he's a certain height, he's played better at the 2 and can develop as an amazing 2 guard. if you hadn't noticed, there's sort of a lack of amazing two guards in this league, so why the fukk wouldn't you want a guy like Wiggins that could become a superstar there when there's more talent coming in for the three(and shabazz has played well alongside him there too, so they might not even need another three if that works out).
 

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Wiggins should play at the 3.

He played 22 games at the 2, he averaged 19.1ppg, 4.6rpg, 2.3apg and shot 47%


He played 31 games at the 3, he's averaged 12.4ppg, 4.2rpg, 1.7apg and shot 39%

Why should he play the 3 when he can defend 2s?
 

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Kings shopping Stauskas. Dumb ass Vivek should've just listened to the people in the front office :mjlol:

Is it fair to call them the most dysfunctional team in the league right now?

:smh: Hey guys, lets draft a shooting guard even though we drafted one last year, fukk all those Power Forwards still on the board.

I'd love to see the Bucks go after Stauskas, that's a great fit for him.
 

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He played 22 games at the 2, he averaged 19.1ppg, 4.6rpg, 2.3apg and shot 47%


He played 31 games at the 3, he's averaged 12.4ppg, 4.2rpg, 1.7apg and shot 39%

Why should he play the 3 when he can defend 2s?
Has more to do with who he has been playing with since flip switched rotations , not him at the 2.
 

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only there's absolutely NOTHING for you to base this on since this team hasn't been a playoff team in ELEVEN YEARS! Why must you lose sight of this as of. If something sucks and continues to suck, don't assume greatness is around the corner because you'll look stupid doing it.

and keeping it all the way honest, as I've said all year, the team hasn't learned anything. At all. Luckily for them they'll have 29 games to figure something out, but all they did was show far away they are from anything without their best player.

Is there a market for Young? Yes. Is there a market for Martin? Kinda, but you won't get anything back, so might as well keep him. Is there a market for Pekovic? Absolutely not. Contract too prohibitive and he won't be the same player. He's here til he's medically unable to play.

They are playing and developing the young guys, who they have under cap friendly deals for at least 3 years after this

You bytched about people like shabazz not getting minutes last year, now he is, and you're still complaining

Keeping Kevin Martin because why not? He's an inconsistent injury prone player, get your draft pick, cap relief, and give those minutes to wiggins, shabazz, lavine

The wolves are in by no means the model organization but I feel pretty strongly they've taken some obvious steps forward this season, especially considering the circumstances

They absolutely nailed the Kevin love trade

Even something minor like the mo williams contract and subsequent trade was handled pretty well... Considering their situation with free agency, that's not a bad approach if they can add veterans and then flip them for better long term assets if they aren't close to the playoffs

And keeping Kevin Martin to stop them from drafting Russell is dumb logic
 

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He wasn't taking that many 3s when he was playing with Shabazz, his immediate development at the 2 is far more important than anything else on your squad right now. If that were my team, I'd trade Martin and just let Bazz play the 3 for the time being. We've seen elite wings develop without 3 point shooting around them before, Wiggins playing the 2 should be all that you're concerned with because in the future him playing there is going to be a matchup nightmare for teams.



Also, Hezonja is truthfully a 2 right now, he'll have to put on some weight to play the 3 in the league.

This is the NBA 2015. SOMEBODY has to shoot from outside, and with reasonable. You can't win in spite of it. I don't mind Wiggins at SG, but that means the 3 or the 4 has to be a 3 point threat because Rubio won't shoot it in volume. That won't be Bazz, and that won't be whoever they draft at the 4. Without it, you're daring Rubio to turn into Kyrie from long distance for that to be effective or for Shabazz to change everything about his game.
 

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Has more to do with who he has been playing with since flip switched rotations , not him at the 2.


No, it has everything to do with him playing the 2, even the Mavs announcers were talking about how Monta couldn't shoot over him and when Wiggins posted him up Monta just couldn't contest. He's quick enough to defend 2s but most of them don't have the length to bother his shot.
 
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