New NBA CBA bans jet skis, hover boards, guns etc

[Mr. McDowell]

Basically, the gun thing is there will be no Plaxico Burress situation, where you are stupid enough to go to a club strapped, shoot yourself and then expect for your contract not to be voided. They can't prohibit someone from legally having a gun in their home. That's ridiculous.

Let's not forget, we had an idiot like Gilbert Arenas actually bring his GUNS to an NBA locker room. Jay Williams and Monta Ellis get horrifically injured on Mopeds, two NFL players blow their hands up with fireworks. Give young people money, and they seem prone to do stupid shyt, that could cost them their livelihood.

Because if these same players were getting contracts voided for the foolishness, you'd still be crying foul. When you sign a contract for work, that doesn't give you the right to just do whatever the hell you want with no repercussions.

 

[ALonelyDad]

Chris Kaman about to retire

 

[Malta]

Dude's a fukking retard just gonna be sitting there like trying to talk anything outside of sports / fukkery w/ dude

same dude who says having Obama as president and having Trump as president is the same thing

@Ronnie Lott is a shytty poster in general, he makes a stupid point then argues it to death and anyone that comes along and makes a better argument for his stupid point he'll be like "Yeah, that's what I was saying" but he's too dumb to actually say what it is he's co-signing.

 

[Diddly Drogba]

Liberals really got nikkas brainwashed. the MLB would never go for a gun ban

 

[Ronnie Lott]

They told players in the last CBA that fighting was prohibited but nikkas still got into tussles right? They didn't stand there with their arms by their side getting bludgeoned talking bout the CBA says I can't fight.
This doesn't say they can own guns, it's basically saying don't shoot yourself in the leg or else we will come after your money and we have a legal basis to end your contract (or whatever).

What does this have to do with any constitutional right?

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Weed in Colorado and California.



but yeah, I don't think they can prohibit you from having a license or keeping one in your home, BUT, you have to leave the firearm before you go to any NBA function. Anything besides that, the league will try to void your deal, so long story short, Knicks fans better pray Joakim Noah gets caught strapped up at LQ's.

the Jet Ski thing might as well be renamed the Jose Fernandez rule

Weed isn't a constitution right

 

[Ronnie Lott]

they're not trying to supercede the 2nd amendment

could you bring a gun to work? you'd get fired if you did. Your rights aren't violated there

same way the NBA players could chose to fukk around with firearms but that means they willingly violate the CBA which is a civil thing

I'm talking ownership of a gun

 

[ThaRealness]

Makes sense... if u actually look at the numbers, 90% of off field NBA injuries happen on a trampoline

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Dude's a fukking retard just gonna be sitting there like trying to talk anything outside of sports / fukkery w/ dude

same dude who says having Obama as president and having Trump as president is the same thing

I see you're getting extremely frustrated because you can't deconstruct my argument

Try again bro.

(And I still see weird nikkaz still sneak dappin and are afraid to quote me or @ my name. Cowards

 

[Saiyajin]

I'm talking ownership of a gun

it isnt about ownership of a gun

its prohibited activities, so any activity involving firearms (like hunting) could be a violation of the CBA

 

[PortCityProphet]

What does this have to do with any constitutional right?

I'm trying to tell your dumb ass what the wording means and why it's in there.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

I'm trying to tell your dumb ass what the wording means and why it's in there.

Name calling and you being frustrated doesn't make you right

You're having a hard time at this

 

[Professor Emeritus]

The NBA could never supersede the 2nd amendment

That CBA measure/rule will never pass

Hell naw man. You're trippin. Please tell me a team sports rule that overruled a constitutional right?

You mean like when they violate the players' freedom of speech by saying that they can't criticize the refs, or violate their protection from unreasonable search and seizure when they say they have to submit to drug tests?

This is a very normal part of contracts. You don't have to sign the contract if you don't want to, and the NBA is a private organization, so they can require it if they want.

So pro athletes can't protect themselves

That's assuming you buy into the myth that having a gun "protects" them. Just going by statistics, it's a heck of a lot more likely that something negative will happen due to them packing heat than something good

Bad possibilities:

Get arrested for taking it somewhere they're not supposed to
Have it accidentally fire and hurt themselves
Have it accidentally fire and hurt someone else
Be targeted for theft by someone who wants it
Have a smaller fight escalate into a lethal incident because the gun was pulled
Take their own life with the gun, or have someone close to them do it.


Good possibilities:

Someone threatens their life, and is about to murk them, but gives them time to get out their gun and turn the tables on them without doing anything in response.


There's a reason that national studies show people with guns in their house are 1.5-2 times more likely to be murdered than people without guns and are 3-5 times more likely to have a suicide in their home. And a study in Philly that showed that people carrying guns when they got mugged were more than five times more likely to be killed in the mugging than people unarmed. I'm not afraid of guns - I'm a gun owner myself. But I do it DESPITE the risk, not because I'm under the false impression that it makes me safer.


We've already had athletes murked when they had guns on them, kill themselves due to mental illness, seen incidents escalate due to guns getting pulled, had their guns stolen from them, gotten arrested or otherwise in trouble for having a gun in the wrong place. I've yet to see an athlete make a serious case that he "defended himself" with a gun in a truly life-threatening incident that wouldn't have occurred if he hadn't had the gun in the first place.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

You mean like when they violate the players' freedom of speech by saying that they can't criticize the refs, or violate their protection from unreasonable search and seizure when they say they have to submit to drug tests?

This is a very normal part of contracts. You don't have to sign the contract if you don't want to, and the NBA is a private organization, so they can require it if they want.







That's assuming you buy into the myth that having a gun "protects" them. Just going by statistics, it's a heck of a lot more likely that something negative will happen due to them packing heat than something good

Bad possibilities:

Get arrested for taking it somewhere they're not supposed to
Have it accidentally fire and hurt themselves
Have it accidentally fire and hurt someone else
Be targeted for theft by someone who wants it
Have a smaller fight escalate into a lethal incident because the gun was pulled
Take their own life with the gun, or have someone close to them do it.


Good possibilities:

Someone threatens their life, and is about to murk them, but gives them time to get out their gun and turn the tables on them without doing anything in response.


There's a reason that national studies show people with guns in their house are 1.5-2 times more likely to be murdered than people without guns and are 3-5 times more likely to have a suicide in their home. And a study in Philly that showed that people carrying guns when they got mugged were more than five times more likely to be killed in the mugging than people unarmed. I'm not afraid of guns - I'm a gun owner myself. But I do it DESPITE the risk, not because I'm under the false impression that it makes me safer.


We've already had athletes murked when they had guns on them, kill themselves due to mental illness, seen incidents escalate due to guns getting pulled, had their guns stolen from them, gotten arrested or otherwise in trouble for having a gun in the wrong place. I've yet to see an athlete make a serious case that he "defended himself" with a gun in a truly life-threatening incident that wouldn't have occurred if he hadn't had the gun in the first place.

Players can say whatever the fukk they want

No league can stop them


And yes guns do and can protect people

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Players can say whatever the fukk they want

And they won't get fined if they say the wrong thing?

Tell Donald Sterling he can say whatever he want and the league can't stop him.

No league can stop them

And no league can stop the players from doing whatever they want with a gun. But they can fine them and/or void their contract if they get caught doing it, or whatever else the contract stipulates. That's what everyone is trying to explain to you over and over.

And yes guns do and can protect people

That's a great argument, good job, good effort.