Net Neutrality: The War To Destroy the Internet

[ORDER_66]

I think people are short sighted because people (for the most part) really dont fully understand how this will affect internet access for the daily consumer. I dont think that the people who are for keeping net neutrality have given a good explanation. most people need an actual chart and breakdown of what will happen with these rules being changed.

From what I am trying to understand to help breakdown things (people, let me know if I am wrong, and adjust as necessary. We all need to understand this):

So, say you have AT&T (or fill in your own provider), (just throwing in numbers for illustration)
-Flat rate of $50 to access the internet (basic sites)
- +$5.00/month to access busy forums full throttle (The Coli, etc.)
- +$15.00/month to access major streaming sites full throttle (YouTube, WatchESPN, sports streaming, movie streaming, porn, etc.)
- +$10.00/month to access social media sites full throttle (Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, etc)
plus a few other categories that these companies will break down to nickel and dime all of us.

Basically, for those categories, they will be run at slow (3g speed?, AOL dial-up speed?) speed to force people to pay up to use them.

The other thing that I dont understand is: will these companies try to hit us with these fees per device (home laptop, Roku, PlayStation, each phone on plan, etc.) ? My guess is they will def do that to milk more money from us

It's not just the fees I'm worried about it's the blatant censorship that they have access to now to as well... imagine something racial happens and we have a group of white racists out there shooting people...someone posts it online to spread awareness about it in black neighborhoods but it is censored by the ISP's because they are in that group's pocket... Leading to more people being killed. The control of information is TOO DANGEROUS to let these companies go unchecked... why would YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL?!!? HOW fukkING STUPID ARE YOU??? has no one read 1984 or seen the matrix or seen continuum??? WTF kind of people will cape for these companies???

 

[@OffHalsted]

I'm predicting a resurgence of the Bootleg DVD ManI might hop on that hustle

 

[Kaypain]

It's not just the fees I'm worried about it's the blatant censorship that they have access to now to as well... imagine something racial happens and we have a group of white racists out there shooting people...someone posts it online to spread awareness about it in black neighborhoods but it is censored by the ISP's because they are in that group's pocket... Leading to more people being killed. The control of information is TOO DANGEROUS to let these companies go unchecked... why would YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL?!!? HOW fukkING STUPID ARE YOU??? has no one read 1984 or seen the matrix or seen continuum??? WTF kind of people will cape for these companies???

We all gonna die anyways my brother

These devilish cacs are gonna destroy the world and only the mother land will survive.

See you at the crossroads bro

 

[Maddmike]

Can someone explain to me what was being done before net neutrality rules to prevent isp from doing this?!

I’ve asked the question several times and no one has offered an answer.

The FCC would fine the shyt out of ISPs for blocking content. ATT tried this back in 2005 and the FCC stopped it. But I wasn't law. They just fined people. Obama made it law in 15....Basically, White people are just mad because Obama did it. The difference is now I bet the FCC wont issue fines for bad practices..

 

[GetInTheTruck]

This is shamefully dishonest trolling


And this is even more shamefully dishonest trolling

I don't see how it's trolling.

And for those people like myself and others who actually don't care for shyt like porn, online gaming, and social media, is it out of the realm of possibility that we could pay less? Maybe we'll get a better deal. We simply don't know. A lot of the people who have cut cable TV recently did so because they realized they were paying a lump sum for a lot of bloatware channels that they don't watch at all. The people painting doomsday scenarios are the ones trolling imo.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

I don't see how it's trolling.

And for those people like myself and others who actually don't care for shyt like porn, online gaming, and social media, is it out of the realm of possibility that we could pay less? Maybe we'll get a better deal. We simply don't know. A lot of the people who have cut cable TV recently did so because they realized they were paying a lump sum for a lot of bloatware channels that they don't watch at all. The people painting doomsday scenarios are the ones trolling imo.

You’ll be paying more money to get fewer sites that run slower with some content being blocked entirely based on the political leanings of the provider, with the intention of that being to make it harder to know anything unsavory about right wing politicians. That’s the purpose of republican appointees who are former isp employees looking to privatize the internet. Corporate profits and to bury information about themselves that was previously easy to access.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

BULLshyt.... this is about control plain and simple I'm not paying NOTHING FOR MY INTERNET ACCESS... mistake number 1.

This is not a FREE market this is called a fukking MONOPOLY!!!! they lobbying senators and govenors limiting their access to the internet using their own service not across multiple states... ask about COMCAST. next they now have access in which sites get service, nothing about this is going to be equal... most business startups use the internet what happens when you can't pay those extra fees anymore, or they don't like your youtube video!!!

YOU ARE NOT SEEING THE BIGGER PICTURE!!!

My OWN business use the internet to generate profit, gain users, focus advertising... now just imagine what more fees I'm gonna have to pay just get my stuff off the ground or imagine if they start blacking out websites or erasing them completely from the net!!! like I said YOU are not seeing the bigger picture. they are getting CONTROL of what we see, and hear... this aint about this fukking bullshyt free market bullshyt you keep talking about this is them solidifying their monopoly!!!! DON'T YOU GET IT... even websites like the coli could be erased from existance or censored or TAXED... but hey FREE MARKET Right?!

You dumbass have no idea how far these fukking a$$holes are willing to go to control us...

WAKE THE fukk UP!!!!

You keep saying imagine...you don't even know what's going to happen but you want to speak so matter-of-factly. Why you worried about control now all of a sudden? They been controlled everything, they was just letting you eat good. But here's the thing - it ain't your kitchen. It was never your kitchen. You aren't the first businessman being forced to adapt to shifting realities, and you certainly won't be the last.

Somebody said something about the bigger picture, the bigger picture that we are dealing with right now is the fact that the internet is a cess-pool. We just had an ex-facebook exec come out and admit that this "everyone online and connected, all of the time, no restrictions" paradigm an entire generation grew up with has destroyed society. Sometimes you need to reign in the beast. I'm sorry but I'm just not down with the hysteria.

 

[GetInTheTruck]

You’ll be paying more money to get fewer sites that run slower with some content being blocked entirely based on the political leanings of the provider, with the intention of that being to make it harder to know anything unsavory about right wing politicians. That’s the purpose of republican appointees who are former isp employees looking to privatize the internet. Corporate profits and to bury information about themselves that was previously easy to access.

I'm sorry fam but this just sounds like partisan scare mongering. I don't look at profits in this evil way you do. Profits are the reason why you are able to log on right now, nobody is going to operate at a loss just so you can come and dap people up on the coli, net neutrality or not.

 

[charknicks]

It's not just the fees I'm worried about it's the blatant censorship that they have access to now to as well... imagine something racial happens and we have a group of white racists out there shooting people...someone posts it online to spread awareness about it in black neighborhoods but it is censored by the ISP's because they are in that group's pocket... Leading to more people being killed. The control of information is TOO DANGEROUS to let these companies go unchecked... why would YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL?!!? HOW fukkING STUPID ARE YOU??? has no one read 1984 or seen the matrix or seen continuum??? WTF kind of people will cape for these companies???

Um, how bout you calm the f*ck down. I am not caping for companies at all. I am trying to help explain what will happen if this goes through so that people are imformed and can do what they can to help stop this. I dont want this to happen either. Of course they will have people/lobbyists/ companies in their pockets.

You, you need to see someone about that anger, fam. Is someone coming after you or something?

 

[ORDER_66]

Um, how bout you calm the f*ck down. I am not caping for companies at all. I am trying to help explain what will happen if this goes through so that people are imformed and can do what they can to help stop this. I dont want this to happen either. Of course they will have people/lobbyists/ companies in their pockets.

You, you need to see someone about that anger, fam. Is someone coming after you or something?

I'm not angry but I don't react well to companies who work behind the scenes to control the public... This is so blatant.

Who the fukk is You B???

 

[ORDER_66]

You keep saying imagine...you don't even know what's going to happen but you want to speak so matter-of-factly. Why you worried about control now all of a sudden? They been controlled everything, they was just letting you eat good. But here's the thing - it ain't your kitchen. It was never your kitchen. You aren't the first businessman being forced to adapt to shifting realities, and you certainly won't be the last.

Somebody said something about the bigger picture, the bigger picture that we are dealing with right now is the fact that the internet is a cess-pool. We just had an ex-facebook exec come out and admit that this "everyone online and connected, all of the time, no restrictions" paradigm an entire generation grew up with has destroyed society. Sometimes you need to reign in the beast. I'm sorry but I'm just not down with the hysteria.

They are going to control the entire internet how can you not see what's about to happen!!!!???

People been trying to warn you fukking lax idiots about them wanting to control us and control the flow of information for ages.... but you too hardheaded to understand then when shyt hits the fan and they start basically fukking up the net on some gestapo shyt like the chinese do in their censorship then you'll be like It's just the free market.

Meanwhile the rest of america is doomed... but hey you don't believe in hysteria... Dumbass...

 

[GetInTheTruck]

They are going to control the entire internet how can you not see what's about to happen!!!!???

People been trying to warn you fukking lax idiots about them wanting to control us and control the flow of information for ages.... but you too hardheaded to understand then when shyt hits the fan and they start basically fukking up the net on some gestapo shyt like the chinese do in their censorship then you'll be like It's just the free market.

Meanwhile the rest of america is doomed... but hey you don't believe in hysteria... Dumbass...

You're not being coherent, all you're doing is ranting and raving. You aren't presenting a case.

 

[ORDER_66]

You're not being coherent, all you're doing is ranting and raving. You aren't presenting a case.

I'm done with your dumbass... Presenting a case. we're not in court..

FOH dumbass...

They've been working behind the scenes trying to do this for years ever since the internet got massively powerful and now the keys bout to fall right in their hands. and dumbasses like you just gonna give them that CONTROL i'm done trying to explain how dangerous this is for all of us as an american using the internet unfiltered...

ASK ANYONE WHY WOULD YOU GIVE THEM THE CONTROL?!!?! :CAMBY: WILL SOMEONE EXPLAIN IT TO THIS DUDE HE'S SO fukkING DENSE...



be ready america...

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

It's not just the fees I'm worried about it's the blatant censorship that they have access to now to as well... imagine something racial happens and we have a group of white racists out there shooting people...someone posts it online to spread awareness about it in black neighborhoods but it is censored by the ISP's because they are in that group's pocket... Leading to more people being killed. The control of information is TOO DANGEROUS to let these companies go unchecked... why would YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE THIS MUCH CONTROL?!!? HOW fukkING STUPID ARE YOU??? has no one read 1984 or seen the matrix or seen continuum??? WTF kind of people will cape for these companies???

It’s the modern equivalent of a book burning. Between this and the tax bill it’s designed to create a permanent underclass that’s entirely uneducated and can’t access the tools to escape poverty and maybe even drive some people on the way out back into poverty in the process. The fact that someone would not realize the problem with 5 people not elected by the public voting on something that affects everyone in a nation of 300 million+ is disingenuous at best and shameless trolling at worst. The Alabama senate race saw it get out late in the race that the republican candidate was opposed to every amendment after 10, which meant he’s opposed to women’s rights to vote and even worse, that he’s pro slavery. This information certainly swung voters away from him. Imagine if that information were blocked by providers since they want him in the senate. On top of all that, nearly half the people in this country live paycheck to paycheck. Most can’t afford any more bills and have to cut corners in some way to make ends meet as is. This would compound the problem exponentially.

 

[el_oh_el]

Yes I do, and I don't believe that those things are going to be hampered to a significant degree I think it's largely hysteria. But on the other hand I do believe that most of the outrage regarding this issue is coming from people who are addicted to social media, binge watching shyt on netflix, hulu, etc; pirating content via torrenting, ie; shyt which pretty much rules all internet activity today. Don't kid yourself otherwise.

But even conceding that, ISP's are not charities, they are businesses providing a service. If they say you gotta pay more, that's that. Don't like it? Don't patronize their business. Take your ball and go home. That's just the reality of the situation.

You might be kinda slow breh. The game is literally rigged, but you state we should just shut up and cut the internet service. Hustling backwards
Never mind the fact that these ISPs have received govt handouts many times
Also nevermind the fact that they are SUPER profitable yet still want more, and will get laws passed to do so.
No, we not just gonna shut up and do nothing.